First Cycle Questions.

[Kay338]

Hey guys, new to this forum and just wanted to see a couple of opinions.
So im 20yrs old 180lbs, 6,1ft..around 11%bf... I recenty decided to start my very first cycle, after doing my research this is what i got, i would like to know if this is a good cycle and a good pct.

Weeks 1-4 D-Bol 30mg ed
Weeks 1-10 Test-e 500mg Mon/Thur each week

and 2weeks after my last Test shot.

Pct
Weeks 1-4 Nolvadex 20mg ed
Weeks 1-4 Clomid 100mg ed

Im also going to take something for my liver during dbol cycle, and have extra nolva ready incase gyno starts to show up. And incase it doest, how much nolva would i take during cycle?

Is this a good Cycle should i change anything up? thnx in advance.

[T_Own]

actually looks good. i'm sure other people will comment on it too, but you could probably gain a lot more naturally. 180 is a little small for being 6'1

30mg dbol is a little on the low side, but you'll notice it. you don't need to run nolva during the cycle, you can use an AI like arimidex or aromasin if you want.

for pct, look at 189s thread on it, you don't need that much clomid, 25-50mg works fine

[WARMachine]

^^^ Too much clomid... 25-50mgs is perfect

Decent cycle...

id say 50mgs daily of D-bol

and im sure you mean Test E @ 250mg 2XW on Mon and Thrus right?
and you could bump that cycle to 12wks...

i doubt youll see gyno but you never know, everyone is different...
your BF% is a little high, and youre a lil young, but nothing too terrible..

what the Diet look like?

list a days worth of diet WITH marcos!
you could probably work the BF% down a couple % and put on some more size in only a few months if you dieted and trained correctly you know...

[Kay338]

Alright thnx for the comments.

Ill lower the Clomid to 25mg. I still think ill stick with the 30mg of dbol, kinda worried about liver. Yes sorry i ment 500mgs a week and i would be taking 250mgs mon n thur.
About the BF i did a test at the gym, not very accurate but it came out to be 9%bf and i was told i look around there. 11% was just a guess.. Hmm my diet..I try to eat alot of calories a day, high protein n carbs. I try to eat every 2hours, usually eat a bagel in the morning, and throughout the day i would eat stake or either chicken, usually chicken tho. Alot of subway....

[WARMachine]

Alright thnx for the comments.

Ill lower the Clomid to 25mg. I still think ill stick with the 30mg of dbol, kinda worried about liver. At 30mgs, no need to worry

Yes sorry i ment 500mgs a week and i would be taking 250mgs mon n thur.
About the BF i did a test at the gym, not very accurate but it came out to be 9%bf and i was told i look around there. 11% was just a guess.. Ok no worries your ok for BF

Hmm my diet..I try to eat alot of calories a day, high protein n carbs. I try to eat every 2hours, usually eat a bagel in the morning, and throughout the day i would eat stake or either chicken, usually chicken tho. Alot of subway....

As for the diet!

1) missing healthy fats ( fish oil, nut oils ect)
2) carbs choices aren't good.. Bagels?
3) Subway = garbage
4) You aren't weighing your food
5) 6 smaller meals throughout the day will keep you in a positive nitrogen balance.


See BOLDS



you need to be trolling the diet section

this is my diet... Pinnacle laid it out for me... Ive been on it religiously since May. Keep in mind it gets expensive, but you get what you pay for!

Meal 1:
10 egg whites
80 gram oatmeal (dry weight)
6 fish oil gel caps

Meal 2
6 oz chicken
7.5 oz cooked sweet potato
1 table spoon olive oil

Meal 3
6 oz chicken, turkey or beef
175 grams cooked barley
1 table spoon almond oil


Meal 4
Repeat meal 3 , but replace barley with 175 grams cooked lentils

Meal 5
Repeat meal # 2

Meal 6
6 oz beef or chicken
300 grams strawberries/blueberries
Salad with 1 tablespoon olive oil

[T_Own]

go for more complex carbs (potatoes, sweet potates)
30mg or 50mg, you'll be fine with just 4 weeks. you can get milk thistle to protect your liver if you're worried

[one8nine]

Hey guys, new to this forum and just wanted to see a couple of opinions.
So im 20yrs old 180lbs, 6,1ft..around 11%bf... I recenty decided to start my very first cycle, after doing my research this is what i got, i would like to know if this is a good cycle and a good pct.

Weeks 1-4 D-Bol 30mg ed
Weeks 1-10 Test-e 500mg Mon/Thur each week

and 2weeks after my last Test shot.

Pct
Weeks 1-4 Nolvadex 20mg ed
Weeks 1-4 Clomid 100mg ed

Im also going to take something for my liver during dbol cycle, and have extra nolva ready incase gyno starts to show up. And incase it doest, how much nolva would i take during cycle?

Is this a good Cycle should i change anything up? thnx in advance.

good cycle
nolva should never be used on cycle
that pct sucks

estrogen/progesterone side effect control on cycle
http://forums.steroid.com/showthread.php?t=354229

my pct
http://forums.steroid.com/showthread.php?p=4111013

[WARMachine]

How is that Diet coming Kay?

You learning anything yet?

[Kay338]

As for the diet!

1) missing healthy fats ( fish oil, nut oils ect)
2) carbs choices aren't good.. Bagels?
3) Subway = garbage
4) You aren't weighing your food
5) 6 smaller meals throughout the day will keep you in a positive nitrogen balance.


See BOLDS



you need to be trolling the diet section

this is my diet... Pinnacle laid it out for me... Ive been on it religiously since May. Keep in mind it gets expensive, but you get what you pay for!

Meal 1:
10 egg whites
80 gram oatmeal (dry weight)
6 fish oil gel caps

Meal 2
6 oz chicken
7.5 oz cooked sweet potato
1 table spoon olive oil

Meal 3
6 oz chicken, turkey or beef
175 grams cooked barley
1 table spoon almond oil


Meal 4
Repeat meal 3 , but replace barley with 175 grams cooked lentils

Meal 5
Repeat meal # 2

Meal 6
6 oz beef or chicken
300 grams strawberries/blueberries
Salad with 1 tablespoon olive oil

Everything is doable, exept...The breakfast is sick! 10eggwhites?! thats a box of eggs a day. I Kind of have that meal, i eat grilled chicken about 3times a day. Ill try the meal schedule tommarow see how it works out to be. I know when i start my cycle i want to have a very good diet. How has this diet worked out for you? How much did you gain from may till now?

[hockeyguy]

For PCT why not run a Serm & AI (Nolva & Aromasin/Prov. worst case L-dex) instead of Serm/Serm? Just my 2 cents

[Kay338]

good cycle
nolva should never be used on cycle
that pct sucks

estrogen/progesterone side effect control on cycle
http://forums.steroid.com/showthread.php?t=354229

my pct
http://forums.steroid.com/showthread.php?p=4111013

Hmm after reading...

What if i change my pct to...

Nolva 20mg ed 30days
Proviron 25/50mg ed 30days

[one8nine]

Hmm after reading...

What if i change my pct to...

Nolva 20mg ed 30days
Proviron 25/50mg ed 30days

chose the later of the proviron dosages
and yes good job

and you need letro or arimidex on cycle not nolva

[WARMachine]

Everything is doable, exept...The breakfast is sick! 10eggwhites?! thats a box of eggs a day. Keep in mind those are whites! I can put breakfest down bro!
I Kind of have that meal, i eat grilled chicken about 3times a day. Ill try the meal schedule tommarow see how it works out to be. I know when i start my cycle i want to have a very good diet. How has this diet worked out for you? How much did you gain from may till now?
well i ran a cycle too keep in mind... But ive put on like 25lbs+

Its an awesome diet, i love eatin all the time, and i love the things i eat.. And i gain good size... Its win-win!