Dosage question

**zygleth** · 08-03-2008, 09:47 AM

OK I'll start off by excusing my ignorance so you experienced guys/gals don't laugh at this. I recently aquired Test E and Equipose in 400mg/ml vials. My source said take 3 cc/wk of Test. Ml = cc so am I taking 1200 mg = 1.2 grams? I am confused as I see the recommended dosage is 600 ml/wk. He also recommended 2 cc of Eq per wk as a stack. My bad math skills are evident but appreciate the help.
Yes I dun graduated from college but it was in Ops Management a long time ago in a galaxy far away......

**Big** · 08-03-2008, 09:48 AM

never listen to a source for cycle recommendations. that is way too much and likely a waste.
age?
height?
weight?
body fat%?
years training?
pct knowledge?
cycle experience?

**jc95605** · 08-03-2008, 09:55 AM

That sounds like way too much. How about those stats?

**zygleth** · 08-03-2008, 11:30 AM

Guys- here are my stats
age? 51
height? 6'2"
weight? 270
body fat%? Too much I'm sure
years training? 20
pct knowledge? I started HRT with Straint 6 weeks ago. I have a separate post for that.
cycle experience - 3 cycles in 20 years, mainly Sust 250, 1 shot/week for 12-16 weeks.

I am a fairly big boned, waist about 40' and lift as heavy as I can. Thanks for the replies!

**Big** · 08-03-2008, 11:32 AM

body fat is very important, you need to have it measured.

**zygleth** · 08-03-2008, 01:46 PM

OK I will do that but it's probably in the 25% range, just a complete guess. So does 3 cc/wk of test sound like too much, if there is such a thing?

**zygleth** · 08-03-2008, 01:54 PM

OK I'll start off by excusing my ignorance so you experienced guys/gals don't laugh at this. I recently aquired Test E and Equipose in 400mg/ml vials. My source said take 3 cc/wk of Test. Ml = cc so am I taking 1200 mg = 1.2 grams? I am confused as I see the recommended dosage is 600 ml/wk. He also recommended 2 cc of Eq per wk as a stack. My bad math skills are evident but appreciate the help.
My stats are:

Age- 51
Weight- 270
Height- 6'2"
Body fat- ? who knows, 40" waist
Training for 20 years with a couple 3 year breaks
Previous cycles- 3- 4 month uses of Sust 250 1/week. That's it...
I just started HRT with Striant 6 weeks ago as my test levels were vertually nonexistant
I posted this in the general steroid forum as well. Thanks for any help here guys....

**one8nine** · 08-03-2008, 04:10 PM

Originally Posted by zygleth

OK I will do that but it's probably in the 25% range, just a complete guess. So does 3 cc/wk of test sound like too much, if there is such a thing?

any steroids for 25% is too much you need to be 12% or less or your sides will be insane

diet
http://forums.steroid.com/diet-nutrition/

check out the diet forum, get your bf% in check in the mean time read on this board then when you are ready at 12% post yourself a cycle up and well help you make it perfect

**zygleth** · 08-03-2008, 05:02 PM

Ouch, that hurt but you're right I need to get my bf down. I don't look horrible but I can look a whole lot better with some fat loss. I will take your advice and start a new diet. Any other advice? Thanks

**one8nine** · 08-03-2008, 06:00 PM

Originally Posted by zygleth

Ouch, that hurt but you're right I need to get my bf down. I don't look horrible but I can look a whole lot better with some fat loss. I will take your advice and start a new diet. Any other advice? Thanks

sorry man i tried to be nice i didnt mean to insult at all
were not against you cycling you just dont want you to hurt yourself and end up doing more harm than good.
diet is your #1 key we have a workout forum too
http://forums.steroid.com/workout-training/

everything you need will be in the diet/workout forums

**TranscriptionFactor** · 08-03-2008, 06:10 PM

I don't know what your goals are, but you'll look a lot better and probably actually bigger if you get your BF down to the 10-12 range.
Then as they said, if you don't and you try taking the Test, the excess fat will aromatize too much of the Test to Estrogen and you'll get bad side effects.
I've been on this board less than a month and already learned so much about making a better diet and I can see the results already in the mirror as I am trying to cut right now before I do my first real cycle.

**Ashop** · 08-03-2008, 07:47 PM

Originally Posted by zygleth

OK I'll start off by excusing my ignorance so you experienced guys/gals don't laugh at this. I recently aquired Test E and Equipose in 400mg/ml vials. My source said take 3 cc/wk of Test. Ml = cc so am I taking 1200 mg = 1.2 grams? I am confused as I see the recommended dosage is 600 ml/wk. He also recommended 2 cc of Eq per wk as a stack. My bad math skills are evident but appreciate the help.
Yes I dun graduated from college but it was in Ops Management a long time ago in a galaxy far away......

WHATS your stats and prior experience?

**one8nine** · 08-03-2008, 08:17 PM

Originally Posted by ****

WHATS your stats and prior experience?

if you read the whole thread youll see hes 25% bf

**zygleth** · 08-03-2008, 08:18 PM

My stats are above. A few key points- I am 51 and am on HRT as my total test was virtually nonexistant, like in the 75 range. Dropping BF is going to be tough but that is one of the reasons I went on Test is to help loose BF.
I am going to change my diet which has been a see food one for a while now.
Very good point and one I have been avoiding.

One of my original ?'s is: 3cc = ? ml as I read the recmmended dosage is 400-600 ml/wk.
Thanks for the up front advice.

**one8nine** · 08-03-2008, 08:21 PM

Originally Posted by zygleth

My stats are above. A few key points- I am 51 and am on HRT as my total test was virtually nonexistant, like in the 75 range. Dropping BF is going to be tough but that is one of the reasons I went on Test is to help loose BF.
I am going to change my diet which has been a see food one for a while now.
Very good point and one I have been avoiding.

One of my original ?'s is: 3cc = ? ml as I read the recmmended dosage is 400-600 ml/wk.
Thanks for the up front advice.

this is HUGE information! you definately need an AI on hrt with your bf%! are you taking arimidex /aromasin /letro??

cc = ml
3 cc = 3 ml

**one8nine** · 08-03-2008, 08:24 PM

Originally Posted by zygleth

I recently aquired Test E and Equipose in 400mg/ml vials.

so
1 cc = 1 ml
1 cc = 400mg
1ml = 400mg

Originally Posted by zygleth

My source said take 3 cc/wk of Test. Ml = cc so am I taking 1200 mg = 1.2 grams?

correct

Originally Posted by zygleth

He also recommended 2 cc of Eq per wk as a stack.

thats 800mg/wk of eq

by the way none of this is good advice at all just confirming your math

**2bshredded** · 08-03-2008, 11:55 PM

Originally Posted by zygleth

OK I'll start off by excusing my ignorance so you experienced guys/gals don't laugh at this. I recently aquired Test E and Equipose in 400mg/ml vials. My source said take 3 cc/wk of Test. Ml = cc so am I taking 1200 mg = 1.2 grams? I am confused as I see the recommended dosage is 600 ml/wk. He also recommended 2 cc of Eq per wk as a stack. My bad math skills are evident but appreciate the help.
My stats are:

Age- 51
Weight- 270
Height- 6'2"
Body fat- ? who knows, 40" waist
Training for 20 years with a couple 3 year breaks
Previous cycles- 3- 4 month uses of Sust 250 1/week. That's it...
I just started HRT with Striant 6 weeks ago as my test levels were vertually nonexistant
I posted this in the general steroid forum as well. Thanks for any help here guys....

Hey.....
My first cycle was Test E and EQ., I was 46ish at the time, 6'3" / 210 LBS with a body fat of roughly 20%.........I've been lifting off/on all my life and was in half way decent shape when I did my first.

600ML Test/ 400 ML EQ..........it did the job, motivated me that much more.
I guess I would, and you've probaly heard it before, suggest to get your diet on track before you start your cycle.....cut some lbs.

1.2 grams is a fair amount of Test..........if you do jump into it, I would find out the true dosage.

But seriously.....diet and get in shape before you do your cycle......IMO

**Kale** · 08-04-2008, 01:30 AM

Originally Posted by 2bshredded

Hey.....
My first cycle was Test E and EQ., I was 46ish at the time, 6'3" / 210 LBS with a body fat of roughly 20%.........I've been lifting off/on all my life and was in half way decent shape when I did my first.

600ML Test/ 400 ML EQ..........it did the job, motivated me that much more.
I guess I would, and you've probaly heard it before, suggest to get your diet on track before you start your cycle.....cut some lbs.

1.2 grams is a fair amount of Test..........if you do jump into it, I would find out the true dosage.

But seriously.....diet and get in shape before you do your cycle......IMO

Absolutely agree. You are way to overweight to be juicing yet. Cut the fat, stay on HRT and then see how things look in six months

**zygleth** · 08-04-2008, 08:11 AM

One8nine- Thanks for confirming my math and the advice above. I am not taking a AI as I just started the test last week but will get some asap(not sure where tho)
I agree it is way too high a dose and I will cut back per recommendations on this site.
Your thoughts are appreciated...

**zygleth** · 08-04-2008, 08:17 AM

Thanks Kale and 2B- you guys have much more experience so I will heed your advice start my diet today and see how things go. Your replies are appreciated.
It will be hard not to start a cylce as I've been looking for a source for some time and finally found one, bummer...

**Big** · 08-04-2008, 08:27 AM

duplicate threads merged, please do not start multiple threads asking the same thing.

**zygleth** · 08-04-2008, 09:30 PM

Sorry - won't do that again, just didn't know where to start and finish. BTW- no offense taken, I believe in brutal honesty even tho it's not what people want to hear sometime.