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    Anger is getting worse

    So now I’m 1 month after stopping my cycle and going down to TRT levels. Injecting .35-.4ml of Test E 250mg/mL twice a week. I do it at exactly 3.5 days apart, not Monday and Thursday. Sunday morning and Wednesday night.

    I am very irritable throughout the day. Some on here mentioned an estrogen rebound after coming off a cycle. I stopped taking Arimidex at the same time my cycle stopped. And I was only taking .75mg a week on 800 mg a week.

    On cycle I felt great. No anger issues. No libido increase.

    Now off cycle my libido is higher and so is my anger. It doesn’t make any sense.

    What should I take when coming off cycle to avoid the estrogen rebound? I’m looking for the safest option. Thanks.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Test Monsterone View Post
    So now I’m 1 month after stopping my cycle and going down to TRT levels. Injecting 3.5-4ml of Test E 250mg/mL twice a week. I do it at exactly 3.5 days apart, not Monday and Thursday. Sunday morning and Wednesday night.

    I am very irritable throughout the day. Some on here mentioned an estrogen rebound after coming off a cycle. I stopped taking Arimidex at the same time my cycle stopped. And I was only taking .75mg a week on 800 mg a week.

    On cycle I felt great. No anger issues. No libido increase.

    Now off cycle my libido is higher and so is my anger. It doesn’t make any sense.

    What should I take when coming off cycle to avoid the estrogen rebound? I’m looking for the safest option. Thanks.
    Let me see if I understand your post. You're TRT dose is 4ml of 250mg/ml = 1000mg of Test twice a week = 2000mg/wk of Test? That's a lot of test for TRT. That doesn't make any sense.

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    I meant .35 come on dude.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Test Monsterone View Post
    I meant .35 come on dude.
    Your doing 175 a week. I 2 doses of 87.5 or so mg.

    I felt like shit on that protocol.

    I'm serious, try 50mg EOD.

    You only have a trough of 6mg difference between shots not over 10mg.

    Attachment 175242
    THIS IS 87.5 (.35-.4ML) E3.5D.

    Attachment 175243
    This is 50mg EOD

    As you see frequently dosing small amount in way more stable.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Couchlockd View Post
    Your doing 175 a week. I 2 doses of 87.5 or so mg.

    I felt like shit on that protocol.

    I'm serious, try 50mg EOD.

    You only have a trough of 6mg difference between shots not over 10mg.

    Attachment 175242
    THIS IS 87.5 (.35-.4ML) E3.5D.

    Attachment 175243
    This is 50mg EOD

    As you see frequently dosing small amount in way more stable.
    This is interesting, not trying to derail thread but I have to ask
    I'm running 150mg split into 2 per week fpr 75mg each pin
    You're saying 50mg EOD would be more stable rather than 75mg. What about lowering to three pins a week for 50mgx3 a week? It would be more stable but than you have to pin three times a week
    Where's the link to that site?
    Thanks

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    Quote Originally Posted by EDCG19 View Post
    This is interesting, not trying to derail thread but I have to ask
    I'm running 150mg split into 2 per week fpr 75mg each pin
    You're saying 50mg EOD would be more stable rather than 75mg. What about lowering to three pins a week for 50mgx3 a week? It would be more stable but than you have to pin three times a week
    Where's the link to that site?
    Thanks
    It's an app called steroid calc.

    It's also a website called steroid calc.com

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    Quote Originally Posted by Test Monsterone View Post
    I meant .35 come on dude.
    Actually irritated right at this moment huh

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    Quote Originally Posted by KennyJ View Post
    Actually irritated right at this moment huh
    Yeah man.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Test Monsterone View Post
    Yeah man.
    Seriously I hope you get the dosing on point. I was just messing with ya and didn't mean anything by it. Hormones can be very tricky.

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    Quote Originally Posted by KennyJ View Post
    Seriously I hope you get the dosing on point. I was just messing with ya and didn't mean anything by it. Hormones can be very tricky.
    Oh I didn’t take it in a bad way. Thanks!

    Quote Originally Posted by Couchlockd View Post
    Your doing 175 a week. I 2 doses of 87.5 or so mg.

    I felt like shit on that protocol.

    I'm serious, try 50mg EOD.

    You only have a trough of 6mg difference between shots not over 10mg.

    Attachment 175242
    THIS IS 87.5 (.35-.4ML) E3.5D.

    Attachment 175243
    This is 50mg EOD

    As you see frequently dosing small amount in way more stable.
    Quote Originally Posted by Couchlockd View Post
    Your doing 175 a week. I 2 doses of 87.5 or so mg.

    I felt like shit on that protocol.

    I'm serious, try 50mg EOD.

    You only have a trough of 6mg difference between shots not over 10mg.

    Attachment 175242
    THIS IS 87.5 (.35-.4ML) E3.5D.

    Attachment 175243
    This is 50mg EOD

    As you see frequently dosing small amount in way more stable.
    I’m gonna try this if i don’t start feeling normal after the new year. I’m getting bloodwork soon and will see if my E is out of wack. Although I would prefer to stick with two shots a week. EOD was kind of annoying with prop.
    Thanks for the tip brother.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Test Monsterone View Post
    So now I’m 1 month after stopping my cycle and going down to TRT levels. Injecting .35-.4ml of Test E 250mg/mL twice a week. I do it at exactly 3.5 days apart, not Monday and Thursday. Sunday morning and Wednesday night.

    I am very irritable throughout the day. Some on here mentioned an estrogen rebound after coming off a cycle. I stopped taking Arimidex at the same time my cycle stopped. And I was only taking .75mg a week on 800 mg a week.

    On cycle I felt great. No anger issues. No libido increase.

    Now off cycle my libido is higher and so is my anger. It doesn’t make any sense.

    What should I take when coming off cycle to avoid the estrogen rebound? I’m looking for the safest option. Thanks.
    When you play with hormones, things like this are possible. Drastic fluctuations are typically the culprit. You were on 800mg TEST per wk correct? What MG amount are you using for TRT?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Ashop View Post
    When you play with hormones, things like this are possible. Drastic fluctuations are typically the culprit. You were on 800mg TEST per wk correct? What MG amount are you using for TRT?
    I'm taking between 175 and 200 mg/week.


    Noticing some symptoms since last time I made a similar thread - getting a little more acne and my fingers feel a little stiff/swollen.

    I am also off HCG since ending the cycle - maybe that has some effect. I want to get back on HCG, I think I felt much better before - maybe a placebo, I don't know.

    Not to derail my own thread, but if I do get back on HCG (500 units a week), how low should I drop my testosterone injections to? I understand the boys will begin making testosterone again, so a regular TRT dose on top of that may spill over.

    edit: levels were 470ng/dL before I started steroids/trt.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Test Monsterone View Post
    I'm taking between 175 and 200 mg/week.


    Noticing some symptoms since last time I made a similar thread - getting a little more acne and my fingers feel a little stiff/swollen.

    I am also off HCG since ending the cycle - maybe that has some effect. I want to get back on HCG, I think I felt much better before - maybe a placebo, I don't know.

    Not to derail my own thread, but if I do get back on HCG (500 units a week), how low should I drop my testosterone injections to? I understand the boys will begin making testosterone again, so a regular TRT dose on top of that may spill over.

    edit: levels were 470ng/dL before I started steroids/trt.
    I'm sure you know that HCG will keep your balls from shrinking but I'm not sure how much they will actually work as long as you're still putting test in your body. One of the vets will let you know when they see this

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    The most beautiful thing about steroids is channeling drive and emotion to get the full effect.


    Most people live lives that are soft and slow. They really have no need to channel aggression into productivity. The go through the motions and when they get stressed vent it out through secondary channels such as getting online and stirring shit, playing a shoot em up game, or a hobby etc..

    We need the rage and adrenaline to reap max benefit. Get comfortable with it. Whatever is going on save it for the gym when you turn up the adrenaline and let it loose.

    You will learn to control it and channel it or you are in
    the wrong game. It takes time and some self searching. In my early twenties I had rage far beyond anything AAS ever threw at me. I am very fortunate I stayed one step ahead of the law. Life in general taught me to channel the excess.

    Over time with AAS you will experience highs and lows and be prepared for them. Don't let the juice speak for you. If you learn to store it and save it you will have a valuable tool. Eventually you will progress to a point where you realize that acting out in aggression is silly for the fact that if you lost it people would stand no chance and no one deserves to have a psycho that they stand no chance against bearing down on them for a stupid mistake.

    People are dumb. Road rage has been an issue to the point I would drive with the window down if I had tinted windows. This way some average guy (who I am no better than) wouldnt flip me off. Tbh they were smarter than me many times. They would acess the person they were about to flip off etc before doing so unless they couldnt see me. I, on the other hand would charge down a carload of guys if they gave me a slight reason.

    It is stupidity is what you must tell yourself. We are all only human and we all screw up. I have accidentally cut people off in traffic. I even did it on purpose a few times. Yet when the other guy cuts me off the first instinct is that it was intentional....

    Most likely it wasn't, but even if it was what good is it gonna do if I jerk him out of his window and lift him over my head and slam him on the ground?
    What? I am bigger so I have the right because he made a mistake? Hell no.

    When a powerful person is humble in public and polite in a bad situation, that is true character, and everything this cat wants to be.

    I got upset bad on a butt ton of gear a couple times. One time it was warranted and I choked (lightly) my gf's brother and slapped him.
    He put me in a vehichle with drugs and a gun and did not inform me of that situation he had put me in the drivers seat of. I honestly just wanted to knock some sense into him and prevent him from prison where he would not do well.

    Instead I created a ripple of anger that will effect this christmas. Yes I made my point and I know he will never do it again to anyone, but at what cost?

    The second time I got in an argument that I created over jealousy with my gf. She would never even consider cheating on me and I know thos from the depths of my soul.

    Anger took hold.
    I texted my friend I always do when shit hits the fan and explained. I figured I could calm down like normal. Instead I punched a table and broke it. I used to hit things a lot. This is something I trained myself never to do (long story). When I realized what I had done I felt enraged at myself and got in my suv and left.

    I was hyperventilating and it took over in a way I cant described. I drove around looking for someone to give me a reason to hurt them. I wanted a group. I wanted as many mfers as I could beat to death to so much as smart eye me.

    I got to a gas station (I had stopped at many) and it turned off like a switch. I was fucking exhausted. I knew right then I had startred the entire mess. I let my emptions rule and I am gd lucky I didnt find that group of ignorant ass teenagers of college kids.

    I would be in prison the rest of my life if I had.


    That is a "come to Jesus" moment. So next time catch yourself. Save it as something to think about when you let the animal out at the gym. Its not only gonna save your life it will kill your workouts.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Obs View Post
    The most beautiful thing about steroids is channeling drive and emotion to get the full effect.


    Most people live lives that are soft and slow. They really have no need to channel aggression into productivity. The go through the motions and when they get stressed vent it out through secondary channels such as getting online and stirring shit, playing a shoot em up game, or a hobby etc..

    We need the rage and adrenaline to reap max benefit. Get comfortable with it. Whatever is going on save it for the gym when you turn up the adrenaline and let it loose.

    You will learn to control it and channel it or you are in
    the wrong game. It takes time and some self searching. In my early twenties I had rage far beyond anything AAS ever threw at me. I am very fortunate I stayed one step ahead of the law. Life in general taught me to channel the excess.

    Over time with AAS you will experience highs and lows and be prepared for them. Don't let the juice speak for you. If you learn to store it and save it you will have a valuable tool. Eventually you will progress to a point where you realize that acting out in aggression is silly for the fact that if you lost it people would stand no chance and no one deserves to have a psycho that they stand no chance against bearing down on them for a stupid mistake.

    People are dumb. Road rage has been an issue to the point I would drive with the window down if I had tinted windows. This way some average guy (who I am no better than) wouldnt flip me off. Tbh they were smarter than me many times. They would acess the person they were about to flip off etc before doing so unless they couldnt see me. I, on the other hand would charge down a carload of guys if they gave me a slight reason.

    It is stupidity is what you must tell yourself. We are all only human and we all screw up. I have accidentally cut people off in traffic. I even did it on purpose a few times. Yet when the other guy cuts me off the first instinct is that it was intentional....

    Most likely it wasn't, but even if it was what good is it gonna do if I jerk him out of his window and lift him over my head and slam him on the ground?
    What? I am bigger so I have the right because he made a mistake? Hell no.

    When a powerful person is humble in public and polite in a bad situation, that is true character, and everything this cat wants to be.

    I got upset bad on a butt ton of gear a couple times. One time it was warranted and I choked (lightly) my gf's brother and slapped him.
    He put me in a vehichle with drugs and a gun and did not inform me of that situation he had put me in the drivers seat of. I honestly just wanted to knock some sense into him and prevent him from prison where he would not do well.

    Instead I created a ripple of anger that will effect this christmas. Yes I made my point and I know he will never do it again to anyone, but at what cost?

    The second time I got in an argument that I created over jealousy with my gf. She would never even consider cheating on me and I know thos from the depths of my soul.

    Anger took hold.
    I texted my friend I always do when shit hits the fan and explained. I figured I could calm down like normal. Instead I punched a table and broke it. I used to hit things a lot. This is something I trained myself never to do (long story). When I realized what I had done I felt enraged at myself and got in my suv and left.

    I was hyperventilating and it took over in a way I cant described. I drove around looking for someone to give me a reason to hurt them. I wanted a group. I wanted as many mfers as I could beat to death to so much as smart eye me.

    I got to a gas station (I had stopped at many) and it turned off like a switch. I was fucking exhausted. I knew right then I had startred the entire mess. I let my emptions rule and I am gd lucky I didnt find that group of ignorant ass teenagers of college kids.

    I would be in prison the rest of my life if I had.


    That is a "come to Jesus" moment. So next time catch yourself. Save it as something to think about when you let the animal out at the gym. Its not only gonna save your life it will kill your workouts.
    Wise words man, that’s a thorough ass response. You said pretty much how I feel. For me, I get angry at family and yesterday punched a hole in my wall and had to stop at a gas station to bandage my fist up before going into work. I was pissed all day that the girl that just started working there has a boyfriend. Worse even, she’s not giving me the attention I want. I do feel like I did in my early twenties.

    I also live in a cold state this time of the year, where it’s always gloomy, and I get seasonal depression. So it’s sort of like a fatalist depression mixed with anger. Like wtf am I doing, what’s the point, f_ck everyone, etc.

    As I got older, I too was able to control my actions and not react. Now, though, it’s so intense I just want to destroy things. I will remember your post man and I will think about what you said next time I feel out of control. Thank you.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Test Monsterone View Post
    Wise words man, that’s a thorough ass response. You said pretty much how I feel. For me, I get angry at family and yesterday punched a hole in my wall and had to stop at a gas station to bandage my fist up before going into work. I was pissed all day that the girl that just started working there has a boyfriend. Worse even, she’s not giving me the attention I want. I do feel like I did in my early twenties.

    I also live in a cold state this time of the year, where it’s always gloomy, and I get seasonal depression. So it’s sort of like a fatalist depression mixed with anger. Like wtf am I doing, what’s the point, f_ck everyone, etc.

    As I got older, I too was able to control my actions and not react. Now, though, it’s so intense I just want to destroy things. I will remember your post man and I will think about what you said next time I feel out of control. Thank you.
    Thank you.
    It gets easier.
    Charger69 is cool as a cucumber but he had to reign in his ossues like myself. At leadt now when I know I am on gear and it could be affecting my thought processes I am constantly forcing myself to give people the benefit of the doubt.

    I have to remind myself that I suck just like everyone and that I cant hurt someone like I have before.
    I have a big heart and it doesnt fair well when I bring on more guilt. I actually do care what people think. I cant make everyone like me nor do I want them to. I dont want them to be right when they say I did something bad to them.

    I replacex the same door in my house ten times before my ex wife left, when I came back to cycling. I trained myself to never do that to my gf. No matter how mad I got I would never break things.

    I did good to man!
    I even had her throwing stuff at me and didnt break anything or raise my voice. The disappointment I felt when I punched that table was me failing myself and her in the worst way in my mind because I couldn't go back to where I had been. It was like losing everything and starting over in my mind.

    Take care of yourself.
    You should see how horribly arthritic my right hand is. I will lose most of the use of it someday.

    Gear will also make you sentimental at times. I kinda like that. No girl gets doted on like my gf when I get that way lol

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    Quote Originally Posted by Obs View Post
    Thank you.
    It gets easier.
    Charger69 is cool as a cucumber but he had to reign in his ossues like myself. At leadt now when I know I am on gear and it could be affecting my thought processes I am constantly forcing myself to give people the benefit of the doubt.

    I have to remind myself that I suck just like everyone and that I cant hurt someone like I have before.
    I have a big heart and it doesnt fair well when I bring on more guilt. I actually do care what people think. I cant make everyone like me nor do I want them to. I dont want them to be right when they say I did something bad to them.

    I replacex the same door in my house ten times before my ex wife left, when I came back to cycling. I trained myself to never do that to my gf. No matter how mad I got I would never break things.

    I did good to man!
    I even had her throwing stuff at me and didnt break anything or raise my voice. The disappointment I felt when I punched that table was me failing myself and her in the worst way in my mind because I couldn't go back to where I had been. It was like losing everything and starting over in my mind.

    Take care of yourself.
    You should see how horribly arthritic my right hand is. I will lose most of the use of it someday.

    Gear will also make you sentimental at times. I kinda like that. No girl gets doted on like my gf when I get that way lol
    You know, although there probably is some underlying reason why we/I get like this, probably due to unbalanced hormones - there is nothing like when you can relate with someone. I feel so much better knowing I’m not the only one dealing with shit like this. Even though logically I know I’m not the only one, it feels good to know it’s not just me and if you can control yourself, so can I.

    On the arthritis In the hands part - I have this in my toes. When I was 19 I kicked the crap out of a wooden chair, broke it into pieces. To this day I get pain in my toes, they get stiff, and they crack. I have punched walls (concrete too), trees, my car, people, etc. i don’t have any arthritis signs in my hands yet. I do get pain in my wrists sometimes when benching with dumbbells or doing flys.

    Goes to show that we’re hurting ourselves in the end. It’s weird how as men when we’re hurting we do more damage to ourselves that we later have to deal with, instead of taking care of ourselves.

    I have replaced a door with my ex a few times myself. It all resonates man, it’s kind of funny.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Test Monsterone View Post
    You know, although there probably is some underlying reason why we/I get like this, probably due to unbalanced hormones - there is nothing like when you can relate with someone. I feel so much better knowing I’m not the only one dealing with shit like this. Even though logically I know I’m not the only one, it feels good to know it’s not just me and if you can control yourself, so can I.

    On the arthritis In the hands part - I have this in my toes. When I was 19 I kicked the crap out of a wooden chair, broke it into pieces. To this day I get pain in my toes, they get stiff, and they crack. I have punched walls (concrete too), trees, my car, people, etc. i don’t have any arthritis signs in my hands yet. I do get pain in my wrists sometimes when benching with dumbbells or doing flys.

    Goes to show that we’re hurting ourselves in the end. It’s weird how as men when we’re hurting we do more damage to ourselves that we later have to deal with, instead of taking care of ourselves.

    I have replaced a door with my ex a few times myself. It all resonates man, it’s kind of funny.
    It sucks man.
    Bad I am glad we can relate andit certainly does help.
    Hormonal swing can escalate things quickly for sure in most people I think. I just hate the pain my rage has caused. I hope someday I can be as cool as charger and others and I know I will be.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Obs View Post
    It sucks man.
    Bad I am glad we can relate andit certainly does help.
    Hormonal swing can escalate things quickly for sure in most people I think. I just hate the pain my rage has caused. I hope someday I can be as cool as charger and others and I know I will be.
    You Mellow out as you age. I use to be extremely irritatable and impatient. Over time I just learned to stop taking every damn thing to heart and developed a “meh,” attitude towards things I couldn’t control. I lost several great relationships because of how impatient I was. Now I literally give zero fucks about unimportant or uncontrollable things.

    There was a very helpful book called

    “The Subtle Art of not Giving a Fuck.” By Mark Manson

    that really helped shape my Meh attitude towards most things. I’m typically not a book guy but this was helpful as it showed and gave me permission to not care about meaningless things.
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    Quote Originally Posted by KennyJ View Post
    Actually irritated right at this moment huh
    I was just about to say that ! Haha

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    Quote Originally Posted by Obs View Post
    The most beautiful thing about steroids is channeling drive and emotion to get the full effect.


    Most people live lives that are soft and slow. They really have no need to channel aggression into productivity. The go through the motions and when they get stressed vent it out through secondary channels such as getting online and stirring shit, playing a shoot em up game, or a hobby etc..

    We need the rage and adrenaline to reap max benefit. Get comfortable with it. Whatever is going on save it for the gym when you turn up the adrenaline and let it loose.

    You will learn to control it and channel it or you are in
    the wrong game. It takes time and some self searching. In my early twenties I had rage far beyond anything AAS ever threw at me. I am very fortunate I stayed one step ahead of the law. Life in general taught me to channel the excess.

    Over time with AAS you will experience highs and lows and be prepared for them. Don't let the juice speak for you. If you learn to store it and save it you will have a valuable tool. Eventually you will progress to a point where you realize that acting out in aggression is silly for the fact that if you lost it people would stand no chance and no one deserves to have a psycho that they stand no chance against bearing down on them for a stupid mistake.

    People are dumb. Road rage has been an issue to the point I would drive with the window down if I had tinted windows. This way some average guy (who I am no better than) wouldnt flip me off. Tbh they were smarter than me many times. They would acess the person they were about to flip off etc before doing so unless they couldnt see me. I, on the other hand would charge down a carload of guys if they gave me a slight reason.

    It is stupidity is what you must tell yourself. We are all only human and we all screw up. I have accidentally cut people off in traffic. I even did it on purpose a few times. Yet when the other guy cuts me off the first instinct is that it was intentional....

    Most likely it wasn't, but even if it was what good is it gonna do if I jerk him out of his window and lift him over my head and slam him on the ground?
    What? I am bigger so I have the right because he made a mistake? Hell no.

    When a powerful person is humble in public and polite in a bad situation, that is true character, and everything this cat wants to be.

    I got upset bad on a butt ton of gear a couple times. One time it was warranted and I choked (lightly) my gf's brother and slapped him.
    He put me in a vehichle with drugs and a gun and did not inform me of that situation he had put me in the drivers seat of. I honestly just wanted to knock some sense into him and prevent him from prison where he would not do well.

    Instead I created a ripple of anger that will effect this christmas. Yes I made my point and I know he will never do it again to anyone, but at what cost?

    The second time I got in an argument that I created over jealousy with my gf. She would never even consider cheating on me and I know thos from the depths of my soul.

    Anger took hold.
    I texted my friend I always do when shit hits the fan and explained. I figured I could calm down like normal. Instead I punched a table and broke it. I used to hit things a lot. This is something I trained myself never to do (long story). When I realized what I had done I felt enraged at myself and got in my suv and left.

    I was hyperventilating and it took over in a way I cant described. I drove around looking for someone to give me a reason to hurt them. I wanted a group. I wanted as many mfers as I could beat to death to so much as smart eye me.

    I got to a gas station (I had stopped at many) and it turned off like a switch. I was fucking exhausted. I knew right then I had startred the entire mess. I let my emptions rule and I am gd lucky I didnt find that group of ignorant ass teenagers of college kids.

    I would be in prison the rest of my life if I had.


    That is a "come to Jesus" moment. So next time catch yourself. Save it as something to think about when you let the animal out at the gym. Its not only gonna save your life it will kill your workouts.
    Bro, take a break from trees and write a book!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Obs View Post
    l.

    I was hyperventilating and it took over in a way I cant described. I drove around looking for someone to give me a reason to hurt them. I wanted a group. I wanted as many mfers as I could beat to death to so much as smart eye me.

    I got to a gas station (I had stopped at many) and it turned off like a switch. I was fucking exhausted. I knew right then I had startred the entire mess. I let my emptions rule and I am gd lucky I didnt find that group of ignorant ass teenagers of college kids.


    .

    I can relate to this.

    I've taken a "looking for a fight drive many times". Thank God it never found it's way, as I too would look for a few instead of one, and in spite of the anger, I realized after I calmed down I likely would have got killed.

    Driving around lower easy side and south side of Youngstown looking for a group to fight more than likely would end in knives and or gunfire.

    We all need a group Christmas party. They do it on other forums I used to be member of (not body building ones)

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    Quote Originally Posted by MuscleScience View Post
    You Mellow out as you age. I use to be extremely irritatable and impatient. Over time I just learned to stop taking every damn thing to heart and developed a “meh,” attitude towards things I couldn’t control. I lost several great relationships because of how impatient I was. Now I literally give zero fucks about unimportant or uncontrollable things.

    There was a very helpful book called

    “The Subtle Art of not Giving a Fuck.” By Mark Manson

    that really helped shape my Meh attitude towards most things. I’m typically not a book guy but this was helpful as it showed and gave me permission to not care about meaningless things.
    Iam wired different.
    Type A extreme. I do give a fuck about shit and there is no changing that. IDGAF is a type B trait I despise.
    In fact it probably sets my anger off more than anything.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Couchlockd View Post
    I can relate to this.

    I've taken a "looking for a fight drive many times". Thank God it never found it's way, as I too would look for a few instead of one, and in spite of the anger, I realized after I calmed down I likely would have got killed.

    Driving around lower easy side and south side of Youngstown looking for a group to fight more than likely would end in knives and or gunfire.

    We all need a group Christmas party. They do it on other forums I used to be member of (not body building ones)
    In Missouri guns on person are somewhat frowned upon still. It is getting more common though.
    Not long ago we would call guys pussies for needing to carry their gun hidden on them or on their hip.
    Now most people are pussies and they know it so more ar starting to carry guns hidden on them.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Couchlockd View Post
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    Chrck check 1.... 2...

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    Quote Originally Posted by KennyJ View Post
    Actually irritated right at this moment huh
    Irritation ok. Beeing charged of believing that 2000 mg is trt is an insault. And he wrote .35 -.4 which should be well put.

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    Quote Originally Posted by AR's King Silabolin View Post
    Irritation ok. Beeing charged of believing that 2000 mg is trt is an insault. And he wrote .35 -.4 which should be well put.

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    I think the OP edited it after originally posting 3.5 - 4 and the other guy was calling him out on that. Misunderstanding because no one would ever think that was TRT

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    Quote Originally Posted by KennyJ View Post
    I think the OP edited it after originally posting 3.5 - 4 and the other guy was calling him out on that. Misunderstanding because no one would ever think that was TRT
    Aha..edited after being called out. Then playing innocent. Thats pussy man

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    Quote Originally Posted by Test Monsterone View Post
    You know, although there probably is some underlying reason why we/I get like this, probably due to unbalanced hormones - there is nothing like when you can relate with someone. I feel so much better knowing I’m not the only one dealing with shit like this. Even though logically I know I’m not the only one, it feels good to know it’s not just me and if you can control yourself, so can I.

    On the arthritis In the hands part - I have this in my toes. When I was 19 I kicked the crap out of a wooden chair, broke it into pieces. To this day I get pain in my toes, they get stiff, and they crack. I have punched walls (concrete too), trees, my car, people, etc. i don’t have any arthritis signs in my hands yet. I do get pain in my wrists sometimes when benching with dumbbells or doing flys.

    Goes to show that we’re hurting ourselves in the end. It’s weird how as men when we’re hurting we do more damage to ourselves that we later have to deal with, instead of taking care of ourselves.

    I have replaced a door with my ex a few times myself. It all resonates man, it’s kind of funny.
    Next time you feel some anger or irritability coming on think about how you know why it's happening(because you're injecting test into your body) and try to just laugh about it. Sometimes when someone at work really pisses me off one of my buddies I work with tells me he can see my neck and face start to get red and he will just start laughing and I do as well because we both know I'm using AAS and we really get a kick out of knowing why I'm feeling that way. I don't have a big problem with it because I know what's happening and it truly does make me laugh when I think about what's going on. Anyway give it a try.

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    Personally estrogen has as much an effect if not more on my mood than test does. On test as long as I’m physiologic normal and above all is good. E I can feel like utter crap low, high, normal. I run just a tad high over normal and it’s a sweet spot. A little easy to get teary-eyed but overall I feel better. I would start looking at basics then go to other areas. Post up labs when they come in.

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    Quote Originally Posted by TrailRunAZ View Post
    Personally estrogen has as much an effect if not more on my mood than test does. On test as long as I’m physiologic normal and above all is good. E I can feel like utter crap low, high, normal. I run just a tad high over normal and it’s a sweet spot. A little easy to get teary-eyed but overall I feel better. I would start looking at basics then go to other areas. Post up labs when they come in.
    I agree , my mood is drastic when my estrogen is not within whatever sweet spot works for me .
    I could carry a six pack and perfect eye brows and if my E is off , my gf could tell me how handsome I am and I immediately suspect she's cheating haha.

    I don't doubt tren effects mood but I would agree , get to basics and work from there.

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    Quote Originally Posted by KennyJ View Post
    Next time you feel some anger or irritability coming on think about how you know why it's happening(because you're injecting test into your body) and try to just laugh about it. Sometimes when someone at work really pisses me off one of my buddies I work with tells me he can see my neck and face start to get red and he will just start laughing and I do as well because we both know I'm using AAS and we really get a kick out of knowing why I'm feeling that way. I don't have a big problem with it because I know what's happening and it truly does make me laugh when I think about what's going on. Anyway give it a try.
    I couldn't agree more bro , I feel if you just take a step back and look at it objectively, you can rationalise your behaviour and sort it out ....

    Hopefully


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