VETS/MODS/EXPERIENCED please Help First Cycle - Equipoise - unsure if safe

[thenextcutler]

So I ordered some gear online and received it today. The order was a pre-designed beginnner cycle consisting of EQ, clomid, tamoxifen, provimed, and clenbuterol.

It came in two different packs, from two different countries. The EQ in one and the rest in the other.

package 1) SP laboratories - EQ 10 ml bottle 200mg/ml (two bottles, 20 ml total)

package 2) prov, tamox, clomid, clen.


Package one contained the two bottles, very clear, barely amber liquid. Green plastic caps, labels "appear" legit, then again never heard of SP labs.

Now I knew the packaging would be low key to get past customs, but package two concerns me. All of the contents of package two are in pill form, they are all square and white with markings on them. The clomid and provimed are about the same size and are a bit larger than the tamox and clen, which are also the same size. Now my issues is they are packaged separately sealed in wide strips of folded over masking tape... with an overlap left at the bottom of each portion and labeled to what they are using a pen on the outside of the tape. The pills are simply contained in nothing but masking tape, which was then bound in clear packing tape.
tore one of the clomid's from the corner of the pack, one side engraved "B/P", the other says "50"

Am I safe to run this stuff? If it turns out to do nothing, well that sucks, but if the EQ is legit and the PCT stuff is garbage then I'm up shit creak. And if any Vets would be willing to do an after the fact source check I would appreciate it.

[MuscleScience]

Um EQ is crap in IMO, regardless its not a great first cycle nor is it a good idea to run without test.

[thenextcutler]

Um EQ is crap in IMO, regardless its not a great first cycle nor is it a good idea to run without test.

i've heard all directions on EQ, what I've gathered is that it is slow building gains that are easier than most to keep, and lower side with no estrogen conversion. this is what I'm looking for. not too concerned about gaining lots super fast as I'm not sure I want it widely known im on gear

does it sound legit? the packaging kinda scared me

[MuscleScience]

Post pics with the lab name blanked out. Others on here may know if its legit or not.

[MuscleScience]

BTW what are your stats?

Age
height
weight
training experience
ect

[urbanbody]

Lab is legit but wow not a good first cycle at all, and I agree EQ is waste of time and money.

[thenextcutler]

BTW what are your stats?

Age
height
weight
training experience
ect

22
6'
210lbs, maybe 10%ish? (6 pack)
training since 18, bodybuilding since 19
dieting strictly and max ot training since 20

...Yes I'm young, I get that, I have heard everyone's two cents and made an independant, informed decision at the risk of noones health but my own...

[TITANIUM]

22
6'
210lbs, maybe 10%ish? (6 pack)
training since 18, bodybuilding since 19
dieting strictly and max ot training since 20

...Yes I'm young, I get that, I have heard everyone's two cents and made an independant, informed decision at the risk of noones health but my own...

Your natural stats are good.

I would put the gear on the shelf.

First run really needs to be a test only run.

Your ahead of the curve now @ 10% BF.

Trust me, This is not a good decision.

Wait till your 25, and kick some ass then.

Best

T

[MuscleScience]

22
6'
210lbs, maybe 10%ish? (6 pack)
training since 18, bodybuilding since 19
dieting strictly and max ot training since 20

...Yes I'm young, I get that, I have heard everyone's two cents and made an independant, informed decision at the risk of noones health but my own...

No offense but if you were truly well informed you would have never considered an EQ only first cycle.

[marcus300]

Your 22 yrs old and you shouldnt be using AAS, your HPTA hasnt fully developed yet and you dont want to be risking causing it damage before its fully functional.

You also have enough natural Test floating around to make really great gains if you re-designed your diet.

Eq is a worthless drug anyway and you would build more muscle tissue on your own natural testosterone if you coupled it with a decent diet.

Its not worth using and its not worth risking at your age!

Now you have asked for help from experienced guys, so take what we all have said and do the right thing, dont touch gear till your 24-25yrs old, sort your diet out and use what you have naturally and dont shut down your HPTA at your age.

[thenextcutler]

photo attached, I compared all the tablets to the home BP website and found them to be true in appearance. sketchy packaging, but it all made it through customs... i can see why it was done that way

[thenextcutler]

Your 22 yrs old and you shouldnt be using AAS, your HPTA hasnt fully developed yet and you dont want to be risking causing it damage before its fully functional.

I'll give credit where it is due, to you guys, and won't touch my gear until I read more in depth about HPTA and re-evaluate my decision

[marcus300]

I'll give credit where it is due, to you guys, and won't touch my gear until I read more in depth about HPTA and re-evaluate my decision

Read this http://forums.steroid.com/showthread.php?t=398146

Forget EQ its worthless and you could build more naturally and dont start gear at your age, its reckless.Best of luck

[MuscleScience]

I'll give credit where it is due, to you guys, and won't touch my gear until I read more in depth about HPTA and re-evaluate my decision

Good for you, ask as many questions as you like. Its better to ask than to find out the hard way.

Good Luck to you,

MS.

[thenextcutler]

not that I am sold against EQ, but in theory if I were to not start with a EQ cycle wtf am I supposed to do with these bottles?

[TITANIUM]

See, I can go to bed tonight knowing that you listened and took the advice.

Now, you are truly ahead of the curve, physically and mentally.

Best

T

[TITANIUM]

not that I am sold against EQ, but in theory if I were to not start with a EQ cycle wtf am I supposed to do with these bottles?

It will still be good in 3 years.

No sunlight or heat.

Best

t

[MuscleScience]

not that I am sold against EQ, but in theory if I were to not start with a EQ cycle wtf am I supposed to do with these bottles?

save them for a later cycle.

[decaman40]

are you guys against a EQ only cycle or EQ in general? because i think test and EQ is a great combo (with a kickstart). this has nothing to do with his cycle.

[spooledup]

EQ is a wonderful compound and gave me great gains for my first cycle. I like it much better than test.

You are a little too young though.

[spooledup]

Forget EQ its worthless

Most ignorant post in the whole thread. This ignorant person thinks that because it did nothing for him it will do nothing for everyone.

Many people have documented great success with EQ, including myself.

[decaman40]

ok marcus dont even bother chiming in i read this shit befor in another thread
http://forums.steroid.com/showthread.php?t=404408

[MuscleScience]

ok marcus dont even bother chiming in i read this shit befor in another thread
http://forums.steroid.com/showthread.php?t=404408

I have to agree with Marcus on this one, I am sure EQ has a time and a place in a cycle. But not a first cycle and not on its own. For the money I would buy another compound than EQ.

[decaman40]

eq runns the same $ as deca so ehy its all in the person to make the decition. I tend to retain alot of water (even from creatine) so EQ help build up size and keep it rather than deca where when you come off you lose what you thought was muscle. But NPP is another story, cant wait to try NPP.

[marcus300]

Most ignorant post in the whole thread. This ignorant person thinks that because it did nothing for him it will do nothing for everyone.

Many people have documented great success with EQ, including myself.

Why dont you answer my question what i keep asking you over and over again??

why are there hundreds, no thousands of threads debating or asking "is eq any good"?

Its because its well know to be a useless drug for building muscle tissue, that doesnt just come from me but from all over the boards, so you keep stating its my opinion is completely stupid.

Your an unexpereinced novice who thinks eq gives you gains when in fact its the other compounds withion the cycle your taking, but since ive told you that on another thread, now you claim to have used it on its own! lol

There are far better compounds out there what will give great gains without the risk its going to be a waste of oil,fact.

Your a fool but if you like eq you carry on using it and looking like a woman, now dont destroy another thread like you do everytime eq is mentioned or your life here will be short.

so come on answer the question??? lol

[marcus300]

are you guys against a EQ only cycle or EQ in general? because i think test and EQ is a great combo (with a kickstart). this has nothing to do with his cycle.

Yes, i am saying its worthless and the only reason why a small few state it did build muscle is because they used it within a stack and its the other compound what is producing the gains, the % of people who say it doesnt work or did very little is low, anyone with a brain cell can see that by looking over the boards, its not just my opinion! But if you like it and you think it produces gains, you carry on.

[thenextcutler]

Am I safe to run this stuff? If it turns out to do nothing, well that sucks, but if the EQ is legit and the PCT stuff is garbage then I'm up shit creak. And if any Vets would be willing to do an after the fact source check I would appreciate it.

keeping in mind everything we've already talked about and steps I first need to take... any help with my actual question?

[marcus300]

Your 22 yrs old and you shouldnt be using AAS, your HPTA hasnt fully developed yet and you dont want to be risking causing it damage before its fully functional.

You also have enough natural Test floating around to make really great gains if you re-designed your diet.

Eq is a worthless drug anyway and you would build more muscle tissue on your own natural testosterone if you coupled it with a decent diet.

Its not worth using and its not worth risking at your age!

Now you have asked for help from experienced guys, so take what we all have said and do the right thing, dont touch gear till your 24-25yrs old, sort your diet out and use what you have naturally and dont shut down your HPTA at your age.

Read this http://forums.steroid.com/showthread.php?t=398146

Forget EQ its worthless and you could build more naturally and dont start gear at your age, its reckless.Best of luck

[thenextcutler]

Your 22 yrs old and you shouldnt be using AAS, your HPTA hasnt fully developed yet and you dont want to be risking causing it damage before its fully functional.

You also have enough natural Test floating around to make really great gains if you re-designed your diet.

Eq is a worthless drug anyway and you would build more muscle tissue on your own natural testosterone if you coupled it with a decent diet.

Its not worth using and its not worth risking at your age!

Now you have asked for help from experienced guys, so take what we all have said and do the right thing, dont touch gear till your 24-25yrs old, sort your diet out and use what you have naturally and dont shut down your HPTA at your age.

Read this http://forums.steroid.com/showthread.php?t=398146

Forget EQ its worthless and you could build more naturally and dont start gear at your age, its reckless.Best of luck

ok let me rephrase... IM NOT PLANNING ON USING IT NOW however my original question and the point of this thread was to get some people experienced in mail ordering to give advice on whether or not the gear and packaging seems fishy or legit... to the best of your ability from your keyboard...

[chuckt12345]

sounds legit,, thats just the way the package it

[thenextcutler]

sounds legit,, thats just the way the package it

really? loose pills in some packing tape? they aren't even in those trays that you pop pills out of (like gum)

[chuckt12345]

it just makes it easier to get through customs,, if they were fake the wouldnt give a crap what they send it in

[needle]

EQ is a good drug in my opinion... Just not as a first cycle or by itself ... Run some test bro eq is too advanced for you at this point...

[ryankely]

I run eq with my test because I find I have less tenden/ligament/joint probs.It also pumps my veins up when I'm ripping. Their is a place for eq if used for the right reasons.(over deca because of shutdown and water retain)as for muscle growth,little to none.

[decaman40]

i looked into this and am on other boards, no one says EQ is worth less i also looked at other ones i am not on and nothing showed up. would you mind posting the link?