First cycle ever/Log

[Zanyon]

Stats:
19 Years old
6' 1"
215 lbs

Cycle info:
Test Propionate 125 mg 3 times per week (Monday - Wednesday - Friday) -- 375 mg weekly
40 mg of Anavar daily.
40 mg of Winstrol daily.
1 Pill of liver protection daily (before bed)
Started the cycle at 29/5/2018
The test should last me for 10 weeks, and the pills approx 8.

I know that dosages might be a little bit too low, I just don't want to risk anything, I'd rather play it safe.

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Day 1:

I went to my gym and picked up the gear from my personal trainer, he instructed me to go to my local pharmacy which happened to be like 5 minutes away from the gym and get some syringes so that I can start my cycle and he'd show me how to do the injections. To be completely honest I was very nervous, I picked up the syringes and my trainer showed me how to do the test shots, he did the first one carefully and showed me how to do it. He also said that once I hit week 3 I should get some nolva and something else from the local pharmacy, unfortunately I don't remember the name of the second compound, I know what nolva is, but I guess the second one is to counter the side effects I suppose? Once I hit week 3, I'll visit my pharmacy and get the stuff. Even after my trainer's instructions on how to do the shots, I just felt that I'd be unable to do them on my own, but I had to, as I would travel soon and go on a long vacation for 2 months +, I'd be away from my trainer and I'd be training at a different gym. So, after the shot, I trained normally, spent my day at home and went to bed.

Day 2:

Woke up today and I realized that my butt kind of hurts near the injection site, I googled it up and people said that it is normal because my muscles have to get used of the fluid or something, it's been already 5 hours since I woke up and I feel like the pain is starting to subside, it only hurts a little bit when I sit on it. I took the winstrol and anavar pills as I woke up normally, prepared my breakfast as I am on a diet & trying to cut, and soon I'll hit the gym. Tomorrow I'll have to inject again, and I'll have to do it on my own, I am quite nervous, listened to my trainer's instructions, and watched plenty of youtube videos. I am not afraid of needles, but it's weird doing it for the first time, I just hope that I don't screw anything up.

[hollowedzeus]

Im not going to clutter your log with warnings but know that you can pm anytime if you want to talk about the implications for young men like us. I am 19 anf on testosterone for the rest of my life. Up till i found out about cialis i couldnt get a hard on or have sex. This could be you. Ill link some good reading when i get a chance.

Any trainer that gives a 19 year old body chemistry altering drugs should be questioned. Be as dafe as you can or stop right now. You will get plenty of gains naturally trust me. You are a few injections away from shutdown and the point of no return.

Apologies if its not what youd like to hear but its the truth.

[Zanyon]

Im not going to clutter your log with warnings but know that you can pm anytime if you want to talk about the implications for young men like us. I am 19 anf on testosterone for the rest of my life. Up till i found out about cialis i couldnt get a hard on or have sex. This could be you. Ill link some good reading when i get a chance.

Any trainer that gives a 19 year old body chemistry altering drugs should be questioned. Be as dafe as you can or stop right now. You will get plenty of gains naturally trust me. You are a few injections away from shutdown and the point of no return.

Apologies if its not what youd like to hear but its the truth.

Greetings buddy!

I know what you are saying, and I do understand the risks, I’m just the type of person that has always wanted to try this, I really love the gym, I’ve been training since I was really young, and at some point I wish to get on that stage and compete. The reason why I wanted to try this is because I wanna see how my body will react to it and how I’m going to look. I know that this is quite risky, and to be completely honest I am worried, I’d be lying if I tell you that I am not, but I’ll try to do this in the safest way possible, and if I see that in the future after the first cycle this isn’t for me, I’ll just stop. I’m just hoping that if I don’t overdo it and I play it safe it’ll be ok, at least for this cycle, with proper PCT.

Also, dont apologize. I made this thread so that people can give their honest opinion about the matter, and because I wish to broaden my horizons and learn things. As long as it is constructive feedback then I’ll accept it, yours was, and thank you for taking your time to reply to a youngster. I would also like to ask you, for pct my trainer says I should only use nolva, and also says that on the third week of the cycle I should start using it aswell to counter the sides, he literally said that he’d kill me if I don’t, so what’s your opinion on the matter?

Appreciate it !!

[hollowedzeus]

Im glad youre open to criticism you will do well here with a good attitude like that mate.
I do hope someone manages to change your mind if i cant however since the seriousness of the situation cant be emphasised enough. One small cycle COULD render your body unable to produce testosterone ever again the risk is amplified due to the fact the body is in a fragile state and any extra hormones could knock it off balance forever.
Think having your girlfriend in front of you expecting a BOOM and your sitting there with a softie about to burst into tears because you know all too well thats all you can muster. As a teenager it was a hard pill for me to swallow.

As far as pct, clomid and nolvadex is the preffered option, they work synergistically to kickstart the hpta.
Your trainer wants you to use nolva during the cycle to combat gyno. You should be using an aromatase inhibitor to keep estrogen down anyway. If you dont know what that is. Stop the cycle and educate yourself.

I question whether your trainer wants to help you or make money off you. Typically your drug dealer doesnt have your best interests at heart.

Aas doesnt go bad. You wont waste any money by waiting

[Zanyon]

Im glad youre open to criticism you will do well here with a good attitude like that mate.
I do hope someone manages to change your mind if i cant however since the seriousness of the situation cant be emphasised enough. One small cycle COULD render your body unable to produce testosterone ever again the risk is amplified due to the fact the body is in a fragile state and any extra hormones could knock it off balance forever.
Think having your girlfriend in front of you expecting a BOOM and your sitting there with a softie about to burst into tears because you know all too well thats all you can muster. As a teenager it was a hard pill for me to swallow.

As far as pct, clomid and nolvadex is the preffered option, they work synergistically to kickstart the hpta.
Your trainer wants you to use nolva during the cycle to combat gyno. You should be using an aromatase inhibitor to keep estrogen down anyway. If you dont know what that is. Stop the cycle and educate yourself.

I question whether your trainer wants to help you or make money off you. Typically your drug dealer doesnt have your best interests at heart.

Aas doesnt go bad. You wont waste any money by waiting

Hey hollow!

Yeah I know what you are saying and I am starting to get a little bit worried, I think the reason why I don't stop even after all of the warnings is because I am really into it I guess, that's immature, possibly, but yeah well... I wont stop posting on that log until it's over or until I stop, I'll include any issues and concerns, or any weird things that might happen during the cycle so that I can get help.

I think my trainer just wants to help me, he's been refusing to give me testosterone for 3 months, or any kind of steroids for that matter. I attended 2 bodybuilding contests with him, and it really got into me, and I felt like I wanted to get on that stage. So, I kind of convinced him. He told me that he'd be right beside me, and he'd help me out, he gave me really low dosages, even tho other retards at the gym insisted that I increase them, I did not. Yes, he said that a PCT is a MUST, and that during the cycle I should get nolva and some other compound, I guess it's AI's name that I don't remember, I know for a fact that he said 2 compounds, one was nolva, the other must have been an AI one. I'll ask him soon and let you guys know, regardless, he said that I should get these from week 3, so I've got plenty of time.

My bottle does have an expiration date, but I guess the expiration date is there because by law the drug has to contain the amount listed on the label. Past it's expiration date, it'll have a slightly reduce concentration but it is still safe to consume.

[hollowedzeus]

https://forums.steroid.com/anabolic-...%2A%2A%2A.html

https://forums.steroid.com/anabolic-...rst-cycle.html

Some good reads. Read the top one first.

Theres no subsitute to builiding a good hard solid natural based before starting gear and you are in the best place of your life to utilise your body to do so. It would be a shame in my opinion to pass it up.

Lol lots of ugls have nowhere near the stated dose on the bottle im sure.

Gear is fine years past its sell by as others on here have experienced.

[Magnum_RS]

There's no shame in quitting now and waiting. Your future self will thank you.
If you were fully aware of the risks like you say, you wouldn't be taking the risk in my opinion...