Gyno on one side

**Relax** · 11-20-2013, 10:51 AM

Hey guys, it's been over a year and a half since I've used aas, and I've got lumps/gyno on the right side, but none whatsoever on the left. Is there anything that can be done or is it pretty much permanent? Mickey?

**Oleg83** · 11-20-2013, 03:51 PM

Have you tried Aromasin ?

**Bio-Active** · 11-20-2013, 04:22 PM

Ralox is what I would try

**Back In Black** · 11-20-2013, 04:23 PM

Raloxifene: The Ultimate Gyno Treatment??

**Relax** · 11-21-2013, 06:55 AM

It's hard lumps, is there anything that can help that or am I basically just screwed. It's def from running aas though, always had low bf and have never had any sort of gyno

**Back In Black** · 11-21-2013, 07:01 AM

Try the raloxifene. If that doesn't work then you need to learn to love it or go for surgery.

**Relax** · 11-21-2013, 09:35 AM

Haha yea. I have 30 10mg tamoxifen pills should i use that then go straight into ralox, or just use ralox? Also will it completely kill my E2 levels and how do I avoid rebound?.... Thanks bud

**Back In Black** · 11-21-2013, 10:30 AM

Straight into raloxifene, 60mg per day. If you don't notice an improvement within a month there's a fair chance you won't get an improvement.

No it won't crash your E2 and there shouldn't be a rebound as far as I'm aware, but if you feel better tapering off then do so.

**Relax** · 11-21-2013, 03:04 PM

Is there a specific time of the day that is better to take it than others? Also are the any other supplements/foods that can help out also. Thanks guys

**Bio-Active** · 11-21-2013, 03:11 PM

Originally Posted by Relax

Is there a specific time of the day that is better to take it than others? Also are the any other supplements/foods that can help out also. Thanks guys

it really doesn't matter what time of day you take your meds just be consistent as far as foods go I would be eating clean enough to keep bf low

**Relax** · 01-12-2014, 04:00 PM

Alright guys, ralox helped some, but not completely. The gyno is still there, but some times it feels hard and sometimes it is soft and more spread out, also a very small lump is forming under my left nipple, WTF? It's been over a year and few months since the end of my pct for my last cycle. It seems to me that my body is aromatizing too much of my natural testosterone / or my test to estrogen ratio isn't good. What do I do from here? I thought it was weird enough to get gyno on one side in the first place, and I certainly don't want it on both sides. Also is there a chance my estrogen rebounded from the ralox?

**Bio-Active** · 01-12-2014, 04:04 PM

Originally Posted by Relax

Alright guys, ralox helped some, but not completely. The gyno is still there, but some times it feels hard and sometimes it is soft and more spread out, also a very small lump is forming under my left nipple, WTF? It's been over a year and few months since the end of my pct for my last cycle. It seems to me that my body is aromatizing too much of my natural testosterone/ or my test to estrogen ratio isn't good. What do I do from here? I thought it was weird enough to get gyno on one side in the first place, and I certainly don't want it on both sides. Also is there a chance my estrogen rebounded from the ralox?

Have you run labs? How much Ralox are you taking?

**Relax** · 01-12-2014, 05:15 PM

Originally Posted by jim230027

Have you run labs? How much Ralox are you taking?

The last couple labs that my doc ran were for free testosterone , the last one came back at 69, ref range was 50-300. My estrogen was high end of the reference range, and when my total test was check about 6 months ago it was 600.

**Relax** · 01-12-2014, 05:58 PM

I was using 60 mg ralox a day

**Relax** · 01-12-2014, 06:08 PM

Do I need to run an ai for a while?

**Bio-Active** · 01-12-2014, 06:47 PM

What did your dr say about the gyno? You do not want to risk estrogen rebound

**Relax** · 01-12-2014, 07:43 PM

She said it was just from hormone imbalances and it would go away with time

**Relax** · 01-12-2014, 07:52 PM

I want to run a ten week cycle of test e, with hcg and arimidex along the cycle and nolvadex and clomid pct, because my first cycle was stupid and I want to do it right and recover right. Maybe that's stupid, I don't know

**Bio-Active** · 01-12-2014, 09:34 PM

Originally Posted by Relax

I want to run a ten week cycle of test e, with hcg and arimidex along the cycle and nolvadex and clomid pct, because my first cycle was stupid and I want to do it right and recover right. Maybe that's stupid, I don't know

I think you should get your hormones balanced out first and treat your gyno

**Relax** · 01-12-2014, 09:55 PM

How do I go about that, it's been a year and a half.

**Bio-Active** · 01-12-2014, 10:12 PM

So your total t was 600. What was your estro?

**Relax** · 01-12-2014, 10:37 PM

My estrogen was 48, range was 20-50

**Bio-Active** · 01-13-2014, 06:42 AM

Originally Posted by Relax

My estrogen was 48, range was 20-50

What is your body fat?

**Relax** · 01-13-2014, 07:07 AM

Originally Posted by jim230027

What is your body fat?

9-10%

**Bio-Active** · 01-13-2014, 07:14 AM

Originally Posted by Relax

9-10%

Hmmm I would run the rolax for 4-6 weeks and see if it helps if not the Gyno may just be to far along to reverse

**Relax** · 01-13-2014, 03:33 PM

Originally Posted by jim230027

Hmmm I would run the rolax for 4-6 weeks and see if it helps if not the Gyno may just be to far along to reverse

What I'm saying is that it's very slowly starting to do the same thing on my left side, so obviously it's a problem with high estrogen levels compared with my circulationg testosterone .

**Bio-Active** · 01-13-2014, 03:50 PM

Originally Posted by Relax

What I'm saying is that it's very slowly starting to do the same thing on my left side, so obviously it's a problem with high estrogen levels compared with my circulationg testosterone.

this is exactly why you need to get this straight before ever doing another cycle. Are you sure your chems are legit?

**1st** · 01-13-2014, 04:30 PM

This sounds like scary sh*t! Hope you get yourself sorted mate.

When you say your first cycle was 'stupid', what do you mean? What were you taking??

1st

**Relax** · 01-13-2014, 07:46 PM

It was only a 6 week cycle of testosterone , the stupid part was doing pct with aromasin and nolva, no estrogen control on cycle and no hcg during, or clomid pct.

**Relax** · 01-13-2014, 07:49 PM

Originally Posted by jim230027

this is exactly why you need to get this straight before ever doing another cycle. Are you sure your chems are legit?

That is exactly what I want to do, I'm not feening to do another cycle, and could go the rest of my life without another, I simply meant a restart cycle, controlling(lowering estrogen) and post cycling with both serms needed. I have nolvadex that I know is for sure legit and aromason that is for sure legit. The ralox came from ar-r .

**Bio-Active** · 01-13-2014, 07:51 PM

Originally Posted by Relax

That is exactly what I want to do, I'm not feening to do another cycle, and could go the rest of my life without another, I simply meant a restart cycle, controlling(lowering estrogen) and post cycling with both serms needed. I have nolvadex that I know is for sure legit and aromason that is for sure legit. The ralox came from ar-r.

Aromasin is for on cycle not recomended for pct clomid or torem are better choices to compliment your tomax

**Relax** · 01-13-2014, 08:34 PM

Okay. It's honestly the weirdest thing, sometimes the right nipple is a big knot and sometimes it's soft feeling tissue, and now the left has a tiny tiny little lump directly under it. I must say that maybe it's normal to have a little one, and I could be just over thinking it, because i tend to overthink things, but idk. I would just think that after a year and almost a half that of my hormones were gonna be normalized they would.

**Bio-Active** · 01-13-2014, 08:37 PM

Yes you are always going to have a gland there unless its removed and you probably are over thinking it. If you keep fidgeting with your nipples they are going to swell