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    Boxing vs MMA

    I'll start by saying I like MMA. Boxing is however superior for reasons

    2nd Chances - A fighter may get careless or not be properly warmed. Should he be caught by a flash knockdown. A proper 10-count is given to give the boxer a 2nd chance to get up and prove to everyone that the knockdown was a fluke. This 2nd chance makes for very exciting and dramatic match-ups where numerous knockdowns are traded back and forth by both boxers until one finally crumbles before the other. A boxer given a second chance is allowed to fight with his heart to see if he has what it takes to get up and keep going. In many occasions, the one that gets down first stands up discourages his opponent by not folding. As the rounds progress, he begins to break down his opponent mentally by not succumbing first, and then coming out the victor. MMA fights are stopped too soon. In boxing, you're given a chance to show everyone you still got plenty left. Sadly, it's this second chance that makes boxing more dangerous than MMA. It's the fact that fighters are given a second chance to get up and take more punishment to the head before they are knocked out, that makes a boxer's life that much riskier.


    More Physical - Yes, I said it. Boxing is much more physical. Why? Easy. In boxing you can win simply by being SLIGHTLY FASTER than your opponent. You can also win by being a harder puncher or by having better conditioning. The main idea is that you can win simply by being in much better shape. Your skill level must be equal of course, but having slight physical advantages can easily tilt the fight to be in your favor. MMA allows fighters of inferior physical capabilities to compete against stronger fighters. This is an advantage to MMA but also a disadvantage because it doesn't measure the raw physical capability of a fighter. Sometimes, this world wants to see a clear physical win, like Olympic Sprinting. You can easily see who won, and you appreciate runners that crush the competition with sheer super-human gifts.

    Better Conditioning - As biased as this may seem, I still have to argue that boxers are better conditioned overall. Their physical demands are more RAW than MMA. Boxing is a sport where the young bull CAN overthrow the old lion. Young fighters are able to over-power, over-run, out speed and outwork the old technical master. Being a master is not enough, you must have the physical assets to keep up the skillful boxing all 12 rounds or else. Although skill is needed, everything else is required simply to be able to compete. Show up in the ring with your reflexes slightly off and you'll wake up on the canvas. MMA is more technical and fighters can win by stalling, taking breaks during guard positions, old fighters can get lucky with their tricky submissions. An old boxer cannot always eliminate the young boxer by getting a lucky punch in. Boxing requires intense training for power, speed, stamina, reflexes, coordination, agility, and mental preparation. Preparing to get punched in the face is UNLIKE any other sport. Wrestling is simply NOT DANGEROUS and you don't have to worry about getting hurt too much. Imagine having to train for an opponent that can hit harder than a hammer!



    Flurries - Boxing allows you to witness the great brilliance of multiple successful hits known as a combo or a flurry. Although flurries of punches and strikes are commonly seen in MMA, most of the time MMA fights progress from one wrestling position to another, with either fighter progressing one step at a time from a dominant position to a final submission. Boxing shows you the dazzling effect of watching one fighter unload 10-20 unanswered punches upon the other for a devastating knockout. There is no better victorious fighting image than one of a boxer tearing another boxer apart with rapid punches.


    More Weight Classes - Although some people argue that having so many weight class is bad. I think it is good for the sport because it allows for a more accurate display of talent and physical ability. Imagine how many great boxers we would not have witnessed if there was no such thing as the welterweight class. Imagine if boxing only had one weight class - heavyweight. We would have missed out on the brilliance of Sugar Ray Leonard, Roberto Duran, Thomas Hearns, Oscar De La Hoya, Manny Pacquiao, Roy Jones Jr., Floyd Mayweather Jr., and more! Having more weight classes makes things more fair and allows for more athletes to compete against other athletes in a fair manner. MMA has so few weight classes that many great talents of lower weight classes cannot compete because their weight class goes up so high in size that other fighters can nullify their skill with sheer size and strength. Not fair for the fighters, and not fair for us.

    Imagine how much talent we would witness if we had a basketball league for players under 5'9"?

    On the street, I'd rather have MMA skills. But for watching boxing definitely has more to offer. A longer fight with more strategy and endurance coming into play. It amazes me how many top tier MMA fighters do still get winded within 2 five minute rounds. Also, many MMA fights seem to end rapidly with a wild punch that lands well in the first minutes of the fight. Not very satisfying.

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    Quote Originally Posted by MuscleScience View Post
    Oh no, not another one of these threads. Someone is going to get all butt hurt...LOL
    I really wanted to avoid declaring my opinoin about this but with reading all the arguements on this subject i decieded just to voice them anyway lol

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    1. Do you practise any martial arts?
    2. Are you a boxer?

    I disagree with your statements because a good MMA fighter knows how to boxe. Boxe itself is a very important part of the training program.
    While a boxer, knows how to boxe and that is all.

    So, really I see no possible discussion.

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    this is as debatable as a religion thread. It's all about personal preference.

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    Quote Originally Posted by stack_it View Post
    this is as debatable as a religion thread. It's all about personal preference.
    Speaking about "the show business" of course it is a debatable topic since we all can have preferences.

    But, a MMA fighter is way superior to a boxer simply because the first one knows and train "the art" of the second; considering of course same weight athletes.

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    Please not another one .... Can we agree to disagree gents ?

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    http://forums.steroid.com/showthread.php?t=402017

    just for everyone who hasent read this thread....

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    Quote Originally Posted by BJJ View Post
    Speaking about "the show business" of course it is a debatable topic since we all can have preferences.

    But, a MMA fighter is way superior to a boxer simply because the first one knows and train "the art" of the second; considering of course same weight athletes.
    I agree with you. I feel mma fighters are more skilled overall, but you put a mma fighter in a boxing ring and more than likely they will lose. The same goes for if you put a boxer in the cage. The fact of which is better is personal preference. I happen to enjoy mma more and have several friends who fight mma and one who has fought mma and boxed. I actually don't think I could sit through a boxing match.

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    boxing is the art of punching

    mma is the art of fighting

    its hard to compare

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    Looks like im to late for the debate

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    I love both sports but i would have to say i like mma better

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    Quote Originally Posted by energizer bunny View Post
    http://forums.steroid.com/showthread.php?t=402017

    just for everyone who hasent read this thread....
    Well, thanks because I have missed it.

    Quote Originally Posted by stack_it View Post
    I agree with you. I feel mma fighters are more skilled overall, but you put a mma fighter in a boxing ring and more than likely they will lose. The same goes for if you put a boxer in the cage. The fact of which is better is personal preference. I happen to enjoy mma more and have several friends who fight mma and one who has fought mma and boxed. I actually don't think I could sit through a boxing match.
    That is what I wanted to mean.

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    Boxing is too one dimensional and to say a boxer is a better athelete is obsurd. The old adage before MMA was who would win in a fight a boxer or a martial artist. Well, now that MMA is around it's been proven a million times that the New Martial Artist (MMA Fighter) will dominate. They have too many weapons at their disposal and can change the outcome of a fight so many times.

    I'm not a boxing fan but i use to be. I've been an MMA fan since 1993 after seeing the first UFC on PPV. Things have progressed a lot of the years and some good and some bad. Shall be interesting to see where the sport goes in the next 5 years.

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    Quote Originally Posted by stack_it View Post
    I agree with you. I feel mma fighters are more skilled overall, but you put a mma fighter in a boxing ring and more than likely they will lose. The same goes for if you put a boxer in the cage. The fact of which is better is personal preference. I happen to enjoy mma more and have several friends who fight mma and one who has fought mma and boxed. I actually don't think I could sit through a boxing match.
    True. I think it´s stupid when people ask who will win a boxer or an MMA fighter. A boxer will probably win in a boxing fight and an MMA fighter will most likely win in an MMA fight unless the boxer hit the MMA fighter really hard when he doesn´t cover up.
    I like training boxing and do sparring but I think that MMA is more fun to watch.
    When Mike Tyson was good he was fun to watch.

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    True. I think it´s stupid when people ask who will win a boxer or an MMA fighter. A boxer will probably win in a boxing fight and an MMA fighter will most likely win in an MMA fight unless the boxer hit the MMA fighter really hard when he doesn´t cover up.

    Exactly what I was going to say.

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    MMA all day long

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    Who cares. They are both great. I hope you all watch and enjoy both sports. Here is a news flash, BJ Penn would destroy Floyd or Manny in MMA and Floyd would kill Penn in boxing. Brian Urlacher is also a much better football player than Kobe where as Kobe is much at shooting three pointers than Urlacher. Both sports can be loved and respected.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Brown Ninja View Post
    Who cares. They are both great. I hope you all watch and enjoy both sports. Here is a news flash, BJ Penn would destroy Floyd or Manny in MMA and Floyd would kill Penn in boxing. Brian Urlacher is also a much better football player than Kobe where as Kobe is much at shooting three pointers than Urlacher. Both sports can be loved and respected.
    Very, very, well said, brotha!!!

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    i practice both myself and i love boxing more than mma as a sport however in the real world for me its better to be well rounded with mma skills. as a bouncer ive been on my back and used mma jiu jitsu techniques to evade the situation and on several occasions choke someone out i love using boxing as a defensive tactic against people and countering with my own but in the real world mma has been better for me.

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    MMA is the best martial arts since it's a mix of the best techniques from all martial arts

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    Boxing is a lot more "classy" of a sport.

    BUT

    Because of that there's a lot more room for variables..

    Which leaved room for much more corruption and just all around shadiness.

    I love boxing too, but with all the scandals and bs involved Id rather spend my valuable and limited time I have here on this spinning ball watching mma.

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    Quote Originally Posted by BRITISH ANABOLIC View Post
    I'll start by saying I like MMA. Boxing is however superior for reasons

    2nd Chances - A fighter may get careless or not be properly warmed. Should he be caught by a flash knockdown. A proper 10-count is given to give the boxer a 2nd chance to get up and prove to everyone that the knockdown was a fluke. This 2nd chance makes for very exciting and dramatic match-ups where numerous knockdowns are traded back and forth by both boxers until one finally crumbles before the other. A boxer given a second chance is allowed to fight with his heart to see if he has what it takes to get up and keep going. In many occasions, the one that gets down first stands up discourages his opponent by not folding. As the rounds progress, he begins to break down his opponent mentally by not succumbing first, and then coming out the victor. MMA fights are stopped too soon. In boxing, you're given a chance to show everyone you still got plenty left. Sadly, it's this second chance that makes boxing more dangerous than MMA. It's the fact that fighters are given a second chance to get up and take more punishment to the head before they are knocked out, that makes a boxer's life that much riskier.


    More Physical - Yes, I said it. Boxing is much more physical. Why? Easy. In boxing you can win simply by being SLIGHTLY FASTER than your opponent. You can also win by being a harder puncher or by having better conditioning. The main idea is that you can win simply by being in much better shape. Your skill level must be equal of course, but having slight physical advantages can easily tilt the fight to be in your favor. MMA allows fighters of inferior physical capabilities to compete against stronger fighters. This is an advantage to MMA but also a disadvantage because it doesn't measure the raw physical capability of a fighter. Sometimes, this world wants to see a clear physical win, like Olympic Sprinting. You can easily see who won, and you appreciate runners that crush the competition with sheer super-human gifts.

    Better Conditioning - As biased as this may seem, I still have to argue that boxers are better conditioned overall. Their physical demands are more RAW than MMA. Boxing is a sport where the young bull CAN overthrow the old lion. Young fighters are able to over-power, over-run, out speed and outwork the old technical master. Being a master is not enough, you must have the physical assets to keep up the skillful boxing all 12 rounds or else. Although skill is needed, everything else is required simply to be able to compete. Show up in the ring with your reflexes slightly off and you'll wake up on the canvas. MMA is more technical and fighters can win by stalling, taking breaks during guard positions, old fighters can get lucky with their tricky submissions. An old boxer cannot always eliminate the young boxer by getting a lucky punch in. Boxing requires intense training for power, speed, stamina, reflexes, coordination, agility, and mental preparation. Preparing to get punched in the face is UNLIKE any other sport. Wrestling is simply NOT DANGEROUS and you don't have to worry about getting hurt too much. Imagine having to train for an opponent that can hit harder than a hammer!



    Flurries - Boxing allows you to witness the great brilliance of multiple successful hits known as a combo or a flurry. Although flurries of punches and strikes are commonly seen in MMA, most of the time MMA fights progress from one wrestling position to another, with either fighter progressing one step at a time from a dominant position to a final submission. Boxing shows you the dazzling effect of watching one fighter unload 10-20 unanswered punches upon the other for a devastating knockout. There is no better victorious fighting image than one of a boxer tearing another boxer apart with rapid punches.


    More Weight Classes - Although some people argue that having so many weight class is bad. I think it is good for the sport because it allows for a more accurate display of talent and physical ability. Imagine how many great boxers we would not have witnessed if there was no such thing as the welterweight class. Imagine if boxing only had one weight class - heavyweight. We would have missed out on the brilliance of Sugar Ray Leonard, Roberto Duran, Thomas Hearns, Oscar De La Hoya, Manny Pacquiao, Roy Jones Jr., Floyd Mayweather Jr., and more! Having more weight classes makes things more fair and allows for more athletes to compete against other athletes in a fair manner. MMA has so few weight classes that many great talents of lower weight classes cannot compete because their weight class goes up so high in size that other fighters can nullify their skill with sheer size and strength. Not fair for the fighters, and not fair for us.

    Imagine how much talent we would witness if we had a basketball league for players under 5'9"?

    On the street, I'd rather have MMA skills. But for watching boxing definitely has more to offer. A longer fight with more strategy and endurance coming into play. It amazes me how many top tier MMA fighters do still get winded within 2 five minute rounds. Also, many MMA fights seem to end rapidly with a wild punch that lands well in the first minutes of the fight. Not very satisfying.
    you posted it as if it was a fact. opinions are not facts

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    trying to determine who is the better athlete is pretty subjective. it's like trying to argue who's the better athlete between lebron james and adrian peterson. both are freaks but play to completely different sports. although boxing and mma are similar its really unfair to so because the training required is so varied. I think mma may be the harder sport to train in because you must be versed in so many areas. at the same time i believe that boxing requires the better pure athlete. look at some of the greatest/ most athletic fighters of all time: ali, robinson, leonard, jones jr, and mayweather. all those fighters were basicly born to be fighters and probably superior athleticly to most all mma fighters. Bj penn and GSP are obvisous exception to this rule. but in general i think it takes a better pure athlete to make a great boxer and it takes a more determined harder-working athlete to make a great cagefighter. all just my opinion though

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    lol i always find this subject to be funny so lets start here

    1 bas rutten already proved he can out power a boxers punch

    2 bas ruttens kick was almost 4 times the power of a pro boxers

    3 taking a boxer to the ground would be easy

    4 once on the ground he would be tapped out


    i mean be real a 2000+ pound kick will have a longer reach and more power then a 800 pound punch

    too be real about it a boxer always has a fighting chance with the one hit ko
    BUT a mma fighter has that same chance plus on the ground there would be no chance for the boxer

    pound for pound a mma fighter with good stand up and a perfect ground game will win 8-10 times

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    iv trained in boxing for 2 years and mma for close to 6 or so now

    see the problem with comparing schools of training are this

    one a boxing school is small they train up to 7 days a week
    now mma schools are getting bigger more people joining means less class time

    so if a boxer joined one of the bigger schools and trained 1-2 times a week they would think that

    but it smaller school like the grind in clearwater florida theres 10 or 15 guys who train 7 days a week in boxing muay thai wrestling jiu jitsu

    for one the training is better then the bigger schools more one on one time
    the cardio is crazy u will puke the first few times everyone does

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    Quote Originally Posted by tudodude View Post
    I think ballet is superior to yoga.

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    2nd chances are for the weak... lolol

    If you want a 2nd chance, its called a "re-match". And I believe this to be a fact- MMA is much harder to train for then boxing.

    Isnt it much easier to learn how to catch then learn how to play the sport of baseball??? (great analogy, right!! lolol)

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    My Tai Chi will kick all your asses.

    You guys take things out of proportion, in a real fight a boxer will not only use his fists, he may even use his elbows, once he does that it is now MMA, why? because MMA stands for "Mixed Martial Arts", which does NOT mean Muay Thai and BJJ. MMA can be Kung Fu and boxing, tai Chi and kickboxing... you get my point.

    A MMA approach to boxing, say boxing with the inclusion of kicks will make a powerful combo.

    All MMA is, is when two arts or more combine!

    MMA DOES NOT EQUAL UFC!

    And yes i hate UFC, it will one day turn into WWE.

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    lol the rich history and power of boxing has over all countries is massive and unfortunately all the newbie lovers of mma will unfortunately never have that purely because the sport to some countries is still to brutal and at times just looks completely unskilled and purely viciously volient, The guy has some great points with which i agree with but both cant be compared at all its like apples and oranges....

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    Quote Originally Posted by Mr.Rose View Post
    ... And yes i hate UFC, it will one day turn into WWE.
    Sometimes I think it is already beginning the transformation..

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    I don't have enough room on this thread to tell people how bad boxing is any more! Boxng hit its peak a long time ago and has been trying to reclaim the appeal it once had .bad fight after bad fight boxer not fighting good boxers untill they are 51 years old and can barely talk anymore.boxers getting paid 35 million dollars to fight a garbage opponet or a fighter in his prime fighting another good boxer ready to retire.or let's not forget paying 55$ to watch 5 shitty fights and then the main event is shitty too.after mayweather ,and pacman,boxing is done for good there will be no more star'sin boxing they will all be in mma.and then we can throw the dirt on this shitty sport for good .wait maybe we can watch roy jones vs bhop 2 ....that was a thriller

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    This is pure class...ino people look at Ali Tyson as the best boxers ever...but iv never seen movement like joe, and never seen confidence like it...oh and in know its only jones but..

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cgOLCL_Pv1s

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    the best call on this thread was that the UFC will become the new WWF wrestling haha its true it will just be another american fad for the kids and for dana white to become a billionaire if hes already there lol Boxing kickboxing, K1 will stay and will continue to grow and be supported however UFC is for beer drinking americans

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    Quote Originally Posted by layeazy View Post
    the best call on this thread was that the UFC will become the new WWF wrestling haha its true it will just be another american fad for the kids and for dana white to become a billionaire if hes already there lol Boxing kickboxing, K1 will stay and will continue to grow and be supported however UFC is for beer drinking americans
    Nice opinion, typical ignorant fvk. Should be a law about people like you giving an opinion. Your red flagged on my grid buddy.

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    Any asshole who compares ufc to the wwe is a ****ing retart! Maybe if boxing used some of the tactics that the wwe used ,to promote fights ,and actully put on good fights ,maybe boxing wouldn't be in such a shit hole,the average boxing fan don't even know who's the champ ,in any of the 125 weight classes boxing has .I used to love boxing more then anything ,I forgot more about boxing then most people know .untill the sport sucked everything out of me with shit fight after shit fight ,and great fights never happening. Even though iam not a fan of the wwe,Vince mcmahn,is a genius,and boxing should of followed the blueprint he laid out ,the ufc learned how to get people in the seats,and is one f the biggest sports around the world right now ,and the wwe still sells out and has a good young fan base .but boxing don't and its almost done for good ,after mayweather and pacman ,boxing will fold
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    Boxing needs another tyson. mma is cool but expensive and somoe of the top talent ie anderson silva don't end fights they just dance around, we need another real deal guy in the ufc

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    boxing competitors are just as good athletes as mma fights but because boxers concentrate on only punches an imo has a much better punch meaning they can usually throw alot more punches that are more powerful and accurate in a quicker time frame and mma fighter vs a boxer for the mma guy to win he has to get past the more lethal boxers punches an most mma fighters generally dont tolerate punches to the face aswell as a boxer. but on the other side boxers cant handle kicks to the facee or legs,but as in all fights its down to the split second who wins and although training in fighting improves ur chances in the end its all down to luck you may say .jimo

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