Originally Posted by
Glow2004
If anyone here are COWARDS it is those like you preaching how we should appease and kowtow to political correctness and not defend our cities against a possible nuclear strike from those that have threated us with using them. Be they large countries or little ones the threat with nukes is now very real. Cowards are those here that want to turn a blind eye to what is happening and not take action to but a stop to it.
I don't live in fear I live in the real world. I guess you don't remember 9/11 or the hundreds of other terrorist attacks being committed in the world against us by radical muslims?
Not withstanding your opinion and comment the analogy holds, your kind wants to stick their head in the sand while Iran builds a nuclear bomb and pretend it isn't happening.
Just like Germany did when the world KNEW they were rearming and chose to hope they would just use them for parades I guess?
Way to leave out that it's a "terrorist" problem that WE created by our MEDDLING IN THEIR AFFAIRS! If you would pull your head out of your ass and actually listen to the grievances of the people who attakced us, maybe you would have a more complete understanding of the political atmosphere and not the one which is spoon fed to you by your Command or the propagandized rhetoric spoon fed to you by the BBC or Fox News Network.
Osama Bin Laden made it clear why he attacked us. We have bases on their holy land in Saudi Arabia, we continually meddle in their affairs, and we sponsor the state of Israel which commits THOUSANDS of human rights violations against the Palestinian peoples!
Those are LEGITIMATE greivances against our government. They pre-date any terrorist attacks against the mainland of the US/UK. But according to your rhetoric, we can do whatever we please in the name of "stability" or some other such propagandized nonsense. You're probably also of the same crowd who believes people should sacrafice civil liberties in the name of "national security" or "safety."
I am more afraid of YOU then I am of any "terrorists," who in all actuality are combatants waging a war against a country which has more weapons, more troops, more technology, more money, and more power then it will ever hope to achieve. Yet they fight us dilligently to get us off of their land and out of their personal political affairs to which we have NO BUSINESS BEING IN.
In addition, the United States Constitution does not authorize us to have alliances with states like Israel, and it does not authorize us to pursue "Pre-emptive warfare."
Political Scientists use certain lenses of analysis to evaluate threats in international relations. So we can use the realist theory to evaluate your pathetic analogy of Iran to Nazi Germany. The difference between a threat coming from Adolf Hitler and Ahmedinjehad are huge. Whilst Germany had one of the largest and most technologically advanced Army's in the world, Iran does not. If Germany threatened to invade a country or "wipe it off the map" the threat was REAL, because Germany had the CAPABILITY to carry out its threats. Iran in contrast, LACKS ALL CAPABILITY TO MAKE GOOD ON SUCH THREATS. So you're comparison fails any legitimate scientific rational which political scientists use to evaluate these threats. So, it is quite obvious there is some hidden agenda, and it is usually motivated by either money or some religious fanatical agenda (in this case Christian vs. Muslim).
So sure the US has the mightest army in the world that didn't stop 9/11 did it? That didn't stop the bombings of embassies throughout the world or the USS Cole, did it?
Now with WMD the threat takes on a whole new level of seriousness, doesn't it?
Or do you suggest we once again sit back and wait until they hide a nuke in a shipping container and detonate it in one of our cities? Is that your definition of honor?
Sit around and wait for a known and admitted enemy that has declared war on the world, has threatened to use WMD if they get their hands on them (remember Iran is a supplier of muslim terrorists) and has publically stated he believes in a coming apocalypse.
Again Iran lacks any sort of effectively delivery system to carry out attacks on the MAIN LAND OF THE UNITED STATES. That means that it is NOT a national security threat to this country. And that means that we have no legitimate reason under our Constitution to goto war with them. What Iran could possibly do to Israel or other countries in that region, IS NONE OF OUR BUSINESS!
This is how you want to live? Bury your head in the sand (like the world did in the 1930's) and hope that when Iran gets nukes they agree to play nice with them?
Maybe you don't live in a big city so you don't care? Is that it?
I guess millions of innocent lives are not important enough to protect from a maniacal madman that is working towards obtaining nuclear weapons?
As for the Iran/Iraq war (which is not forgotten) isn't it interesting that although Iraq started it, it was Iran that was on the offensive for much of the later part of the war. Iraq used poison gas (A WMD by the way), I wonder what Iran would have done had they nukes at that time?
Any guesses?
LOL....as if either side was justified in what they did. That conflict was also none of our business. It's hilarious that you would bring this war up to try and demonize Iran when it fit your agenda, and make Iran sound "worse" than Iraq. Yet you support invading both countries and killing MILLIONS of civilians and claiming "collateral damage" and when just a few thousand people get killed here, it's time for us to exact revenge on 18 people by killing 1 million. Yea, that makes sense, that is aferall, what you're "God" tells you to do right?
This isn't a game Free, these people are religious fanatic's that will stop at nothing to change the world in the name of (radical) Islam.
The threat (not fear) is real and needs to be addressed. I find it sad that people here can't see evil for what it is unless it is explicitly spelled out for them.
Once again the analogy of Hilter applies, he gave militant speeches and yet the rest of the world chose not to believe him. HELLO, do you not learn anything from history?????