My gyno reversal over 8 years with various AS/PCT products

[J-Dogg]

Current Stats:
Age: 29
Weight: 202lbs
Body Fat: Sub 10%
Training Exp: 13 years
Cycle History: Test/Tren/EQ/Tbol/Winny (6-8 cycles)


At 16, a good friend started body building, and I started lifting with him. While I never had, and still have no desire to be a body builder, I certainly wanted to put on weight, and with lean muscle.

He actually did very well with it, but was genetically gifted for growth. He ended up winning the amateur Mr. Teen Michigan beating out 19 year olds, while being 100% natural.

Eventually, after high school, and in college, he was told about this drug "finaplix".

I tried it, 75mgs EOD for 8 weeks. Now me, I've always been a good athlete, but not because of naturally gifted muscle base. I've just always been the opposite of most body builders, coordinated, lol. I am actually a far better endurance athlete than power athlete. I could not run for a year, and get off the couch and run 4-6 miles and maintain a 8/min mile pace.

I did put on some size running the Tren, but about 6 weeks POST cycle, I developed gyno.

After developing this, I actually QUIT lifting because I was so bothered by it. I did not see the point. I could not take my shirt off, so I just didn't work out.

I don't have the genetics to get fat, but I just stuck around 170lbs. At this time in my life, I certainly could not afford an operation to correct the problem.

Eventually, after about 3-4 years, I started training again.

I researched various gyno reversal procedures, write ups and started.

I've seriously used about everything, and most of which had little effect on any gyno.

Since my first cycle, I've ran 5-6 more.

I'm on my 2nd cycle of Test p/Mastp/tbol currently.

I take 40mgs of Nova (20mgs/2x daily) and about 1mg of Letro.

The first time I did this, it seriously helped my gyno reduce in size.

Brief Story:
I broke up with a GF just before I started this cycle the first time. At about 6 weeks in, she came over and was shocked when i did not have my shirt on. She did not know anything about my AS use, and she has never cared about what shape I was in. She was with me my entire time living with the gyno. When I came out of the bedroom, the first thing said was "wow look at you!" immediately followed by "you don't even have your man boobies anymore".


After running this, I dabbed into the Tren again. This time with proper products to control prolactin and estrogen. Neither worked, because the gyno came back.

So....I swapped out my Tren for Mast P again. I added the 40mgs of Nova and 1.mg of Letro.

results? gyno is about gone again.

I'm running high dosages too.

1050, mgs of Test P week
1,200mgs of Mast P week
70mgs Tbol/day

Zero problems with any gyno after replacing the tren with mast, and staying shredded.

I'm not a chemist, I'm not a doctor, I'm not going to scientifically prove why this method works (for me) for gyno reversal. Maybe I did it wrong, it was simple basic research and some "guess and check" but this works for me. At some point I'll want to have it cut out, but for now, I'm comfortable shirtless, as it's probably only noticeable by me.

[dezza6969]

Cheers for sharing this bro

[notsureifsrs]

you had no signs of gyno before starting your cycles ?
for how long you took the nova and letro till the gyno is gone?

[J-Dogg]

you had no signs of gyno before starting your cycles ?
for how long you took the nova and letro till the gyno is gone?

Had zero gyno before I started AS use.

I really feel there is a lot of misinformation out there and you honestly just have to take your time and see how your body responds to each compound you use.

Start small dosages, and work up.

I've ran nova as high as 60mgs/day (over 3 dosages) and Nova has been the most effective product thus far for myself.

I'm in my 4th week of running it 20mg/2 times daily right now, and a very small dose of letro and the results are certainly noticeable.

My BF is realy low right now, so normally the gyno would be an issue. While it's still there, even using 1gram of test, I have no sensitivity what so ever. Mast P acts similar to a AI, and you can run it in very high dosages.

The most important thing is stick with it, stay consistent. Results are not going to show up over night.

[SG2009]

Current Stats:
Age: 29
Weight: 202lbs
Body Fat: Sub 10%
Training Exp: 13 years
Cycle History: Test/Tren/EQ/Tbol/Winny (6-8 cycles)


At 16, a good friend started body building, and I started lifting with him. While I never had, and still have no desire to be a body builder, I certainly wanted to put on weight, and with lean muscle.

He actually did very well with it, but was genetically gifted for growth. He ended up winning the amateur Mr. Teen Michigan beating out 19 year olds, while being 100% natural.

Eventually, after high school, and in college, he was told about this drug "finaplix".

I tried it, 75mgs EOD for 8 weeks. Now me, I've always been a good athlete, but not because of naturally gifted muscle base. I've just always been the opposite of most body builders, coordinated, lol. I am actually a far better endurance athlete than power athlete. I could not run for a year, and get off the couch and run 4-6 miles and maintain a 8/min mile pace.

I did put on some size running the Tren, but about 6 weeks POST cycle, I developed gyno.

After developing this, I actually QUIT lifting because I was so bothered by it. I did not see the point. I could not take my shirt off, so I just didn't work out.

I don't have the genetics to get fat, but I just stuck around 170lbs. At this time in my life, I certainly could not afford an operation to correct the problem.

Eventually, after about 3-4 years, I started training again.

I researched various gyno reversal procedures, write ups and started.

I've seriously used about everything, and most of which had little effect on any gyno.

Since my first cycle, I've ran 5-6 more.

I'm on my 2nd cycle of Test p/Mastp/tbol currently.

I take 40mgs of Nova (20mgs/2x daily) and about 1mg of Letro.

The first time I did this, it seriously helped my gyno reduce in size.

Brief Story:
I broke up with a GF just before I started this cycle the first time. At about 6 weeks in, she came over and was shocked when i did not have my shirt on. She did not know anything about my AS use, and she has never cared about what shape I was in. She was with me my entire time living with the gyno. When I came out of the bedroom, the first thing said was "wow look at you!" immediately followed by "you don't even have your man boobies anymore".


After running this, I dabbed into the Tren again. This time with proper products to control prolactin and estrogen. Neither worked, because the gyno came back.

So....I swapped out my Tren for Mast P again. I added the 40mgs of Nova and 1.mg of Letro.

results? gyno is about gone again.

I'm running high dosages too.

1050, mgs of Test P week
1,200mgs of Mast P week
70mgs Tbol/day

Zero problems with any gyno after replacing the tren with mast, and staying shredded.

I'm not a chemist, I'm not a doctor, I'm not going to scientifically prove why this method works (for me) for gyno reversal. Maybe I did it wrong, it was simple basic research and some "guess and check" but this works for me. At some point I'll want to have it cut out, but for now, I'm comfortable shirtless, as it's probably only noticeable by me.

Thanks for sharing your experience. I have considered going natural after 3 super cycles over the last 5 yrs. It seem gyno is inevitable and to go thru the battle of combating does not worth the risks. Better natural. I'm 222Ibs lean and 6'2 ft.


http://forums.steroid.com/showthread.php?t=434694
http://forums.steroid.com/showthread.php?t=435399

[ArmyMan04]

Good post JD, glad to see your Gyno is under control! Congrats!

[J-Dogg]

Thanks for sharing your experience. I have considered going natural after 3 super cycles over the last 5 yrs. It seem gyno is inevitable and to go thru the battle of combating does not worth the risks. Better natural. I'm 222Ibs lean and 6'2 ft.


http://forums.steroid.com/showthread.php?t=434694
http://forums.steroid.com/showthread.php?t=435399

I agree with your analysis here.

PCT drugs we use are not really designed for the purpose we use them for, it just happens that it's an additional perk of them.

I hate to say it, but thankfully for us, there is estrogen related cancers, or we'd all be in D cups.

But you are correct IMO, that if you live a life style consisting of on and off cycling, eventually you are going to run into gyno problems.

[gp170]

were you using research chems or generic pills for both nolva and letro?

[gp170]

also are you taking the letro 1mg ed?

[J-Dogg]

were you using research chems or generic pills for both nolva and letro?

I've used both, and both work well as long as you have reliable sources, whether it's a UG lab or a research chems.

Most research labs are actually more expensive, but I use them out of convince from time to time.

The letro I do dose 1mg ED.

[Times Roman]

I posted my dumb ass question on another thread, but will do so here too.... how do you administer letro.... oral or pin?

[slmcook28]

oral