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    Bunk GH

    GH from GearPro

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    As of 3/10/18 a full refund has been issued and the product will be en route to independent testing paid for by source. They stood behind their name and made good plus some. Just wanted to update as I agreed I would with the resolution.
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    Really hate to hear that, Trail.
    For now, I'm sticking with Saizen or even better, Serostim. I really like that EMD Serono has a handy app for scanning their meds via the 2D barcodes so you can verify authenticity.
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    Quote Originally Posted by almostgone View Post
    Really hate to hear that, Trail.
    For now, I'm sticking with Saizen or even better, Serostim. I really like that EMD Serono has a handy app for scanning their meds via the 2D barcodes so you can verify authenticity.
    Thanks, man. No one to blame but myself - part of the risk. Just a bummer to know that for the price I am out I could have had liposuction and gotten more benefit ffs. I’ve looked at some eurotropin and heard good things but not sure I can afford. Especially now.

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    Quote Originally Posted by TrailRunAZ View Post
    Thanks, man. No one to blame but myself - part of the risk. Just a bummer to know that for the price I am out I could have had liposuction and gotten more benefit ffs. I’ve looked at some eurotropin and heard good things but not sure I can afford. Especially now.
    I know what you mean. I have to really budget $$ and give up a few things in order to run a low dosage.
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    Follow up note - notified GearPro of results with pictures via email with two follow up emails and ample to to reply - received no response. They check email regularly and respond immediately with inquiries and order info so the issue has been seen and ignored. For now I would simply urge anyone/everyone to avoid GearPro and put them down as scammers.

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    You would think that with all the info out there on the net. That these sources would not get by for long scamming and sending out fake product.
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    Quote Originally Posted by MuscleScience View Post
    You would think that with all the info out there on the net. That these sources would not get by for long scamming and sending out fake product.
    As long as there is someone to buy it they will sell it. In this case it was me. Has been a trusted source in the past which just shows that sources are in constant need of review and confirmation as they can go bad at any time. Won’t trust any of the gear here and done with GH regardless of source. This was a bad burn so I hope he’s enjoying the crack and hookers while they last.

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    Great response to a post about the bad product by a rep - apparently this product is used by the pros, who knew?!?!

    I think I’ve just been Tonya’d

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    Quote Originally Posted by TrailRunAZ View Post
    Great response to a post about the bad product by a rep - apparently this product is used by the pros, who knew?!?!

    I think I’ve just been Tonya’d

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    Wow, talk about a shitty rep. Don’t respond or look into it other than saying you getting F’d over doesn’t matter because you will be banned so no one else can be warned.
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    fwiw,

    i saw a video on YouTube explaining how, all hgh is going to be bunk or spoiled real or not by the time it gets to you other than in pen form.

    even then its got a 14-21 day shelf life once out of refrigeration.

    the guy explained how the biggest hurdles in manufacture of real HGH, were never over came until some technology regarding pens.

    they explained how real hgh powder needs constant refrigeration from the very second its made job until injection.

    he also explained that there is no way these suppliers are able to maintain temp to keep it viable, and even if so, and not shipped cold pack overnight, its going to be DOA no matter what.

    he was pretty convincing

    I'm trying to find the video.

    it was an Indian looming guy who's channel was something or another guru. cant remember.

    he was saying even just one drop of water should dissolve the whole bit of powder and it should never be pressed in a puck. that hgh should kinda have shine to not and kinda climb the vial if real.

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    Only GH I see in my future is Cialis.

    Quote Originally Posted by m.hornbuckle View Post
    fwiw,

    i saw a video on YouTube explaining how, all hgh is going to be bunk or spoiled real or not by the time it gets to you other than in pen form.

    even then its got a 14-21 day shelf life once out of refrigeration.

    the guy explained how the biggest hurdles in manufacture of real HGH, were never over came until some technology regarding pens.

    they explained how real hgh powder needs constant refrigeration from the very second its made job until injection.

    he also explained that there is no way these suppliers are able to maintain temp to keep it viable, and even if so, and not shipped cold pack overnight, its going to be DOA no matter what.

    he was pretty convincing

    I'm trying to find the video.

    it was an Indian looming guy who's channel was something or another guru. cant remember.

    he was saying even just one drop of water should dissolve the whole bit of powder and it should never be pressed in a puck. that hgh should kinda have shine to not and kinda climb the vial if real.

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    Quote Originally Posted by TrailRunAZ View Post
    Only GH I see in my future is Cialis.
    https://youtu.be/-2QbdB2Uezs

    here it is.

    give it a watch, seems to know his stuff.

    opinions on his video, is like to hear.

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    Quote Originally Posted by m.hornbuckle View Post
    fwiw,

    i saw a video on YouTube explaining how, all hgh is going to be bunk or spoiled real or not by the time it gets to you other than in pen form.

    even then its got a 14-21 day shelf life once out of refrigeration.

    the guy explained how the biggest hurdles in manufacture of real HGH, were never over came until some technology regarding pens.

    they explained how real hgh powder needs constant refrigeration from the very second its made job until injection.

    he also explained that there is no way these suppliers are able to maintain temp to keep it viable, and even if so, and not shipped cold pack overnight, its going to be DOA no matter what.

    he was pretty convincing

    I'm trying to find the video.

    it was an Indian looming guy who's channel was something or another guru. cant remember.

    he was saying even just one drop of water should dissolve the whole bit of powder and it should never be pressed in a puck. that hgh should kinda have shine to not and kinda climb the vial if real.
    That's not 100% accurate. Serostim is to be stored @ room temperature prior to reconstitution per MerckSerono's information pamphlet. I do agree that the lyophilized wafer should dissolve easily. Run a Google on Serostim storage and the first result will be .gov .pdf that contains this information.
    Not hacking on the guy you are talking about, but you have to really watch some of these "internet gurus".


    Edit: Here's a copy and.paste from the document I referenced.

    Before reconstitution: Vials of Serostim® and diluent should be stored at room temperature,
    (15°-30°C/59°-86°F). Expiration dates are stated on product labels.
    After Reconstitution with Sterile Water for Injection, USP: The reconstituted solution should be
    used immediately and any unused portion should be discarded .
    After Reconstitution with Bacteriostatic Water for Injection, USP (0.9% Benzyl Alcohol): The
    reconstituted solution should be stored under refrigeration (2-8oC/36-46o F) for up to 14 days.
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    Quote Originally Posted by m.hornbuckle View Post
    https://youtu.be/-2QbdB2Uezs

    here it is.

    give it a watch, seems to know his stuff.

    opinions on his video, is like to hear.
    See my previous post.
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    Quote Originally Posted by TrailRunAZ View Post
    Great response to a post about the bad product by a rep - apparently this product is used by the pros, who knew?!?!

    I think I’ve just been Tonya’d

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    You really have to.watch the generic GH. From what I've been told there are some legit batches, but then again PPL GH came back.as containing 6 i.u. vs. the advertised/labeled claims of 10 i.u. (there are testing services still available for HPLC, mass spectrometry, etc.).
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    Quote Originally Posted by m.hornbuckle View Post
    https://youtu.be/-2QbdB2Uezs

    here it is.

    give it a watch, seems to know his stuff.

    opinions on his video, is like to hear.
    just FYI - That is Guru Ameen Alai . one of the best in the business. He coached and prepped guys in the 90s like King Kamali, Craig Titus, etc..

    Saying he 'knows his stuff' is an under statement.

    of course in this vid he is only throwing out an 'opinion' on HGH then he is giving any scientific evidence .
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    So in fairness I am posting an update. GearPro has been in touch and said they want to rectify the situation. They have forwarded the email to the lab I sent to GP regarding the positive pregnancy test on the GH, and it was matter of fact, not flaming. But not sure what the lab can possible say that would account for the test. Even if they offered to replace I would not want it and I don’t want to have to burn a couple of IUs from every vial to test it, or nonsense like that.
    I just wanted to update here as I am trying to be fair and honest. Hard to be chill considering the chunk of change, but as they say, never spend more money on ordering gear than you can afford to lose.
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    Quote Originally Posted by TrailRunAZ View Post
    So in fairness I am posting an update. GearPro has been in touch and said they want to rectify the situation. They have forwarded the email to the lab I sent to GP regarding the positive pregnancy test on the GH, and it was matter of fact, not flaming. But not sure what the lab can possible say that would account for the test. Even if they offered to replace I would not want it and I don’t want to have to burn a couple of IUs from every vial to test it, or nonsense like that.
    I just wanted to update here as I am trying to be fair and honest. Hard to be chill considering the chunk of change, but as they say, never spend more money on ordering gear than you can afford to lose.
    You are definitely being more than decent about it, Trail. Maybe they can give you store credit or something?
    Do they carry anything else you might want? If so, I would sure push for it. You've been much more fair and aboveboard than many people are!
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    Quote Originally Posted by almostgone View Post
    You are definitely being more than decent about it, Trail. Maybe they can give you store credit or something?
    Do they carry anything else you might want? If so, I would sure push for it. You've been much more fair and aboveboard than many people are!
    Hey, thanks. GP made good with full refund on store credit and is having the GH checked out independently. I’ll post up another thread to post resolution as I agreed to do that with the credit. No reason to think the BioTech oils are not good as they have been stellar for years and he is as concerned about the GH as I was. So all good.

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    Quote Originally Posted by TrailRunAZ View Post
    Hey, thanks. GP made good with full refund on store credit and is having the GH checked out independently. I’ll post up another thread to post resolution as I agreed to do that with the credit. No reason to think the BioTech oils are not good as they have been stellar for years and he is as concerned about the GH as I was. So all good.
    Awesome, Trail! Still sorry the GH didn't work out, but maybe something better will come along. If.ylu can get any of Serostim or Saizen I am having really good results from it. The musculotaneous nerve entrapment seems to be improving faster now, which tickles the sh!t out of me. When my Dr. explained that in general nerve/myelin regeneration happens at the rate of roughly 1" per month, I was pretty bummed.
    My IGF-1 is banging as well; 407 w/ a reference range of 61-200 ng/mL.

    Edit: Just for reference, my dosage fluctuates between ~ 1.8 - 2.5 iu, depending on whether I grab a Serostim vial or use one of my 20mg Saizen cartridges.
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    Quote Originally Posted by TrailRunAZ View Post
    ... for the price I am out I could have had liposuction and gotten more benefit ffs. I’ve looked at some eurotropin and heard good things but not sure I can afford. Especially now.
    ???

    Liposuction is expensive. Man,...hope you got your money back. My CC company wouldn't allow that chit to happen.

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    Quote Originally Posted by tcw View Post
    ???

    Liposuction is expensive. Man,...hope you got your money back. My CC company wouldn't allow that chit to happen.
    Yep, full refund/credit. Just needed to give it some time

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    Sorry to hear this Trail but in future stay clear of generics no matter who tells certain ones are good they do swap and change the product and usually ends up it costing us. Seek a quality pharm grade source and stick with it they are hard to come by but in certain countries they are readily available but they do cost a small fortune.
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    There is legit generics out there (TP) To find them youll have to branch out. There are extremely knowledgeable people out there that aaare testing hgh. And i dont mean igf or serum tests. This will always be my home forum. But i had to branch out to get a better understanding of what is out there. This is an outstanding forum. But there are certain bias on EVERY forum. To get the whole story or picture you need to be a member on multiple forums.

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