Help - 6 Week Cycle Enough?

[reeceg353]

Hi All,

Cocked up my dates, I have a 2 week holiday coming up at the beginning of March which means I'm a couple weeks late into my planned next cycle
I'm in the process of buying a house and that's completely taken my mind away from this.

I planned to do an 10 week cycle of Test-E 300 and Anavar. I'm 88kg, 5ft 10, this will be my second cycle (first was the same test e and anavar)

I just wondered in your opinion is there any point in starting this cycle with just 6 weeks till my holiday? I appreciate it takes a few weeks to really start seeing gains.

Not overly bothered, if it's better to just hold off till I'm back and do a 10 or 12 week cycle then fair play.

Thanks

[< <Samson> >]

Too short for a long ester

[Ernst]

Years ago I had a convo with Marcus about his 6 week burst cycle protocols and how one would use a long ester in one. I wish I still had his reply saved, but I don't. Suffice to say that it can be done, but it was a very advanced protocol and not well-suited to most all of us. I never even tried it myself, it was just too far out of my league.

In the case of this query I'm going to agree with Samson. Six weeks only really lends itself to short esters and I think one can have a perfectly awesome cycle in that length of time if done correctly.

[Windex]

There are short cycles available but as mentioned above they are advanced (ie not someone with 1 cycle of experience ) and you are giving yourself zero buffer time for any hiccups - whether it's side effects, a life event, any postage delays on your order etc.

If you are not on TRT then traveling + PCT is also not recommended.

Even if a perfect cycle could be executed, it will be challenging to maintain an optimum nutrition and training program while on vacation ( if at all ).

[< <Samson> >]

I suppose an effective 6 week cycle would be something super short Ester with some orals


But, I dunno - I'm still more pro on long duration cycles

[reeceg353]

Might give it a crack, 4 weeks Test-E then 2 weeks on Test-P

To be fair I could still pin whilst on vacation and train in the mornings once a day (hotel has a big gym)

[The Deadlifting Dog]

I am of the belief that the longer you hold onto the gains then the easier it is to keep the gains.

So...
Even with a short ester 6 weeks is kinda short.

And before someone says it....
If someone cruises on say 500 test then sure short blasts work and the gains can be kept...
But if someone is PCTing or taking a real TRT dose, say 100 test, then it is better to do a longer cycle (10-12 weeks) so one's body gets acclimated to the gains.

[Windex]

Might give it a crack, 4 weeks Test-E then 2 weeks on Test-P

To be fair I could still pin whilst on vacation and train in the mornings once a day (hotel has a big gym)

4 weeks of Test E is not going to accomplish anything meaningful.

I've never seen a hotel gym with an actual gym. It might be big, but that doesn't mean it has a full squat rack, or cable machine, or dumbbells past 30lbs.

Hotel food + eating out is not a recipe for success. Unless your hotel has a kitchenette or you plan to prep meals in advance your nutrition is going to tank.


You are not setting yourself up for success trying to go this route. Hopefully you take everyone's advice and wait as it's a bad idea.

[reeceg353]

Strong closing argument ha, yeah fair play - i'll wait.

Cheers all

[GearHeaded]

Your holiday is only 2 weeks long..

you could front load for 6 weeks, take your holiday and still maintain decent levels, and continue with your cycle when you get back.
or guarantee you that if you inject 2-3 grams of Deca or EQ before you leave on holiday, you'll have plenty high levels the 2 weeks your gone.

this is all very easily done. a 2 week break is not a problem.. or even a 6 week cycle is no problem. but again this doesn't have to be a 6 week cycle just cause there is a 2 week period where your not pinning gear (no big deal).

[Obs]

If you love it enough you will make it happen for 12 weeks.

[GearHeaded]

Easy breezy

Week 1-2
Test e 1000mg
Test p 500mg
EQ 1000mg

Week 3-5
Test e 1000mg
EQ 800mg
VAR 100mg day

Week 6
Test e 1500mg
EQ 2000mg
VAR 100mg

week 7-8 vacation

Week 9 - whenever
Test 500mg
EQ 800mg



your blood serum levels are going to be very high the day you leave for vacation and will easily carry over and sustain you the whole 2 weeks your gone .. when you come back you resume your cycle and more common lower dosages if you want. the VAR is just in there as a mild anabolic to get things going for you quickly the first 6 weeks. both Var and EQ are very mild compounds and suitable even for new users.

IF your not used to running high dosage of test . then scratch the high dosages and the front load and do it with just EQ and Var. leave test at like 400mg per week , except for week 6 then pin 1000mg that week only.


you could also do this same exact thing as a 6 week cycle and simply start pct once back from vacation

note: only reason I got EQ used as an example here though is because its a long ester that will easily carry you through a 2 week vacation

[The Deadlifting Dog]

Easy breezy

Week 1-2
Test e 1000mg
Test p 500mg
EQ 1000mg

Week 3-5
Test e 1000mg
EQ 8000mg
VAR 100mg day

Week 6
Test e 1500mg
EQ 2000mg
VAR 100mg

week 7-8 vacation

Week 9 - whenever
Test 500mg
EQ 800mg



your blood serum levels are going to be very high the day you leave for vacation and will easily carry over and sustain you the whole 2 weeks your gone .. when you come back you resume your cycle and more common lower dosages if you want. the VAR is just in there as a mild anabolic to get things going for you quickly the first 6 weeks. both Var and EQ are very mild compounds and suitable even for new users.

IF your not used to running high dosage of test . then scratch the high dosages and the front load and do it with just EQ and Var. leave test at like 400mg per week , except for week 6 then pin 1000mg that week only.


you could also do this same exact thing as a 6 week cycle and simply start pct once back from vacation

note: only reason I got EQ used as an example here though is because its a long ester that will easily carry you through a 2 week vacation

Seriously???

So someone who is doing his 2nd cycle should run almost 10 grams of gear for 3 weeks straight just so they can go on vacation and barely workout or diet?
I think this is a very absurd recommendation.

[GearHeaded]

Seriously???

So someone who is doing his 2nd cycle should run almost 10 grams of gear for 3 weeks straight just so they can go on vacation and barely workout or diet?
I think this is a very absurd recommendation.

I missed that it was "only his 2nd cycle"...

so fine , lower the dosages a tad bit same concept though . dosages are always given by me as an EXAMPLE only . don't know why some of you always freak out about dosages given like they are exact prescriptions written out by a doc or something.
(and a gram of test with 800mg of EQ is far from absurd and completely doable for a new user imo.. but again, the exact dosages given were irrelevant, the concept of how it was laid out was the point . but I'm sure that concept got lost cause the 'dosage' are all that were seen)

[ScotchGuard02]

Might give it a crack, 4 weeks Test-E then 2 weeks on Test-P

To be fair I could still pin whilst on vacation and train in the mornings once a day (hotel has a big gym)

I've run 6 week cycle in the past. Mix the Tren A and the Test P in a sterile vial and pin the mix (you determine the concentration) every other day for 6 weeks. While your're running the mix, after 2 weeks, start on the Anavar for the last 4 weeks. I've gotten good results and my recovery (before I went on TRT) was easier during PCT.

[ScotchGuard02]

I missed that it was "only his 2nd cycle"...

so fine , lower the dosages a tad bit same concept though . dosages are always given by me as an EXAMPLE only . don't know why some of you always freak out about dosages given like they are exact prescriptions written out by a doc or something.

LOL, I hear ya. The comments expressed on this board are all opinions. Without empirical clinical results, it's all an opinion.

[GearHeaded]

Seriously???

So someone who is doing his 2nd cycle should run almost 10 grams of gear for 3 weeks straight just so they can go on vacation and barely workout or diet?
I think this is a very absurd recommendation.

if life happens and a short 2 week vacation pops up, and thats going to absolutely ruin someones training diet and gear use. then they probably shouldn't be running gear in the first place right?
if you can't handle little things like that while running gear, then what can you handle when running gear.

this idea that in order to run gear you have to become a juice monk in solitude for 12 weeks straight and only diet and train and nothing else that whole 12 weeks is ridiculous . live your normal life, run your gear, and enjoy the process (work around life while ON gear should be easily doable)

[kelkel]

Cocked up my dates, I have a 2 week holiday coming up at the beginning of March which means I'm a couple weeks late into my planned next cycle I'm in the process of buying a house and that's completely taken my mind away from this.

Since life if quite busy for you at the moment wouldn't simply waiting until after your vacation be the smartest option? Buying a house, moving and everything that goes with it is quite stressful and time consuming. You'd probably have much more success post vacation.

[The Deadlifting Dog]

I missed that it was "only his 2nd cycle"...

so fine , lower the dosages a tad bit same concept though . dosages are always given by me as an EXAMPLE only . don't know why some of you always freak out about dosages given like they are exact prescriptions written out by a doc or something.
(and a gram of test with 800mg of EQ is far from absurd and completely doable for a new user imo.. but again, the exact dosages given were irrelevant, the concept of how it was laid out was the point . but I'm sure that concept got lost cause the 'dosage' are all that were seen)

You wrote 8000mg of EQ not 800mg.
If it was a mistype then sure it is doable but....

I still don't think someone should go on their 2nd cycle while being on vacation.

[GearHeaded]

You wrote 8000mg of EQ not 800mg.
If it was a mistype then sure it is doable but.....

LOL . yes it was a mis type . but non the less , makes my point that dosages given are just EXAMPLES and it was the concept that was the point..
I could of just written "xxxxx". as my dosages I suppose

[GearHeaded]

in the end , the guy with the juice and the syringe is going to decide for himself what dosage to stick himself with.

I sure hope he'd do a bit more evaluation then follow some anonymous guy on a forums 'typo' where 8000 was supposed to be 800

[Ernst]

I sure hope he'd do a bit more evaluation then follow some anonymous guy on a forums 'typo' where 8000 was supposed to be 800

Have you been in the Q&A before?!

Plenty of people will shoot random shit into their asses for weeks before even asking what's in the syringe.

Any day you'll see a new thread topic "So I shot 8 grams of EQ alone for my first cycle and I'm not gaining anything, want to add Tren..."


That said, I'd be curious to see how you would build a 6 week only burst with long esters, or if you'd even bother with that kind of protocol. Forgive me if you've covered this before. I vaguely remember it involving massive doses on top of even more massive frontloads and was really built around someone who already knew how their body reacted to various types of gear by the gram.

[Cuz]

LOL, I hear ya. The comments expressed on this board are all opinions. Without empirical clinical results, it's all an opinion.

Best answer, common sense goes along way as well ��

[GearHeaded]

That said, I'd be curious to see how you would build a 6 week only burst with long esters, or if you'd even bother with that kind of protocol. Forgive me if you've covered this before. I vaguely remember it involving massive doses on top of even more massive frontloads and was really built around someone who already knew how their body reacted to various types of gear by the gram.

perhaps your thinking about some of the things I mention in my thread here on advanced protocols
https://forums.steroid.com/anabolic-...protocols.html

but yes you can do 'burst' cycles with long esters , BUT its going to be best utilized for guys that blast and cruise. and NO by 'burst' cycle I'm not talking about the idea that you can run a short blast of short ester drugs for a very short time to limit HPTA shut down and then go back to natty status for a month or so with good natty test production and then go back and do another 'burst' .. though this was common back in the late 80s early 90s . now days we've all come to realize that just staying on TRT and blasting is much more efficient and maintainable in regards to gains.

edit- of course you could still do that. nothing wrong with a burst cycle and then come off and then go back on with no pct yet trying to maintain some natty function . I just don't think its optimal for gains. I also don't think doing a single cycle, and then doing pct, then doing a single cycle, then doing pct again and again etc.. is optimal or ideal either. 1 or maybe 2 PCTs per year is all you need (but again I'm focused on gains)

[balance]

Juice monk!
Lol

[Obs]

Lol I like this thread