FAT & Carb!

[wanna_be_big]

Hi Everyone,

Which is better, eating a meal rich in

1- Protein alone? (and get your needed FATs and Carbs in other meals)
2- Protein + FAT?
3- Protein + Carb?
4- Protein + FAT + Carb?

In option 2 & 3; I am not eliminating either the FAT or the Carb, other meals will have them but alone with Protein.

The reason i am asking is because i just read something and i got confused!

Thanks

[Deltasaurus]

Look how things occur in nature.

we see eggs as protein yet they are only 27% protein

now look at alot of grains or milk for example they are very blanced

I think they can be consumed together, it works well for me.
Lately i have been doing Mod Protein High Carb and Low fat. im having the best gains of my life.
Did 8 Pullups with 45 plate
9 dips with two 45 plates and a 25
squated 275 ass to grass all the way down
deadlifted 465
benched 315

this is what works for me

[Twist]

Hi Everyone,

Which is better, eating a meal rich in

1- Protein alone? (and get your needed FATs and Carbs in other meals)
2- Protein + FAT?
3- Protein + Carb?
4- Protein + FAT + Carb?

In option 2 & 3; I am not eliminating either the FAT or the Carb, other meals will have them but alone with Protein.

The reason i am asking is because i just read something and i got confused!

Thanks

Depends on the situation and the person. Holocaust status = carbs + fat + protein, obese = protein + fat.

Look how things occur in nature.

we see eggs as protein yet they are only 27% protein

now look at alot of grains or milk for example they are very blanced

I think they can be consumed together, it works well for me.
Lately i have been doing Mod Protein High Carb and Low fat. im having the best gains of my life.
Did 8 Pullups with 45 plate
9 dips with two 45 plates and a 25
squated 275 ass to grass all the way down
deadlifted 465
benched 315

this is what works for me

bro congrats but you need to bring your squat uppppppp. Your bench is more.

[FireGuy]

There is no right answer, too many variables.

[**TOP**]

There is no right answer, too many variables.

Agreed!!!

[wanna_be_big]

Thanks for your replies but i got confused when i read the below:

Never Combine Carbohydrates and Protein The fact of the matter is, by utilizing this approach, the insulin spike is dramatically minimized and the carbohydrates will do what we want them to do, refill glycogen stores and support healthy thyroid function. When you combine fat and carbohydrates, the fat slows down the bolus entry into the small intestine, reducing transit time while providing an appropriate insulin response. When you combine protein and carbohydrates, it sends insulin skyrocketing and can lead to the last thing you want when dieting, fat storage!

We like to refeed with starchy, nutrient-dense carbohydrates and good fats with no protein every third day depending on caloric intake. This all depends on the bodytype of the individual. In our experience, 85-90% of our clients see great results with this tactic. The reason for this is to get the body in a fat-burning state but not allow it to think it is starving. One problem we have with the low-carbohydrate phase is that a person’s metabolic rate (especially thyroid) functions off of calories and carbohydrates. If you cut out carbohydrates all the way, the body begins to sense a state of starvation. This will slow down the metabolic rate as well as thyroid production and you then hit the wall, or a sticking point. What we like to do is incorporate good carbohydrates with good fats because it slows down digestion and supports healthy insulin output so there is optimal metabolism along with healthy calories and protein to preserve muscle tissue.

What do you think about this?

[Twist]

well you use carbohydrates to drive protein into the muscles... How about just using low gi carbs. and I would like to see some research on this got a link?

also this article contradicts itself and is not very well written.

[FireGuy]

well you use carbohydrates to drive protein into the muscles... How about just using low gi carbs. and I would like to see some research on this got a link?

also this article contradicts itself and is not very well written.

I was thinking the same thing, the article makes it sound as if all forms of carbohydrate have the same effect on insulin levels.

[FallenWyvern]

That article would appeal to a person who wanted to justify eating donuts and French fries.

[yowhatupU]

[QUOTE=Twist;4980287]Depends on the situation and the person. Holocaust status = carbs + fat + protein, obese = protein + fat.



In my opinion: obese=fat + carbohydrates (especially short)
holocaust=zyclon b (sorry that is really distasteful)

A good combo of all three is generally the best.
After workout less fat.
Less carbs as the day goes on.

[BJJ]

There is no right answer, too many variables.

Agreed!!!

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[BJJ]

well you use carbohydrates to drive protein into the muscles... How about just using low gi carbs. and I would like to see some research on this got a link?

also this article contradicts itself and is not very well written.

I was thinking the same thing, the article makes it sound as if all forms of carbohydrate have the same effect on insulin levels.

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[MuscleScience]

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When it comes to nutrition especially, no one has the right answer. If you dont believe me, look at the scientific literature. The studies are all over the place. The only thing that is really known is that getting a balance of the proper macros and essential dietary components is key. All the other stuff about ratios and timing ect. Is more a function of methodology and how a particular persons own unique metabolic demands dictate what specific protocol they succeed with.

[BJJ]

In any case, I gave an answer to the poll since in general the three macro nutrients can be associated.
The deal is to choose the right type among them.

[Turkey]

regardless of bulk or cut, I have found the best results are achieved with the separation of carbs and fat, while maintaining protein as the backbone of every meal

however, there are mnay variables to consider, inc. your current goals, and fitness shape

[OH REALLY]

i like to keep my carbs low and if any i have a low glycemic diet...