2nd cycle Test 300 + EQ 600

[Windex]

If you are happy with your results I would run Primobolan next time around.

[Littlearnie]

My uneducated brain would say your %20 rather than 12.

12% you’d see some lines for abs. In men to have a good looking 6 pack we need to be under 10% and woman can have it at basically double us.
That’s how I understand it anyway.
Abs is all I wanted back in the day!

[Littlearnie]

If you are happy with your results I would run Primobolan next time around.

I think I’m gonna add primo in next cycle too! It’s weird your the only one I’ve ever seen advise it lol.
Normally I see people say it’s all fake or an old steroid .
Primo looks like gold to me :/

[Family_guy]

I think I’m gonna add primo in next cycle too! It’s weird your the only one I’ve ever seen advise it lol.
Normally I see people say it’s all fake or an old steroid .
Primo looks like gold to me :/

I would love to try primo but god damn it’s so expensive! DHB is my next one to try

[tarmyg]

I added these pictures next to each other as I had a bit of a hard time to see the difference. Looks like some fat gain in the midsection and in the pecs but most likely some muscle underneath as it would be hard toi run a cycle with zero gain.

LEFT = Before
RIGHT = After

[Family_guy]

I added these pictures next to each other as I had a bit of a hard time to see the difference. Looks like some fat gain in the midsection and in the pecs but most likely some muscle underneath as it would be hard toi run a cycle with zero gain.

LEFT = Before
RIGHT = After

Great analysis and all but I guess I don’t understand what good this is doing

[tarmyg]

Great analysis and all but I guess I don’t understand what good this is doing

Isn't great information to know what one can expect running a comparable cycle? Makes it easier to evaluate different compounds based on real results, at least for me.

[Family_guy]

Isn't great information to know what one can expect running a comparable cycle? Makes it easier to evaluate different compounds based on real results, at least for me.

That makes sense. Of course everyone responds SO differently! But I get where your coming from

[tarmyg]

That makes sense. Of course everyone responds SO differently! But I get where your coming from

I think that everyone responds very differently is a bit of a misnomer. One can fairly closley predict where most people will fall when running cycles based on both science and anedcodtal evidence. Then, as always, there is of course outliers but that appears to be fairly rare compared to the amount of users.

[redz]

The bf is not lower in the second picture if anything it may be higher. Get the diet and trying dialed in and you’ll get much better results next time.

[Family_guy]

I think that everyone responds very differently is a bit of a misnomer. One can fairly closley predict where most people will fall when running cycles based on both science and anedcodtal evidence. Then, as always, there is of course outliers but that appears to be fairly rare compared to the amount of users.

Well think about any medication in the world. What works for one person may not work for me or you or the next guy. It’s only logical to think steroids would be the same right?

Ya the basic effects might be the same but some guys can’t handle tren at all. Some guys get terrible anxiety on EQ. Some guys think primo is trash. Anyways you might be right that it’s relatively rare. I think it’s very hard to compare apple to apple when diet, training, and genetics are so different form one guy to another.

[jackfrost88]

Lmao, I'll stop commenting after this since my thread is turning into a trash yard. The photo on the left is me with a tan, flexed and a better photo. the one on the right is me relaxed and pale as a wall. My shoulders are pulled back on the left one. Just a better picture. I should take similar one's for comparison's sake but I'm not using this thread to monitor progress, more to just update with what I am doing. It's amazing nobody can notice that.

I said that I made progress that I am happy with and is noticeable because I have. I went from 195 to 201 leaner and stronger than before. I take weekly weigh in, front, back and side photo's which I do not post because they are full body with my house in the background and I am on the internet. You guys are overly harsh critics which frankly has me not wanting to make another progress thread. Stop being so negative and looking for flaws and selectively comparing different images to say I gained fat or uneducated garbage like that. Reason why this is annoying to me is because I live in my own body, hired a coach recently and know where I have come.

[Family_guy]

Lmao, I'll stop commenting after this since my thread is turning into a trash yard. The photo on the left is me with a tan, flexed and a better photo. the one on the right is me relaxed and pale as a wall. My shoulders are pulled back on the left one. Just a better picture. I should take similar one's for comparison's sake but I'm not using this thread to monitor progress, more to just update with what I am doing. It's amazing nobody can notice that.

I said that I made progress that I am happy with and is noticeable because I have. I went from 195 to 201 leaner and stronger than before. I take weekly weigh in, front, back and side photo's which I do not post because they are full body with my house in the background and I am on the internet. You guys are overly harsh critics which frankly has me not wanting to make another progress thread. Stop being so negative and looking for flaws and selectively comparing different images to say I gained fat or uneducated garbage like that. Reason why this is annoying to me is because I live in my own body, hired a coach recently and know where I have come.

Hey man I followed you from the start of this and I saw the progress. Like I told you man you did a great job. Don’t be discouraged from posting another progress thread cuz some guy can’t be encouraging. Be stronger than this BS.

I got all kinds of shit from a certain mod for starting a cycle at only 154lbs. But I know where I stand and I’m happy with that. You sound happy with your progress and that’s really all that matters.

Please don’t let this turn you off from this forum man. There’s plenty of good guys here. There’s very few that don’t know how to be positive!

[KINGKONG]

Photos don’t show everything man..if your happy with your results, it’s all that matters!
Thanks for the pics and the thread it was interesting!

[Old Duffer]

True dat. Like any forum, you have to maneuver thru the manure to finally hook up with a supportive crowd. The world is full of internet bullies. Negative Nancys. Egotistical blowhards.

The rest of us apologize. Stick around. Hell, Join this next competition! Hang out with the fun crowd

[Family_guy]

True dat. Like any forum, you have to maneuver thru the manure to finally hook up with a supportive crowd. The world is full of internet bullies. Negative Nancys. Egotistical blowhards.

The rest of us apologize. Stick around. Hell, Join this next competition! Hang out with the fun crowd

Yes! I should have thought of that! Join the comp. a bunch of us did the last one and it was really fun. Your talking to the two last placers right here!

[charger69]

True dat. Like any forum, you have to maneuver thru the manure to finally hook up with a supportive crowd. The world is full of internet bullies. Negative Nancys. Egotistical blowhards.

The rest of us apologize. Stick around. Hell, Join this next competition! Hang out with the fun crowd

Join the comp man! Everyone is supportive, there is a little trash talk, but the friendly kind!
You will learn a lot about different cycles, diets and even yourself!

Trust me- if you do this, you will be very glad you did. I will be there rooting everyone on!

[Family_guy]

Join the comp man! Everyone is supportive, there is a little trash talk, but the friendly kind!
You will learn a lot about different cycles, diets and even yourself!

Trust me- if you do this, you will be very glad you did. I will be there rooting everyone on!

Ya man. I got convinced to do the last one and I was actually really self conscious about my skinny white body so I didn’t want so it at first! But by the time it was over I had made some good friends and really enjoyed it

[charger69]

Ya man. I got convinced to do the last one and I was actually really self conscious about my skinny white body so I didn’t want so it at first! But by the time it was over I had made some good friends and really enjoyed it

And now he is just an ordinary gay person. LOL


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[balance]

OP

Don’t be discouraged you made positive progress and you know it, that’s what counts. Something I would like to focus on no one has mentioned (other than you) is you made very noticeable/measurable strength increases. While you stated your goal was not necessarily strength increases (goal was aesthetics oriented iirc) these strength increases will definitely show up in your physique it just takes time. Keep trying to lift heavy even off cycle to give new muscle tissue the reason to stick around.

And to the guys here being negative I would like you to consider OP is
DL 2.5 times bodyweight for reps. That’s impressive to say the least. Keep lifting like this and eating and your body will have no choice but to grow.

OP this has been a great documentation of your run and look forward to your continued progress and updates.

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[jackfrost88]

True dat. Like any forum, you have to maneuver thru the manure to finally hook up with a supportive crowd. The world is full of internet bullies. Negative Nancys. Egotistical blowhards.

The rest of us apologize. Stick around. Hell, Join this next competition! Hang out with the fun crowd

When does the next competition start?

[Old Duffer]

https://forums.steroid.com/anabolic-...ml#post7463371

[Family_guy]

When does the next competition start?

It’s starting soon! I think June 1st or 3rd

[Family_guy]

And now he is just an ordinary gay person. LOL


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There’s nothing ordinary about me

[Obs]

Lmao, I'll stop commenting after this since my thread is turning into a trash yard. The photo on the left is me with a tan, flexed and a better photo. the one on the right is me relaxed and pale as a wall. My shoulders are pulled back on the left one. Just a better picture. I should take similar one's for comparison's sake but I'm not using this thread to monitor progress, more to just update with what I am doing. It's amazing nobody can notice that.

I said that I made progress that I am happy with and is noticeable because I have. I went from 195 to 201 leaner and stronger than before. I take weekly weigh in, front, back and side photo's which I do not post because they are full body with my house in the background and I am on the internet. You guys are overly harsh critics which frankly has me not wanting to make another progress thread. Stop being so negative and looking for flaws and selectively comparing different images to say I gained fat or uneducated garbage like that. Reason why this is annoying to me is because I live in my own body, hired a coach recently and know where I have come.

Dont stop brother.
You are doing fine and any downers are just trying to deal with personal inadequacies in a destructive way.

You are happy keep moving forward.
No sense giving up here.
I took a hurricane of shit from the board when I came back. I gave it back though.
Actually helped motivate me to prove people wrong.

Then I became an addict.
Now I have long term goals.
If I dont meet them then I look like an ass but I will.
Then they will look like asses.

I will probably be the only fucker here talking to myself about my day but I will know the truth by Gawd!

[tarmyg]

I am not sure what just happened in this thread, but if this is an example of too harsh or harmful behavior we have, in my opinion, moved into a territory of not making useful comments. If all we do is applaud cycles, diets, and whatnot because someone feels happy about it, how will anyone ever be able to optimize and improve things? While I think Obs is correct in many of his posts of past behaviors being somewhat "parrot" like in just repeating the same advice over and over going in the other direction is, as I see it, not useful.

Secondly, have the board now gotten so sensitive that feedback that is not directly encouraging should be stopped and considered trolling we have a real problem on our hands. I do apologize to the OP for using his post as an example, but the comments made by Redz was his subjective opinion based on what he saw, nothing more, nothing less. There is no need to get into an argument about it as personal views are just that. One could easily say, thank you for your input and move on, but instead, we are now focusing on some negativity that is, apparently, rampant because not everyone is kumbaya about every post made.

[Obs]

I am not sure what just happened in this thread, but if this is an example of too harsh or harmful behavior we have, in my opinion, moved into a territory of not making useful comments. If all we do is applaud cycles, diets, and whatnot because someone feels happy about it, how will anyone ever be able to optimize and improve things? While I think Obs is correct in many of his posts of past behaviors being somewhat "parrot" like in just repeating the same advice over and over going in the other direction is, as I see it, not useful.

Secondly, have the board now gotten so sensitive that feedback that is not directly encouraging should be stopped and considered trolling we have a real problem on our hands. I do apologize to the OP for using his post as an example, but the comments made by Redz was his subjective opinion based on what he saw, nothing more, nothing less. There is no need to get into an argument about it as personal views are just that. One could easily say, thank you for your input and move on, but instead, we are now focusing on some negativity that is, apparently, rampant because not everyone is kumbaya about every post made.

Nvm...

[Obs]

Nevermind.
Everyone would be gone

[Obs]

I thought tarmyg was windex.
My apologies kinda

[Obs]

Attachment 176698

My mommys daily bible verse she texts me every day. It fits.

[tarmyg]

I thought tarmyg was windex.
My apologies kinda

I'm going to frame this, you know that right? :-)

[Obs]

I'm going to frame this, you know that right? :-)

Cant be vengeful or angry after watching this.

[jackfrost88]

I am not sure what just happened in this thread, but if this is an example of too harsh or harmful behavior we have, in my opinion, moved into a territory of not making useful comments. If all we do is applaud cycles, diets, and whatnot because someone feels happy about it, how will anyone ever be able to optimize and improve things? While I think Obs is correct in many of his posts of past behaviors being somewhat "parrot" like in just repeating the same advice over and over going in the other direction is, as I see it, not useful.

Secondly, have the board now gotten so sensitive that feedback that is not directly encouraging should be stopped and considered trolling we have a real problem on our hands. I do apologize to the OP for using his post as an example, but the comments made by Redz was his subjective opinion based on what he saw, nothing more, nothing less. There is no need to get into an argument about it as personal views are just that. One could easily say, thank you for your input and move on, but instead, we are now focusing on some negativity that is, apparently, rampant because not everyone is kumbaya about every post made.

Never asked for fake compliments or encouragement. However, posting up two completely different photo's taken out of context to try and convince me that I gained fat and made no gains is not productive and I assume you know what you are doing and being a troll. Basically your calling me a liar based on a couple photo's which I provided. Getting in a fight about body fat %'s using an online photo comparison which is the most biased one I could find on google images is also non productive. Instead of saying something constructive and or offering advice you and that other guy chose to just try and tear me down. Your being a hater with nothing of value to add - hence being a troll.

[Obs]

Never asked for fake compliments or encouragement. However, posting up two completely different photo's taken out of context to try and convince me that I gained fat and made no gains is not productive and I assume you know what you are doing and being a troll. Basically your calling me a liar based on a couple photo's which I provided. Getting in a fight about body fat %'s using an online photo comparison which is the most biased one I could find on google images is also non productive. Instead of saying something constructive and or offering advice you and that other guy chose to just try and tear me down. Your being a hater with nothing of value to add - hence being a troll.

Don't be discouraged brother.
You did great. That was a light cycle and pictures lie anyway. Lighting was totally different.
I can't get my camera to tell the truth but get a little better at taking them every day. What matters is what you know and see.

[tarmyg]

Never asked for fake compliments or encouragement. However, posting up two completely different photo's taken out of context to try and convince me that I gained fat and made no gains is not productive and I assume you know what you are doing and being a troll. Basically your calling me a liar based on a couple photo's which I provided. Getting in a fight about body fat %'s using an online photo comparison which is the most biased one I could find on google images is also non productive. Instead of saying something constructive and or offering advice you and that other guy chose to just try and tear me down. Your being a hater with nothing of value to add - hence being a troll.

I take it reading comprehension is not your strong suit? Not sure why you decided to unload you lifes frustration in this specific moment but I'll leave you alone from now on as It's clear I will not be able to contribute anything useful to your time on this board.

[jackfrost88]

I take it reading comprehension is not your strong suit? Not sure why you decided to unload you lifes frustration in this specific moment but I'll leave you alone from now on as It's clear I will not be able to contribute anything useful to your time on this board.

Not unloading anything brother. Calling out some BS when I see it. I addressed specifically what my issue was with your comments and instead of offering anything constructive (again) you chose to attack me (again) and say I will not add anything useful on my time on this board (broad generalization). Yes please leave me alone lol.

[Windex]

Tone and intent is hard to convey via a forum post. I feel like if it was a conversation in real life the perception would be completely different here.

Like I said earlier - If you are happy with your results I'd highly recommending investing in Primobolan next cycle. I think you would enjoy the compound.

Something like 300mg Test 600mg Primo or 200mg Test + 800mg Primo. Could even do

TRT
400mg Masteron
600mg Primo

[jackfrost88]

Tone and intent is hard to convey via a forum post. I feel like if it was a conversation in real life the perception would be completely different here.

Like I said earlier - If you are happy with your results I'd highly recommending investing in Primobolan next cycle. I think you would enjoy the compound.

Something like 300mg Test 600mg Primo or 200mg Test + 800mg Primo. Could even do

TRT
400mg Masteron
600mg Primo

I was thinking something similar. Lot's of people love masteron, only concern for me would be hair shedding from a DHT compound.

[redz]

I stand by my assessment and I repeat you gained 6lbs and possibly kept bf the same or a little higher. I never said no gains. You are clearly insecure and I’m only trying to help. Others chimed in about bf% too but you want to believe what you want to believe.

[Windex]

I was thinking something similar. Lot's of people love masteron, only concern for me would be hair shedding from a DHT compound.

Male Pattern Baldness is a hereditary (genetics). Either you have it or don't - only way to really find out is run the compound.

As well, If you are willing to optimize your diet you will have more success in the future.