My first Test/tren cycle. Need advice please

[Random guy7]

So Iv decided to try my first cycle. A friend of mine was able to get me test and tren. Being new, id like as much advice as possible from experience. Mainly need to know what else I need beside the test/tren and any advice on dosages would be nice. Iv done research but there are so many different suggestions I'd like to hear it directly from someone who has experience. don't need anyone telling me not to do it blah blah blah, Iv thought about this for years now. I'm 25 years old if that matters with experience dieting and lifting. Thanks in advance!

[wrecks72]

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[geezuschrist]

Good luck finding your balls or getting a hard on after your "first" cycle

[MuscleScience]

So Iv decided to try my first cycle. A friend of mine was able to get me test and tren. Being new, id like as much advice as possible from experience. Mainly need to know what else I need beside the test/tren and any advice on dosages would be nice. Iv done research but there are so many different suggestions I'd like to hear it directly from someone who has experience. don't need anyone telling me not to do it blah blah blah, Iv thought about this for years now. I'm 25 years old if that matters with experience dieting and lifting. Thanks in advance!

There may be a lot of suggestions but the best one you can listen to is not taking Tren right off the bat. Save that for tr 5th or 6th cycle down the road. First cycles no matter what you take you will blow the fuck up. Adding more and harder drugs will not increase that only make it harder to recover and thus keep your gains. If it were me I would take 500mg of Test for 10-12 weeks have HCG throughout and have clomid and novla for pct and do it the proper way.

[songdog]

Well if you don't have 6 or 7 cycles under your belt you really don't need it beacuse you don't use the most powerful compound before you need to.And it sounds like you don't have a clue on wat you are doing and tren can and will mess you up.So less with your attitude and listen to the advice given here and not 2nd hand from guys at the gym.

[guitarzan]

Come on guys, he said NOT to tell him do not use tren. If y'all gonna give him advice, tell him what he wants to hear, not what's in his best interest!!!!

[Marcus G]

There is a reason why we say don't take tren first time round and belive us it's not because we don't want you to get good results. It's for your well being.

[Full Intensity]

First cycle should be test (400 ish a wk) deca/eq (300 to 400 a week) I now subscribe to the theroy (Seth Feroce) that test should always be twice your deca. and thats it. 10 to 12 weeks. Run adex .25mg eod and hcg every week. Followed by some serious PCT. FYI i have went months without a boner and at one point it took over a year to fully recover. Too much AS use and not enough PCT during and after cycle. Now i go to a doctor who is pulsing me with clomid every 3 days. Studies he says have shown that pulsing it mimics the bodys natural production (kinda like growth) so 50mg E3D. Take it for whats its worth shit changes every day. When i first used it was 300 for the fist day then 200 for 7 days then 100 for 7 then 50 i think. i can't remember exactly u can search that shit but it was 21 days for pct with hcg. anyway stay away from tren for now. If you are going to use tren do it every other day. remember its hard on the body. dont run it more then 4 weeks. you will get night sweats. your heart rate will rise with blood pressure. you endurance will suck, you will get winded. I always get tren cough. no boners. but good gains. although in my experience tren is marginally better then prop everyday at 50 to 100mgs without all the bullshit. but if you're saturated with test already prop might not do much.

[guitarzan]

First cycle should be test (400 ish a wk) deca/eq (300 to 400 a week) I now subscribe to the theroy (Seth Feroce) that test should always be twice your deca. and thats it. 10 to 12 weeks. Run adex .25mg eod and hcg every week. Followed by some serious PCT. FYI i have went months without a boner and at one point it took over a year to fully recover. Too much AS use and not enough PCT during and after cycle. Now i go to a doctor who is pulsing me with clomid every 3 days. Studies he says have shown that pulsing it mimics the bodys natural production (kinda like growth) so 50mg E3D. Take it for whats its worth shit changes every day. When i first used it was 300 for the fist day then 200 for 7 days then 100 for 7 then 50 i think. i can't remember exactly u can search that shit but it was 21 days for pct with hcg. anyway stay away from tren for now. If you are going to use tren do it every other day. remember its hard on the body. dont run it more then 4 weeks. you will get night sweats. your heart rate will rise with blood pressure. you endurance will suck, you will get winded. I always get tren cough. no boners. but good gains. although in my experience tren is marginally better then prop everyday at 50 to 100mgs without all the bullshit. but if you're saturated with test already prop might not do much.

You shouldn't run deca your first cycle. Run tren for 4 weeks? I wouldn't bother with tren if I wasn't gonna run it at least 8 weeks

[Full Intensity]

really! i get the puff your feathers act but this is about him not you remember? 8 wks on tren first time around are you kidding me have you read the profiles section and what tren can do to you. Deca is by far one of the safest injectables you can start with. Dunno what your post has to do with his question but any injectable that is only need once a wk is a great way to start. Not to mention the water retention will help with joint pain for any newb who is increasing their weight on lifts by leaps and bounds for the first time. Get over yourself bud and grow the fuck up

[guitarzan]

"Grow the fuck up" seriously???
I was suggesting run test only on first cycle, guess I should've been more clear. As far as tren, I was speaking of a tren cycle in general, not to the op

[Full Intensity]

im way to old for this lol soo hard to get the meaning of a typed msg and it is often taken the wrong way. My apologies brother

[guitarzan]

No problem, I wasn't clear. I tend to come off the wrong way anyway....

[Bench550]

I'm in the same boat as randomguy being new to the injectables. I have been cycling pro hormones for the past few years. Im looking at deca now would you guys suggest 250mg twice a week? Suffered an injury at a powerlifting meet and had to have my arm reconstructed. I found info that deca will help build bone density....? any in put would be appreciated

[Marcus G]

I'm in the same boat as randomguy being new to the injectables. I have been cycling pro hormones for the past few years. Im looking at deca now would you guys suggest 250mg twice a week? Suffered an injury at a powerlifting meet and had to have my arm reconstructed. I found info that deca will help build bone density....? any in put would be appreciated

You should start a new thread for that, don't want to hijack this one.

[Bench550]

Will do. New to the forum thing