Test E Cycle log

[BulkCity]

just started week 2 of my cycle,
With the amount of research I've down i feel very comfortable executing this cycle. I would greatly appreciate it if you feel the need to hound me about HCG and my age to not comment at all, Thank you
stats:
Age: 22
Height: 172cm
Weight:75kg
Bf:12-13%
years of training:4-5 years

My current diet i have executed before and had good results,
I feel very comfortable with my style of training and feel like i know my body well and how to listen to what its trying to say

Cycle plan:
Week 1-12 500mg Test E
0.25mg Arimidex EOD

2 weeks after last pin
Pct: Nolva 40/40/20/20

Day 1:
Was still unsure if I was even going to start because of the nerves of pinning myself for the first time was so intense, I read the protocols over and over again and surprisingly my first pin went pretty smooth, Did find it a bit awkward to turn around and pin my glute but still managed

[BulkCity]

Day after first pin:
Could definitely feel that I've pinned myself but no bad pain stopping me from doing any day to day tasks, I do think it was more mental than anything though

[BulkCity]

2 days after first pin and PIP had really settled in, Was even struggling to get in and out of the car and had a little limp, Was applying heat cream which seemed to help a bit, I asked a few people and read some forums and found that it is normal due to a 'virgin muscle' and not to stress about it

[BulkCity]

By the time the day for my next pin came around my PIP had virtually gone but still decided to go with the other glute, went pretty smoothly, was still a bit nervous and shaky before hand but overall went well.

[Back In Black]

You might not want 'hounding' about things that aren't right but your PCT is insufficient too.

Tell us why no HCG or clomid at all?

Can you post a pic of your starting point?

[BulkCity]

2 days after 3rd Pin and PIP is much better, Convinces me it was due to being a 'virgin muscle' or maybe just becoming a bit more skilled and injecting procedures,
Gym session last night did feel very good, Was strong and felt very focused, Im sure it is placebo though, it is test enanthate and I've only done 3 pins

[BulkCity]

Without getting into any major arguments about it i trust the sources that tell me ill be fine with no HCG for my first cycle of just test and that nova will be very sufficient for PCT
I do understand a lot of people think differently and i respect that, so i ask for the same

[Back In Black]

Trust them not us.

Ok mate, good luck.

[BulkCity]

thanks mate
Feel free to still comment

[Euroholic]

Trust them not us.

Ok mate, good luck.

Any business would love a buyer who blatantly believes their marketing like the op does!!!! Haha

[Back In Black]

thanks mate Feel free to still comment

I'm not going to tell you what you want to hear so I won't make any further comments other than again request you post a pic and maybe ask why you only gained 8lb in the time since you joined?

[Mr.BB]

Wrong place to post a log, this is Q&A section and seems you know it all lol

Might wanna read what happened to other youngs that knew everything: http://forums.steroid.com/anabolic-s...%2A%2A%2A.html

Congratz on 1kg gains per year while having the highest natural testosterone of your life.

[BulkCity]

Not sure what's triggered all the hate, but judging someone on their progress of the weight they've put on without knowing what their conditioning was before they started shows their mindset, clearly a waste of time starting a thread on this forum.

[Back In Black]

Well, you are the same bodyfat as the day you joined and 3cm taller. And only 4kgs heavier. So tell us what the difference is in your condition?

And post a pic buddy.

[NACH3]

Not sure what's triggered all the hate, but judging someone on their progress of the weight they've put on without knowing what their conditioning was before they started shows their mindset, clearly a waste of time starting a thread on this forum.

It's not hate - we were merely trying to help - but it seems w/no hcg or clomid - you'll have a much harder time recovering - not to mention your testes will not be responding at all w/out HCG(which mimicks your LH production to at least give you functionality of your testes while and aid in a better recovery - & your pct is not up to par(as BIB stated)

Post a pic!

[thisAngelBites]

Not sure what's triggered all the hate,

Maybe you should ask yourself why you started this thread? Are you just looking for a cheering audience? We've seen lots of successful cycles by people who know a lot about what they are doing. We see a lot of cycles by young people and people who don't know what they're doing, and people try to help and educate, which is what you are calling "hate". Maybe it's just that you don't like their opinions.

If you don't want help, that's cool, but I don't think you're going to find any cheerleaders amongst the people here, and especially not for a cycle like this.

[BulkCity]

The reason I started this was I thought it would be beneficial for myself to keep a log and write down stuff that I notice,
I also remember coming across something very similar a while ago which i found interesting and very helpful, so hopefully it will be to others too,
To Back in black, When i first started training i was 65kg, i ate anything i pretty much felt like so my weight did jump up to 71kg but was certainly not 12-13%, I would've been exaggerating like most 18 year olds do
I do want help, especially with PCT and certain other things that i come across like PIP, The sources where i get my information from are from close people who are very experienced and trusted to me and not my gear source. You cannot blame me for listening to them,
Im certainly not looking for cheerleaders, Honestly i couldn't care less what other people think, just their experience and knowledge that have to share. Maybe we all got off on the wrong start, I'm not looking for clashes or insults, just what other knowledgeable and experienced people have to say.

[BulkCity]

That is me start of week 1 ^^

[Mr. Small]

Don't forget the Clomid in your PCT

[redz]

Never trust someone selling gear to have your best interest at heart.

[BulkCity]

lol as i said redz, The sources from where my info comes from are trusted close people to me and are NOT my gear source

[BulkCity]

Had 4th pin 2 days ago,
Probaly best pin so far, Have Zero PIP could not believe it
starting to fill out a little but is probably from the surplus calories and have been training hard the past 2 weeks
About to enter week 3 next week, hopefully start noticing some effects of the test

[Back In Black]

Had 4th pin 2 days ago,
Probaly best pin so far, Have Zero PIP could not believe it
starting to fill out a little but is probably from the surplus calories and have been training hard the past 2 weeks
About to enter week 3 next week, hopefully start noticing some effects of the test

Imagine if you are lots and trained hard before your cycle, you'd still be getting the same results so far without the risks you are taking. Don't get me wrong it's not just you but it's more important, IMO, to train hard and diet better off cycle rather than on.

[Back In Black]

lol as i said redz, The sources from where my info comes from are trusted close people to me and are NOT my gear source

I probably wouldn't trust them with cycle advice though if it's their advice you are following.

[BulkCity]

That probably came across the wrong way,
I've always trained hard don't get me wrong Im content with the progress i made naturally.
You wouldn't trust people close to you with over 20years cycle experience? like I've said twice now, they are NOT my gear source

[Back In Black]

I wouldn't trust most people who cycled 20 years ago. They tend not to move with the times. But if you want to trust those guys rather than the forward thinking folk here who supply quality evidence to use HCG and 2 SERMs in PCT then that is, of course, your prerogative.

[ab037]

It comes down to why would you want to only do the minimum if that?
Old school thought was no hcg and 1 serm.
Hcg provides more than just aid in recovery. And what is the harm in running it? As well as adding another serm to pct that works in synergy with the one you plan to take.
You should seek all information from multiple sources and not rely solely on one source (old school or not) to make an informed decision.