Physique Competition in the future

**tarmyg** · 04-13-2018, 02:31 AM

As some of you know, we just finished the most improved competition and I must admit it did give me some blood for potentially doing a physique competition in the future. I gather a 3-5 year timeframe should be enough to add the muscle needed, but I am looking for feedback on how to go about this except to move my training more towards hypertrophy training and eat more food. Based on the final picture, I have added it here for reference, what do I need to bring up to be competitive? I realize my questions are not very specific, but I am just starting to figure this out. Appreciate any and all feedback!

**charger69** · 04-13-2018, 04:46 AM

Originally Posted by tarmyg

As some of you know, we just finished the most improved competition and I must admit it did give me some blood for potentially doing a physique competition in the future. I gather a 3-5 year timeframe should be enough to add the muscle needed, but I am looking for feedback on how to go about this except to move my training more towards hypertrophy training and eat more food. Based on the final picture, I have added it here for reference, what do I need to bring up to be competitive? I realize my questions are not very specific, but I am just starting to figure this out. Appreciate any and all feedback!

Oh no! It’s the ghost of Celine to haunt me. LOL
People may disagree with my take.... if you really want to do it, then pick a competition and train for it.... within the next year. It is really rare that you win a division the first time. Get some experience under your belt. You may not like it. It can get pretty intense. With the diet, no carbs and dehydration. The guys in physique get extremely low body fat and paper thin skin.
I have not competed in physique but They compete at the same shows.
Also, remember that you are over 40. You will be competing with guys in their 20’s. I am not sure if they have a 40+ class.
With that being said, if you want to, then just do it. You are not getting any younger. Heck, I didn’t start B.B. until I was 46, so anything is possible. Keep us informed of your decision. You’ve got my backing if you decide to go that way.
Note: that will not allow you to wear a Celine mask. LOL

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**tarmyg** · 04-13-2018, 08:35 AM

Originally Posted by charger69

Oh no! It’s the ghost of Celine to haunt me. LOL
People may disagree with my take.... if you really want to do it, then pick a competition and train for it.... within the next year. It is really rare that you win a division the first time. Get some experience under your belt. You may not like it. It can get pretty intense. With the diet, no carbs and dehydration. The guys in physique get extremely low body fat and paper thin skin.
I have not competed in physique but They compete at the same shows.
Also, remember that you are over 40. You will be competing with guys in their 20’s. I am not sure if they have a 40+ class.
With that being said, if you want to, then just do it. You are not getting any younger. Heck, I didn’t start B.B. until I was 46, so anything is possible. Keep us informed of your decision. You’ve got my backing if you decide to go that way.
Note: that will not allow you to wear a Celine mask. LOL

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Thanks Charger, would be lying if I did not acknowledge that you competing hugely inspired this decision.

**Capebuffalo** · 04-13-2018, 11:06 AM

Back in Black would be someone to reach out to. Hes done a few I think. Won his last one if I remember correctly.

**Back In Black** · 04-13-2018, 01:55 PM

Originally Posted by Capebuffalo

Back in Black would be someone to reach out to. Hes done a few I think. Won his last one if I remember correctly.

Done 1
Won 1

I didn’t have the most muscle and wasn’t the leanest but I posed best, smiled the most and was confident. ‘Personality’ counts for quite a bit I think.

I was competing in Masters (over 40) but I don’t know Masters age in the States, you might be competing agains guys 10 years younger.

You need broad shoulders and a small waist or, at least give that illusion. I’d be working on delts, chest (upper particularly) and lats.

Go to a show or 2 and check out the Masters categories and also the normal physique guys who generally pose much better.

You could compete next year, not sure what your cycling plans are though. Committing to a show focuses the mind.

BTW, I remember how you used to look, hats off to you.

**charger69** · 04-13-2018, 03:52 PM

Originally Posted by Back In Black

Done 1
Won 1

I didn’t have the most muscle and wasn’t the leanest but I posed best, smiled the most and was confident. ‘Personality’ counts for quite a bit I think.

I was competing in Masters (over 40) but I don’t know Masters age in the States, you might be competing agains guys 10 years younger.

You need broad shoulders and a small waist or, at least give that illusion. I’d be working on delts, chest (upper particularly) and lats.

Go to a show or 2 and check out the Masters categories and also the normal physique guys who generally pose much better.

You could compete next year, not sure what your cycling plans are though. Committing to a show focuses the mind.

BTW, I remember how you used to look, hats off to you.

Congrats BIB. Anyone who competes and wins the first time....... WOW.
I have never seen it done..... but then again, I have never been with anyone like BIB!

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**tarmyg** · 04-16-2018, 07:11 PM

Thank you for the feedback. I have been looking around India to see where I could compete and there are a few places. For anyone who has lived here for a longer period of time will realize, chances of me, even placing here, is slim to none due to some peoples view on foreigners. I'll be the only white dude competing :-)

Two options and I'll decide which one next year but will start my build-up process in June of this year giving me a good 18-months.

1. Jerai classic, three classes and I would fit into the Fitness Model part. Rules are just like the physique competition back home. Unfortunately no age classes so I'll have to suck it up and compete with all the 20-year olds.
Male Fitness Model
Bikini Diva
Male Muscle Model
Male Muscle Masters
December 2019

2. Body Power is holding some contests here now and I can try that to simply get some experience.
FALL 2019

I have started looking at my routine but honestly, Marcus Dungeon thread is enough with examples and people training hardcore so I'll probably just join in there starting June sometime as I'll be able to get some very experienced feedback. This should be a fun journey except for the diet at the end!

**GearHeaded** · 04-16-2018, 08:13 PM

as for improvements, I'll give my 2 cents. really you just need to improve your v taper. this will give you a more dominant stage presence. focus on bringing up your lats and your delts.

**XXXXXXXXXX** · 04-17-2018, 02:24 PM

i would try to overtrain the abs overtime they will atrophy and become smaller and show more cuts especially; the obliques(smaller waist).
From the lower back and back thickness from rows, id give it a break do minimal work on that and focus on pulldowns alottt to make the back more of a v-shape, shoulder day do more lateral raises, upright rows and cable lateral raises, front and rear delt just try to maintain 1exercise each , also work on your bicep more than your brachialis, i bet the brachialis got so developed from doing alot of rows..

**Quester** · 04-22-2018, 05:13 PM

Why not plan a contest in a country where there is a masters group your age and judging is more friendly?

**MuscleScience** · 04-22-2018, 09:11 PM

Originally Posted by Quester

Why not plan a contest in a country where there is a masters group your age and judging is more friendly?

He lives in India.

**MuscleScience** · 04-22-2018, 09:14 PM

I think you could go on stage now to be honest. I lost to much smaller guys every physique show I entered. One small show i did I was bigger than the body builders. I really got it handed to me on posing and smiling. I hate smiling for some reason. I love being on stage but felt very uncomfortable posing. Which is why I want to try classic physique as a challenge to up my posing and break my fear of doing that.

**charger69** · 04-23-2018, 04:43 AM

Originally Posted by MuscleScience

I think you could go on stage now to be honest. I lost to much smaller guys every physique show I entered. One small show i did I was bigger than the body builders. I really got it handed to me on posing and smiling. I hate smiling for some reason. I love being on stage but felt very uncomfortable posing. Which is why I want to try classic physique as a challenge to up my posing and break my fear of doing that.

Go for it! Posing is an art and I dont know if you ever master it. In my case, i am changing my posing as my body changes. You try to highlight your strengths and hide your weaknesses. Damn, do I have alot of weaknesses to hide. LOL

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**tarmyg** · 04-23-2018, 05:03 AM

I will not be ready to compete this year. I am in the middle of getting our company off the ground and I am choosing to focus all my energy on that and from what I have heard you are not very useful to have around in the last part of that type of cut and it's not time I am willing to lose, correct me if I am wrong!

Think I have my routine ready to improve lats, delts and upper chest.

Lastly, from what I understand posing (and apparently smiling, thanks MS) is something that can win an entire competition. Does anyone have good resources around this? What I found in a quick search on the interwebs were not that useful.

Thanks guys,
~t

BG · 04-26-2018, 06:23 PM

Your thinking is 100% correct.

Body building is a way of life..........but can not get in the way of your life.

Originally Posted by tarmyg

I will not be ready to compete this year. I am in the middle of getting our company off the ground and I am choosing to focus all my energy on that and from what I have heard you are not very useful to have around in the last part of that type of cut and it's not time I am willing to lose, correct me if I am wrong!

Think I have my routine ready to improve lats, delts and upper chest.

Lastly, from what I understand posing (and apparently smiling, thanks MS) is something that can win an entire competition. Does anyone have good resources around this? What I found in a quick search on the interwebs were not that useful.

Thanks guys,
~t

**MuscleScience** · 04-26-2018, 06:28 PM

Originally Posted by tarmyg

I will not be ready to compete this year. I am in the middle of getting our company off the ground and I am choosing to focus all my energy on that and from what I have heard you are not very useful to have around in the last part of that type of cut and it's not time I am willing to lose, correct me if I am wrong!

Think I have my routine ready to improve lats, delts and upper chest.

Lastly, from what I understand posing (and apparently smiling, thanks MS) is something that can win an entire competition. Does anyone have good resources around this? What I found in a quick search on the interwebs were not that useful.

Thanks guys,
~t

Im told I have resting douche face.

**kelkel** · 04-26-2018, 07:05 PM

Originally Posted by charger69

but then again, I have never been with anyone like BIB!
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May want to keep that under wraps.....

**charger69** · 04-26-2018, 07:06 PM

Originally Posted by kelkel

May want to keep that under wraps.....

I guess that did not come out the way I wanted it to.

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**kelkel** · 04-26-2018, 07:10 PM

Originally Posted by charger69

I guess that did not come out the way I wanted it to.

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**charger69** · 04-27-2018, 03:20 PM

Originally Posted by BG

Your thinking is 100% correct.

Body building is a way of life..........but can not get in the way of your life.

I told my wife that this would be my last year competing.......... I lied not knowing it at the time. I just cannot stop. I am improving year after year. Theoretically I should be getting worse because of my age.
The new information that I obtained this year is like breakthrough technology for me. Now I need to see what I can do with it.

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**kelkel** · 04-27-2018, 07:27 PM

Originally Posted by charger69

Theoretically I should be getting worse because of my age.
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Stop with that shit right now.

**MuscleScience** · 04-27-2018, 08:54 PM

Originally Posted by BG

Your thinking is 100% correct.

Body building is a way of life..........but can not get in the way of your life.

That’s going on my signature. Another Gem BG.

BG · 04-28-2018, 11:23 AM

Lol I try brother

**charger69** · 12-30-2018, 05:04 PM

NPC #2 in 2019!
I’m like fine wine...: I get better with age! LOL
I will be coming with a new improved version. I still have weaknesses, but I make them smaller each year.
Wifey does not like me competing because I am so dedicated. She actually called me “obsessed”.

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