just got my lab results

[jbow]

Im 29yo male i try very hard to exercise at least 5x a week
And i eat clean food i dont drink or smoke. My test results showed a total testosterone of 158, reference range 241-827ng/dl ....ok my doctor said "oh yea your testosterone is low"
And then she tells me to eat clean and exercise......i tell her oh well thats exactly what I've been doing for the past 10 months now..she says ok keep doing that and come back in 30 days and pay for another test....im i missing something here? or is this normal?

[Metalject]

Im 29yo male i try very hard to exercise at least 5x a week
And i eat clean food i dont drink or smoke. My test results showed a total testosterone of 158, reference range 241-827ng/dl ....ok my doctor said "oh yea your testosterone is low"
And then she tells me to eat clean and exercise......i tell her oh well thats exactly what I've been doing for the past 10 months now..she says ok keep doing that and come back in 30 days and pay for another test....im i missing something here? or is this normal?

Norma, yes. But that's only because most doctors have absolutely no idea what they're doing when it comes to testosterone.

[2Sox]

^^^^^Yep.

Best to go through thorough diagnostic testing to find out the cause. Next step is treatment, of course. But I'd seriously suggest you start looking for a doctor who knows what they are doing regarding TRT.

[OingoBoingo]

Some doctors want a second test to confirm the first.

Others may rely on the initial test to confirm the diagnosis based on symptoms.

Am more curious about what her treatment plan would be. Might want to sort that before going too far with her.

[jbow]

Alright.. so what kind of doctor do i need to be seeing? because my doctor is not helping me.

[OingoBoingo]

Alright.. so what kind of doctor do i need to be seeing? because my doctor is not helping me.

IMO, wanting a second test is not a good reason to kick her to the curb.

What is her treatment plan? Does it include hCG?

[jbow]

You know what now that i think about it i remember her saying "we can fix this naturally with diet" yea.......

[jbow]

She didn't offer any kind of treatment plan.

[OingoBoingo]

Then ask her. And if you're not satisfied with her treatment plan, get a copy of your blood work, and start shopping for a doctor.

But before doing so, it would be a good idea to study the forums for a while, until you have a good idea what kind of treatment you would like. Then you'll know what kind of questions to ask prospective doctors.

The best kind of doctor to see is one who knows what they're doing. The only way to determine that is to interview them. Usually a phone call to their office and speaking with one of their assistants will tell you a lot. But you've got to know what questions to ask.

A GP (if they know what they're doing) would be fine. Endocrinologists and Fertility doctors may have more experience than the average GP, but you must still interview them about their treatment plan.

If you don't sort the treatment plan from the beginning, finding the right doctor could turn out to be an expensive process.

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[2Sox]

Confirming first test results is sound medicine. But waiting 30 days to do it, IMO, is not. Meanwhile, you're the one who is waiting and feeling shitty in the meantime.

You can't cure low T through diet. Period. It helps but it won't "cure" it - because there is no cure. There is only treatment.

Read this so you can be prepared to talk to your next doctor:
"Before you start HRT- what your doctor probably hasn't told you or doesn't know!"

http://forums.steroid.com/hormone-re...physician.html

[OingoBoingo]

Confirming first test results is sound medicine. But waiting 30 days to do it, IMO, is not.

A lot depends on how the patient presents to the doctor. If the patient was over 50 years of age, a doctor might think differently.

But if a patient is only 30 or so, a doctor might want to wait in case the patient was exposed to something that tanked their levels temporarily.

Another way to look at it is how much Testosterone does a male make daily? And how long would it take for levels to raise an appreciable amount?

Read this so you can be prepared to talk to your next doctor:
"Before you start HRT- what your doctor probably hasn't told you or doesn't know!"

http://forums.steroid.com/hormone-re...physician.html

Good links!

[jbow]

Alright I'll read up on the links and im going review past supplements i have taken to see what could have caused my Test to tank like that. Thank guys for the quick response.

[2Sox]

A lot depends on how the patient presents to the doctor. If the patient was over 50 years of age, a doctor might think differently.

But if a patient is only 30 or so, a doctor might want to wait in case the patient was exposed to something that tanked their levels temporarily.

Another way to look at it is how much Testosterone does a male make daily? And how long would it take for levels to raise an appreciable amount?




Good links!

Look again at his original levels. Re-checking immediately, IMO, would be in order - no matter what his age. We have to be realistic; at 156 TT, it's highly unlikely that outside influences and/or lifestyle changes would have much of an impact in "tanking" ANYONE'S levels down that far from a more "normal" range.

[Low Testosterone]

Most doctors will not discuss possible treatment options with a potential patient over the phone; in fact, most will not take a call from such a person. Sure, some will but most will not. Further, no doctor is going to be able to tell you what you need due to a phone conversation. If they do take the call and aren't that busy, they may be able to tell you what types of medications they use in various situations but that's going to generally be the extent of it. Lastly, in most doctors offices, the staff is instructed to screen calls to keep these kinds of callers away from the doctor, those fishing and sales reps are all considered the same level - annoying.

[2Sox]

Most doctors will not discuss possible treatment options with a potential patient over the phone; in fact, most will not take a call from such a person. Sure, some will but most will not. Further, no doctor is going to be able to tell you what you need due to a phone conversation. If they do take the call and aren't that busy, they may be able to tell you what types of medications they use in various situations but that's going to generally be the extent of it. Lastly, in most doctors offices, the staff is instructed to screen calls to keep these kinds of callers away from the doctor, those fishing and sales reps are all considered the same level - annoying.

What post are you replying to?

[Low Testosterone]

What post are you replying to?

A post by OingoBoingo where he spoke about interviewing doctors. I read it and took it as "call them." Reading it again perhaps that's not what he meant, but it's a very common phone call either way.

[Beethoven]

Look again at his original levels. Re-checking immediately, IMO, would be in order - no matter what his age. We have to be realistic; at 156 TT, it's highly unlikely that outside influences and/or lifestyle changes would have much of an impact in "tanking" ANYONE'S levels down that far from a more "normal" range.

I agree. If there are no extenuating circumstances nothing changes by itself in 30 days. I would be asking what type of treatment this Dr is contemplating otherwise you waste the additional 30 days plus the time on you spend on a less than ideal protocol. Find another Dr starting now.

[OingoBoingo]

A post by OingoBoingo where he spoke about interviewing doctors. I read it and took it as "call them." Reading it again perhaps that's not what he meant, but it's a very common phone call either way.

I don't think we should expect doctors to treat us over the phone.

However, I *do* think the office should be able to answer some simple questions; such as,

* Does the doctor treat TRT patients?
* Is hCG part of the standard protocol?
* If not, can it be prescribed in case of testicular atrophy or pain?
* Can an AI be prescribed if needed?

There are others, but these four will tell us so much.

My experience in Silicon Valley is that most doctor's offices are willing to respond to questions such as these.

One won't always receive a "Yes" answer; the response may be couched or non-committal. But that's okay; I can work with that.

As for doctors who balk at or are unable to answer the hCG questions, or who think prospective patients that ask such questions are wasting their time, well, those doctors are better crossed off the list.

I'm not usually one to bash doctors, but it frosts me just a little bit that some would think a license to practice includes a license to waste *my* time and money.

[lovbyts]

Alright I'll read up on the links and im going review past supplements i have taken to see what could have caused my Test to tank like that. Thank guys for the quick response.

You say supplements but do you mean pro hormones? Test boosters? Designer steroid alternatives???

[jbow]

Alright i was looking into past medications and supplements. I was on pain management for 3 years for a motorcycle accident i read that could cause HPTA. Also is it true that muscle
Tech was spiking nitro-tech and cell-tech with steroids!? I was taking that product when i was about 17. But i never taken pro hormones. I tryed test boosters before but not for long.
No more than 30 days. I think it was a bottle of gamma-o.

[Low Testosterone]

I don't think we should expect doctors to treat us over the phone.

However, I *do* think the office should be able to answer some simple questions; such as,

* Does the doctor treat TRT patients?
* Is hCG part of the standard protocol?
* If not, can it be prescribed in case of testicular atrophy or pain?
* Can an AI be prescribed if needed?

There are others, but these four will tell us so much.

My experience in Silicon Valley is that most doctor's offices are willing to respond to questions such as these.

One won't always receive a "Yes" answer; the response may be couched or non-committal. But that's okay; I can work with that.

As for doctors who balk at or are unable to answer the hCG questions, or who think prospective patients that ask such questions are wasting their time, well, those doctors are better crossed off the list.

I'm not usually one to bash doctors, but it frosts me just a little bit that some would think a license to practice includes a license to waste *my* time and money.

I don't think there is anything wrong with those questions.