unsure what to take in 1st cycle, need input

[pretty_tony]

. This is my first cycle and i bought Qfs international prop, qv deca 300, and 100 / 10mg qv d-bols. I have all the anti-e's i need.Gonna go Prop EOD. Then 3 d-bols a day for the first month. and deca twice a week. The whole thing lasting 10 weeks. i know about the pain and injections and it doesn't corcern me in the least. Is this stack too big or can it be done? thanks for the help

[KAEW44]

Many people will advise you to go on just test for your first cycle, you can get all the gains you want with only a test cycle, after you are done with that cycle and recovered. then you can start planning your second cycle wich could include the deca.

[ODC0717]

Many people will advise you to go on just test for your first cycle, you can get all the gains you want with only a test cycle, after you are done with that cycle and recovered. then you can start planning your second cycle wich could include the deca.

Agreed. Also, some stats would be good...age, years working out, etc...

[pretty_tony]

22 years old, working out for 4 years steady, knowlegable workout partners, reliable source, stuck on 200 lbs for a year

[Lozgod]

I say a 10 week cycle of 500mg of test E with 10mg a day of Nolvadex weeks 1-12 bumping up to 20mg everyday and adding Clomid at 100mg a day for weeks 13, followed by 20mg of Nolvadex and 50mg of clomid for weeks 14 and 15.


Test Enanthante- Weeks 1-10 - 500mg/week
Nolvadex -weeks 1-12-10mg a day
" " -weeks 13-15 20mg a day
Clomid- week13-100mg a day
" " -weeks 14-15 50mg/day

[pretty_tony]

still need more opinions, anybody have one?

[John88Test]

i have roughly the same type of deal you got going. I am around 200...and have been working out for about as long as u and so on...i am about to start my second cycle however...test ent would be the best bet for you for your first cycle combined with dbol...thats what i am doing...im gonna be running 500mg test ent E4D's (one pin monday morning and one pin thursday night) + 40mg of dbol ED...i think it should work great for me and probably would do the same for u

[John88Test]

oh yeah...let me know how that goes...peace

[Musa]

I agree bro , test only, test will cut you up more than deca and d-bol, I did deca only my first cycle and i wish I had done test.........Trust me...

[Geeezer]

Check out this link it's on AR
http://www.steroid.com/novicecycle1.php

Good luck Bro

[usualsuspect]

Test-E 250mgs E4D or Test Cyp 200mgs E3D. Your eating patterns and training will determine how much you grow. As you get bigger and wiser, you add a compund to subsequent cycle's.

Happy Growing

~US~

[pretty_tony]

thanks for the input, i'm gonna skip the prop and buy some cyp and stack it with my deca. I still have d-bols and wanna do them to give me a little get up and go. Will they be useless or does it make sense to take them as well?