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Kinda tired of having only access to UGL test.
I live in Europe and wish I could order some Pharma grade test instead.
I've been looking for pharma grade test but didn't found any trusted seller yet.
I do have access to ten different UGL brands but don't know if I can really trust them.
IF anyone could help me on this subject I would be grateful. You can send me a PM also.
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Read the forum rules. This is not a source board.Originally Posted by Mula
You are inviting people to scam you. There is nothing wrong UGL test - just get bloodwork to validate.
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Agreed. My UGL gear has always been top notch. You can know for sure by bloodwork
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That's the thing, I don't want to take the risk of shooting crap in me before doing a blood test.Agreed. My UGL gear has always been top notch. You can know for sure by bloodwork
So many brands out here in Europe and I read both negative and positive feedback about them.
Some people say test is one of the compounds that's the least fake? Is that true? I still have my doubts about purity.
I didn't mean to suggest buying from someone here either I'm not buying anything through anyone on here just looking for genuine advice on UGL brands. Thanks for watching out though.
Last edited by Mula; 09-05-2019 at 02:01 PM.
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getting "pharma grade" quality test in Europe should not be a problem at all.. I'm in the US , and most of the stuff I order has to come from Europe or the Middle East to begin with. heck your already over there . can't you take a 2 hour airplane ride and go buy pharma grade gear over the counter ?
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Can we discuss brands here or not? If so which ones do you know except bayer?
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can discuss brands, just not direct sources..
umm , bayer is not that hard to get. thats the test I'm running now
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yeah I'm also surprised that you're in Europe and having a hard time finding pharma grade steroids. That's where most people are getting theirs.
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Except for the Nordic countries getting Test within the EU, borders are very easy to procure. I lived in East Germany for a few years in a town called Jena (Anyone who knows what that town is famous for in the old East Block gets a gold star). I would suggest Romania as a good source. Create a good relationship with a Pharmacist, and he will keep sending you things.
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Actually, sources can be discussed in the brand/UGL section. The only caveat is no contact information such as email addys, web addys/ URLs, or lists can be posted.can discuss brands, just not direct sources..
umm , bayer is not that hard to get. thats the test I'm running now
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Buddy of mine flew to Latvia, walked into a side-street clinic and asked for test cyp. Got a prescription and bought the gear, no questions asked. Keep the prescription as you fly back, in case customs check your luggage. Obviously doesn't work if you want to buy huge amounts.
Same story in Turkey. I assume Romania and Bulgaria are not overly strict either.
If you're concerned of quality, why don't you buy UGL test and send it to Janoshik for testing? Are you concerned about underdosing? Bacterial infection? Other compounds mixed in (since test is dirt cheap, makes no sense to diluted it with primo...)?
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Cool, I always had the feeling that is one of the best brands. Just not sure where to order it from. I have encountered some sources but i'm not sure if it's 100% legit. Sometimes i gets faked...
I live in Belgium. Currently i have very easy acces to UGL labs like: Mactropin, Shield Pharma, Cooper Pharma
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Cool, I always had the feeling that is one of the best brands. Just not sure where to order it from. I have encountered some sources but i'm not sure if it's 100% legit. Sometimes bayer gets faked unfortunately...can discuss brands, just not direct sources..
umm , bayer is not that hard to get. thats the test I'm running now
I live in Belgium. Currently i have very easy acces to UGL labs like: Mactropin, Shield Pharma, Cooper Pharma
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with pharma brands like this I've had best luck from Spain and Turkey .. believe there are more fakes done in places like Asia and Thailand
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Birthplace of Marx?
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HQ for Jena Pharma and the place where the state sponsored doping program for the East Block was run from.
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Jena was the sight of a major battle in the Napoleonic wars...that’s all I know about it
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Guys be aware alot of fakes coming from bulgaria it is mecca of fakes!
bayer testo
bayer primo
etc etc
real pharma products the prices in europe isnt cheap!
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not sure why anyone would bother making fake test now days.. the raw powder is so cheap . it probably costs less to make legit test then it does to produce a fake counterfeit .
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Literally all of your 41 posts are either bashing a company or deepthroating Dragon Pharma.
It costs more in shipping producing Testosterone.
What's your laxative cycle protocol? I'd love to spew projectile shit out of my ass too.
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HAHAHAHAHA. I am so glad I am not the only one who noticed his BS.
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Lmao!! Windex made a joke and it was really funny! That was a good one! Laxative cycle...lmao
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Bayer was part of the company that made the cyanide that the Nazis used in the concentration camp's gas chambers.
Seriously.
Zyklon B was made by an umbrella corporation called IG Farben. After WWII, IG Farben was dissolved and Bayer AG was one of just three of its subsidiaries that was allowed to remain in business. And a great many of the IG Farben executives wound up at Bayer. I don't even buy their aspirin, but I'm funny that way.
Then again, the US being the first country to land on the moon had a great deal to do with all the Nazi rocket scientists we took into custody (before the godless communists could get their hands on them) and who were the bedrock of NASA's lunar program.
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I'm based in the Netherlands, anyone heard of ugl brands: Mactropin, Shield Pharma, Cooper Pharma ???
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If the Cooper is legit, their test prop is good.
Since this is leaning towards UGL/ brand name I'm going to move it to that area of the forum.
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Wich company did i bash?
So are you telling me there isnt fake bayer testo in europe? and most of the pharmagrade is fakes when its dirt cheap ? you obviously have no idea about the counterfeit market there is from bulgaria ;-)
and did i bash balkan pharma or pharmacom you should read again
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yeah bayer gets often faked unfortunately i saw some post lately from people showing their fake bayer purchases.
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You should be able to source pharma fairly easily. Are you in the UK? Q pharma Testex was readily available as well as Cooper test prop unless things have changed a good bit.
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Let’s not forget about good old IBM. Who do you think gave the Nazis the computers to keep intricate tract of just what percentage a person was Jewish in all of the countries they took over. Got to hand it to them, they took great pride in detail. Great book - “IBM and the Holocaust”.
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#holocaustIsFakeNews
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No more otc in Romania since mid 2000. But easy access to Balkan and other pharma grade stuff.( like adex, clomid, pregnyl and dostinex which i get straight from the pharmacy).. As far as Ugl, Right now Pharma Med is the best you can get.
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Pharma or ugl,
Its pretty much the same . You just have to find a reputable source.
If you don't trust your ugl find another.
They're are plenty of places that sell fake "pharma" so yeah....
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^^^ I prefer my UGL in some cases. I think they may put MORE effort in than pharma. A lot of pharm grade stuff is suspended in cotton seed oil, because it’s inexpensive. A good UGL might use MCT oil. Or they throw in some goodies. Little things like that go a long way.
Not to mention it’s like supporting your local mom & pop shop, instead of going to Walmart.
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Didn't see it like that ... Those are some very good points.
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Customer service is big too. You think Bayer gives a shit about one of the 2 billion people using their stuff? Phizer probably isn’t throwing in free shipping, and UpJohn isn’t throwing in a few vials of “XYZ” just because.
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No sarcasm, you make me think man, haha. Didn't even think about that.
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Wow seriously I never thought of that either!!! I will say I've been very happy with my supplier. I kept getting yanked around by my endo that said 248 is normal even though I had major ED and no drive. I finally got fed up and found a supplier that I thought would be good and I guess I got lucky.
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Yeah, 248 is probably acceptably normal if you’re 90. Go ahead and add a zero to the end of that for me. Maybe a couple zeros.
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