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So i got a hgh serum done for these bluetops, my growth hormone levels came back high and over the range but my igf levels were still in the ref range. I do not have a base level for either so its hard to tell. I have seen this around when others have tested different generics, there growth hormone levels will be high but no igf levels increased, what is wrong with these bluetops?
at what time did you get IGF levels done? IGF levels wont remain elevated until weeks of use. unless you test about 3 hours after pinning
i know guys in asia whod buy blues from china and send to Australia . they were all sh*tQuote:
Originally Posted by Hephens
they get doctor prescriptions in asia so they could take them in
blue tops are shit. I dont know why people waste their money. And then wonder why they have issues with them after. Everyone has been warned a million times about them
you probably did the damn test wrong. what did you do?Quote:
Originally Posted by Hephens
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I like my blue tops (rips) :)
damn those are nice numbers!
ghrh/ghrp come back in bloodwork as high gh serum, baseline igf same as your results
something to think about before you spend any more cash
I have rips that apparently tested very high on the gh serum test and I can tell you right now after starting genotropin that my rips are not real. In fact I knew it before I started the genotropin. I take the rips and instantly get bloated and can't breathe right, and don't sleep any better. I'm not sure what they put in those rips but it aint hgh
I didnt know this :( , i wouldnt think the numbers wuold be that high. Thanks for the Good info Dan!Quote:
Originally Posted by DanB
I am always weary when I see labs of x i.u rips testing 2-3x's higher on a serum test then the equilivent dose of pharm, to me that is all the proof I need, they simply too good to be trueQuote:
Originally Posted by Angel of death
this board made me give up on hgh
and rightfully so
Yeah dude rips are good shit now. I'm on 4ius a day.
I was on them for 2-3weeks before being tested, pinned 10iu and waited 3hrs before blood drawn. My growth hormone levels were high, igf wasn't. Than again i don't have a base line but from 10iu it should have raised it very high.
Rips are absoulte trash i dont care what ur serum test comes back as they are garbage and i have tried the ones from tp so dont think i havent tried the so called great ones utter trashQuote:
Originally Posted by Bigherm21
i bet good money they just peps in the vial, they give similar bw that the rips are giving, bulk peps cost pennys, relabel them and you got license to make big $$$$$Quote:
Originally Posted by cyounger100
do you have proof of that?Quote:
Originally Posted by DanB
that peps are in the vial? no, i dont, just using logic and info from those wiser then myself
i would bet it is peps. i couldn't sleep on rips and i couldn't sleep on mod-grf1 so its a possibility
no i mean do you have any lab results of someone injecting cjc w/ghrp and it showing elevated gh levels up in the 20's and up? i highly doubt that injecting ghrp would give someone that big of a pulse of gh.Quote:
Originally Posted by DanB
are you not on other forums? there has been several done recently on other forums, have you looked into peps much? peps give substantially higher pulse at saturation dose then 7.5 i.u i.v hgh but for shorter duration according to what datbtrue has found as shown in second pic
cant post the link its a source board, pm me if you want it
http://i108.photobucket.com/albums/n...i/c0dd296a.jpg
http://www.datbtrue.co.uk/forums/images/pulse.jpg
that lab doesn't show IGF levels. and when i got my bloodwork done, i waited 3 1/2 hours until i got blood drawn, because that is when hgh injections peak, but if you look at ghrp, it peaks at 30 minutes. EVERYONE who is smart, gets their BW done 3 1/2 hours after they inject 10 IU in their delt. ghrp wouldn't even show up after 3 1/2 hours according to that chart lol.Quote:
Originally Posted by DanB
like I said its i.v in the chart and again I said it dosnt raise igf, well it does but not systemic igf so hence why no increase in peoples igf bw but increase in gh serum when they test some generic hgh which is my orginal point in response to the op's question, the labwork shows the serum spike from peps which you asked to see and the chart was meant to show the contrast in peps vs hgh as at your own admission you didnt seem to really know what peps done, what are you talking about igf it not what you disagreed with orginally so what are you trying to dispute?Quote:
Originally Posted by kaptainkeezy04
you're right my bad! you never said it raised igf.Quote:
Originally Posted by DanB
Agreed, why on earth people still buying cheap generics.....Quote:
Originally Posted by DanB
No source for pharm grade
or people are just lazy and dont want to spend the time researching and getting a source . so they just get it from 'some guy in the gym ' or the online equivalent
if you dont you dont. So you dont use fake garbage just to say you are using ghQuote:
Originally Posted by patrick4588