low dose arimidex causing knee pains!?

[zeeibi]

Its wk 10 of my 12wk 500mg p/w test E cycle - log is here http://forums.steroid.com/members-cy...d-attempt.html

Since day 1 ive used adex 0.25 eod and had no problems up until late week 6/7, the days i take the adex my knees are terrible, hurts to sit down in a chair..cant walk down the stairs etc.
Each day following it gradually gets better and better..

Ive gone to get a blood test and are waiting results..

Would it be safe to say the adex is crashing my estrogen so low that its causing my the joint pains? and if that is the case, do i stop adex use all together?

Will update with blood test results when i get them but for now what do i do? was supposed to take my adex dose today but the pain is hardly worth it >.<


UPDATE*******

testosterone 68nmol/L (8.3-29) ( test was taken thursday evening of week 10 and i jabbed on the monday morning) - this seem a little low for 10th week 500mg p/w cycle? i am using pharma test too :/

SHGB - 11nmol/L (11-71) ( is this low or high ?)
DHEAS - 12umol/L (3.0-10) (what is this, and is this sweet?)

OEST2 - 127 pmol/L (<150) (seems like E2 is within the ranges, bloods taken thursday evening and last 0.25mg adex taken wednesday morning)

TSH - 2.7 mIU/L (0.5-4.5) (seems within range again)

My liver function test came back fairly alarming..

AST - 73 U/L (<40)
ALT - 125 U/L (<40) - (wtf?? im only using testosterone and arimidex :/)

Someone please able to help me understand 3 things now, why my test isnt as high as when i was in wk4 of my failed cycle last year using UGL stuff, why knees are painful when taking arimidex even tho E2 levels are within range and why i have such elevated liver enzymes.. would be much appreciated


Here is a link to my wk4 blood test results from last year - http://forums.steroid.com/anabolic-s...questions.html

[bass]

it doesn't sound like low E2 symptom but its possible, since you did BW you'll know what to do once you get results, so skip it one or two days and see if it helps, then treat based on BW.

BTW, way too young to be cycling, but unfortunately its to late.

[zeeibi]

Im going to get them tomorrow, i trained legs today and it took a fair amount of warm up on stationary bike and a few sets with just the bar on squats before i could squat without pain.. seems like after i get the knees warms up well its all good :/

Ive skipped my dose today, what would be the course of action if its not low E2 levels? could it be a side effect of the drug itself?

[Rida5d]

Blood test, don't guess
And yes, way too young

[zeeibi]

Awaiting results from blood test, im aware of my age and aware of the consequences of cycling at this age but i appreciate the concern.

[mietek]

this is a very low dosage to cause any significent drop in estrogen (which your body needs ) it is body elergic reaction to arimidex .

just stop for a few days or a week and see how you feel.

[zeeibi]

last dose was a few days ago, knees have been getting better progressively.. did legs tonight so will see if theyre sore tmorrow. Will post the results asap

[zeeibi]

updated opening post with results... anyone got any idea why i have knee pains >.<

[Bio-Active]

Did you ever run labs?

[zeeibi]

Did you ever run labs?

hey mate yeah i did, i updated the opening post with the results.. i also created another thread with the results in a different section hoping maybe someone could answer my questions

http://forums.steroid.com/hormone-re...ml#post6676607

[Bio-Active]

Are you feeling better now?

[zeeibi]

Are you feeling better now?

i have stopped taking adex and knees r much better, still bit of random aches but no were near the level when i was taking it.. only got 2 wks left of cycle so hopefully the E2 rebound isnt too high and get any sides >.< dont see any other way around it

as for plans for future cycles, would aromasin be any different in terms of side effects?
Which other AI options would i have?

[Bio-Active]

i have stopped taking adex and knees r much better, still bit of random aches but no were near the level when i was taking it.. only got 2 wks left of cycle so hopefully the E2 rebound isnt too high and get any sides >.< dont see any other way around it

as for plans for future cycles, would aromasin be any different in terms of side effects?
Which other AI options would i have?

Aromasin and Adex really are the best choices out there. Aromasin at 12.5 mg Ed would be a good starting point

[kelkel]

UPDATE*******

testosterone 68nmol/L (8.3-29) ( test was taken thursday evening of week 10 and i jabbed on the monday morning) - this seem a little low for 10th week 500mg p/w cycle? i am using pharma test too :/

SHGB - 11nmol/L (11-71) ( is this low or high ?) Bit low but test suppresses shbg. High doses of test suppress even more
DHEAS - 12umol/L (3.0-10) (what is this, and is this sweet?) Part of your hormone pathways. Good number

OEST2 - 127 pmol/L (<150) (seems like E2 is within the ranges, bloods taken thursday evening and last 0.25mg adex taken wednesday morning)
Needs to be a sensitive assay. Does not appear to be
TSH - 2.7 mIU/L (0.5-4.5) (seems within range again)That's an old range. More modern range .3 - 3.0 so a tad high actually. Would need full panel to access further

My liver function test came back fairly alarming..

AST - 73 U/L (<40)
ALT - 125 U/L (<40) - (wtf?? im only using testosterone and arimidex :/)Only using? It still goes through your liver. Take NAC. Read Austinites write up on it in the AAS Q & A.

Someone please able to help me understand 3 things now, why my test isnt as high as when i was in wk4 of my failed cycle last year using UGL stuff, why knees are painful when taking arimidex even tho E2 levels are within range and why i have such elevated liver enzymes.. would be much appreciated


Here is a link to my wk4 blood test results from last year - http://forums.steroid.com/anabolic-s...questions.html

Your guess is as good as mine re your Test level question. Adex and knees hurting? We are all different and maybe you just do not need that much adex. It's why we do frequent BW. Liver enzyme Q is answered above. Hopefully you have a good pct planned.

[zeeibi]

Your guess is as good as mine re your Test level question. Adex and knees hurting? We are all different and maybe you just do not need that much adex. It's why we do frequent BW. Liver enzyme Q is answered above. Hopefully you have a good pct planned.

thanks for that mate appreciate the input. Will check out that thread.


As for my PCT ive got clomid & nolva, will use for 4 weeks.

Havnt taken any adex for almost a week now, not sure if i should try to have 0.10mg eod now or how to dose it with what frequency..

[Bio-Active]

thanks for that mate appreciate the input. Will check out that thread. As for my PCT ive got clomid & nolva, will use for 4 weeks. Havnt taken any adex for almost a week now, not sure if i should try to have 0.10mg eod now or how to dose it with what frequency..

what doses are you planning to to your pct at?

[zeeibi]

what doses are you planning to to your pct at?

clomid @ 50/35/25/25
nolva @ 40/20/20/20

both are from ar-r

[Bio-Active]

clomid @ 50/35/25/25
nolva @ 40/20/20/20

both are from ar-r

I would run the clomid at at least 50 mg ed 100/50/50/50 if the sides are to much during week one lower the dose

[zeeibi]

Will do thanks for all the help guys.

Just an update, i started nolva @ 20mg past 4 days because of a small hard lump under right nipple... still got another 8 days till PCT time is ment to start so hopefully wont make much of a difference. Will run the PCT for 4 weeks at the suggested clomid doses.. thanks!

[Bio-Active]

It should be fine you are still running your ai right?