My experiment with upping the dose of Test

**BUYLONGTERM** · 08-03-2004, 09:03 AM

For those of you who don't know, I have always been a huge advocate of low dose cycles. My first cycle was a low dose cycle of TEST, EQ, and Winstrol. (see thread below)

http://67.18.108.244/showthread.php?t=58158

My 2nd cycle was your "normal" doses of Test, DBOL, Deca, GH. My doses consisted of about 500mg of Test, 400mg Deca. Over all I wasn't to pleased with the cycle. I did have shoulder problems, but I mostly worked through the pain and again, my results weren't all that impressive

I've started my 3rd cycle.

1 - 4 Prop 75mg ED
1 - 21 Enan 500mg (250mg E3D)
1 - 20 EQ 500mg (250mg E3D)
11 - 20 Fina 50mg ED
21- 23 prop 75 mgs ed
1 - 23 Nolva 10mg ED
1 - 23 L-dex .25mg ED
1 - 23 Vit B6 200mg ED

I've decided that I'm going to up my doses of Test to 800mg-1g to see if I get better results. I think I'm a good canidate to do this because all my cycles have been long, I have never gained one single pound of water (bloat),I haven't had major sides at all, and I think I'm mature enough and responsible enough to handle any sides that come my way. I really want to see if there is a big difference when one almost double's the dose. I do not plan on running that high of a dose throughout the entire cycle. I do NOT think any newbie should run high doses because like I said, I transformed my body with a low dose.

I will keep everyone updated with my progress. So far I'm on my 2nd week of upping the dose..

**SportsMedVIP** · 08-03-2004, 09:11 AM

Good luck with it bro, I plan to shoot for about 1g next cycle as well.

**mass junkie** · 08-03-2004, 09:12 AM

Happy growing BLT....I too have upped my dosage on my current cycle....I'll be intrested to see how you fair as well

**Da Bull** · 08-03-2004, 09:17 AM

I spoke to you about this already...buy I'll publically wish you all the best on the cycle.Get large my friend!!

~DB

**BUYLONGTERM** · 08-03-2004, 09:22 AM

Originally Posted by Da Bull

I spoke to you about this already...buy I'll publically wish you all the best on the cycle.Get large my friend!!

~DB

Yep, after talking with you, I decided to give it a go!!!

Thanks!

BLT

**dirtdawg** · 08-03-2004, 02:24 PM

i am also upping my doses, but i am going with 1 g of enth ew

**BUYLONGTERM** · 08-03-2004, 02:29 PM

Originally Posted by dirtdawg

i am also upping my doses, but i am going with 1 g of enth ew

I've thought about a gram, but I swore to myself I would never go that high. I want to see if I get better growth at 800mg. If not, well then 1 gram here I come!!!!

**BUYLONGTERM** · 08-03-2004, 02:29 PM

Originally Posted by mass junkie

Happy growing BLT....I too have upped my dosage on my current cycle....I'll be intrested to see how you fair as well

What does your current cycle look like?

**DADDYDBOL** · 08-03-2004, 02:35 PM

good luck bro and i'm sure you will be pleased with your results....

keep us posted....

**SKiN** · 08-03-2004, 02:41 PM

GL bro...

**BUYLONGTERM** · 08-03-2004, 02:43 PM

Thanks guys!!! I will definitely keep everyone updated!!!

**dirtdawg** · 08-03-2004, 02:44 PM

Originally Posted by buylongterm

I've thought about a gram, but I swore to myself I would never go that high. I want to see if I get better growth at 800mg. If not, well then 1 gram here I come!!!!

its just another 1/2 cc every shot, just wanted to plant the seed

**mass junkie** · 08-03-2004, 02:45 PM

Originally Posted by buylongterm

What does your current cycle look like?

Heres what im running
WK 1-6 Dbol 40mgs ED
WK 1-20 Test E 1000 mgs
WK 1-14 Deca 400 mgs
WK 15-20 Halo 30 mgs ED
WK 20-22 prop 100 mgs ED
HCG @ 500iu's twice weekly wk 15-21

**dirtdawg** · 08-03-2004, 02:46 PM

Originally Posted by mass junkie

Heres what im running
WK 1-6 Dbol 40mgs ED
WK 1-20 Test E 1000 mgs
WK 1-14 Deca 400 mgs
WK 15-20 Halo 30 mgs ED
WK 20-22 prop 100 mgs ED
HCG @ 500iu's twice weekly wk 15-21

what week are you in?

Swellin · 08-03-2004, 02:47 PM

Good luck with it bro! I certainly hope your shoulder treats you better this time around.

I upped my dose before the recent dose jacking insanity took hold, and I'm glad I did. Pretty sweet stuff!

**mass junkie** · 08-03-2004, 02:48 PM

Originally Posted by dirtdawg

what week are you in?

Just started my 3rd week

**DADDYDBOL** · 08-03-2004, 02:49 PM

whats wrong with your shoulder? ofcourse you know this but do you think a low dosage of deca would help?

**BUYLONGTERM** · 08-03-2004, 02:50 PM

Originally Posted by Swellin

Good luck with it bro! I certainly hope your shoulder treats you better this time around.

I upped my dose before the recent dose jacking insanity took hold, and I'm glad I did. Pretty sweet stuff!

So far the shoulder is doing well. I have been lifting light with lots of reps. I actually think it's helping strengthen it!

I just hope new guys don't think they should up the dose, or think big doses are the way to go. Everyone is different!

**BUYLONGTERM** · 08-03-2004, 02:52 PM

Originally Posted by DADDYDBOL

whats wrong with your shoulder? ofcourse you know this but do you think a low dosage of deca would help?

I used Deca with my last cycle, and It really didn't help. I had major shoulder problems several months ago during my 2nd cycle. I lifted through the pain, but finally ended my cycle early. The last 4 months I didn't lift and I allowed it to heal. It feels great, but I can tell if I try and go real heavy, It will give way. This time around, I'm playing it safe and taking my time. I don't want to go through that again!!!

**BUYLONGTERM** · 08-03-2004, 02:53 PM

Originally Posted by mass junkie

Heres what im running
WK 1-6 Dbol 40mgs ED
WK 1-20 Test E 1000 mgs
WK 1-14 Deca 400 mgs
WK 15-20 Halo 30 mgs ED
WK 20-22 prop 100 mgs ED
HCG @ 500iu's twice weekly wk 15-21

Great cycle!!!! Best of luck!!!

**DADDYDBOL** · 08-03-2004, 02:54 PM

yeah deca will just lubricate your joints so if you have problems take it easy on it....

you have enough experience in this to know what you can do.....

**kronik** · 08-03-2004, 02:55 PM

Good Luck bro. Let me know how the light weight reps go with your shoulder. My left shoulder has been fukked for the past 2 months, right behind my shoulder blade. Once again good luck and happy growing...

**Da Bull** · 08-03-2004, 02:57 PM

Originally Posted by buylongterm

Great cycle!!!! Best of luck!!!

He needs to adjust his prop dose.

**BUYLONGTERM** · 08-03-2004, 02:58 PM

Originally Posted by dirtdawg

its just another 1/2 cc every shot, just wanted to plant the seed

You did!!! Bastard!!!

I'll send you the bill!!!!

**BUYLONGTERM** · 08-03-2004, 02:58 PM

Originally Posted by Da Bull

He needs to adjust his prop dose.

You think he should lower it to 75mg?

**dirtdawg** · 08-03-2004, 02:59 PM

Originally Posted by buylongterm

You did!!! Bastard!!!

I'll send you the bill!!!!

**BUYLONGTERM** · 08-03-2004, 03:00 PM

Guess I should update mine!!!

1 - 4 Prop 75mg ED
1 - 21 Enan 800 (400mg E3D)
1 - 20 EQ 500mg (250mg E3D)
11 - 20 Fina 50mg ED
21- 23 prop 125 mgs ed
1 - 23 Nolva 10mg ED
1 - 23 L-dex .25mg ED
1 - 23 Vit B6 200mg ED

**SaTyR** · 08-03-2004, 03:02 PM

Originally Posted by buylongterm

For those of you who don't know, I have always been a huge advocate of low dose cycles. My first cycle was a low dose cycle of TEST, EQ, and Winstrol. (see thread below)

http://67.18.108.244/showthread.php?t=58158

My 2nd cycle was your "normal" doses of Test, DBOL, Deca, GH. My doses consisted of about 500mg of Test, 400mg Deca. Over all I wasn't to pleased with the cycle. I did have shoulder problems, but I mostly worked through the pain and again, my results weren't all that impressive

I've started my 3rd cycle.

1 - 4 Prop 75mg ED
1 - 21 Enan 500mg (250mg E3D)
1 - 20 EQ 500mg (250mg E3D)
11 - 20 Fina 50mg ED
21- 23 prop 75 mgs ed
1 - 23 Nolva 10mg ED
1 - 23 L-dex .25mg ED
1 - 23 Vit B6 200mg ED

I've decided that I'm going to up my doses of Test to 800mg-1g to see if I get better results. I think I'm a good canidate to do this because all my cycles have been long, I have never gained one single pound of water (bloat),I haven't had major sides at all, and I think I'm mature enough and responsible enough to handle any sides that come my way. I really want to see if there is a big difference when one almost double's the dose. I do not plan on running that high of a dose throughout the entire cycle. I do NOT think any newbie should run high doses because like I said, I transformed my body with a low dose.

I will keep everyone updated with my progress. So far I'm on my 2nd week of upping the dose..

If your diet is in check and you are training correct you should grow enough on 500mg test and 400mg EQ . Increasing you dosage will have absolutly NO effect....If you dont grow on 500mg you wont at 1000mg.

Im in a cycle currently injecting 500mg TEST.C/week , 40mg DBOLL/day , 25mg PROVIRON/day , 10mg NOLVADEX/day. Im in week 5 now , dboll is gone. And im allready up 16.5lbs , 8more weeks to go. Goal : 40lbs

**Da Bull** · 08-03-2004, 03:02 PM

Originally Posted by buylongterm

Guess I should update mine!!!

1 - 4 Prop 75mg ED
1 - 21 Enan 800 (400mg E3D)
1 - 20 EQ 500mg (250mg E3D)
11 - 20 Fina 50mg ED
21- 23 prop 75 mgs ed
1 - 23 Nolva 10mg ED
1 - 23 L-dex .25mg ED
1 - 23 Vit B6 200mg ED

You need to adjust your prop dose at the end as well.125 mgs ED will do the trick.

**BUYLONGTERM** · 08-03-2004, 03:03 PM

Originally Posted by SaTyR

If your diet in in check and you are training correct you should grow enough on 500mg test and 400mg EQ . Increasing you dosage will have absolutly NO effect....

Thats what I want to fine out. Everything is in check.

**Da Bull** · 08-03-2004, 03:03 PM

Originally Posted by SaTyR

If your diet in in check and you are training correct you should grow enough on 500mg test and 400mg EQ . Increasing you dosage will have absolutly NO effect....

You just kicked the hornets nest bro

**dirtdawg** · 08-03-2004, 03:03 PM

Originally Posted by buylongterm

Guess I should update mine!!!

1 - 4 Prop 75mg ED
1 - 21 Enan 800 (400mg E3D)
1 - 20 EQ 500mg (250mg E3D)
11 - 20 Fina 50mg ED
21- 23 prop 75 mgs ed
1 - 23 Nolva 10mg ED
1 - 23 L-dex .25mg ED
1 - 23 Vit B6 200mg ED

enth 800 mgs ew?

**BUYLONGTERM** · 08-03-2004, 03:04 PM

Originally Posted by Da Bull

You need to adjust your prop dose at the end as well.125 mgs ED will do the trick.

Missed that. So Im assuming thats what you meant with Mass as well.....I had it backwards

**ripsid** · 08-03-2004, 03:05 PM

BLT and Mass good luck bro's! Mass I was surprised you didn't go higher in the first place! BLT, as I remember from reading before I remember the idea of longer is better. Myself, when I do go on I want to run test prop, but have been toying with going like this:

either:
Test prop - 150 eod 1-15
Tren - 75mg eod 4-12
Primo - 400mg e3d - 10-20
=> maybe EQ 1-15 600mg
or just go
T Enth 1-12 800 - 1000mg every 2days
T prop 10-20 150eod (75ed)
Tren - 75mg eod 4-12
Primo - 400mg e3d -10-20
=> EQ 600mg 1-14

Good luck guys, you be my Guinea pigs whether to run higher doses!

SID

**test is best** · 08-03-2004, 03:05 PM

you should get large off that!

**Da Bull** · 08-03-2004, 03:05 PM

Originally Posted by buylongterm

Missed that. So Im assuming thats what you meant with Mass as well.....I had it backwards

Yes sir

**BUYLONGTERM** · 08-03-2004, 03:07 PM

Originally Posted by Da Bull

You just kicked the hornets nest bro

I can't stop laughing at this response!!! It's cracking me up!!!

I think it's that face!!!

**BodyMechanic** · 08-03-2004, 03:07 PM

Originally Posted by SaTyR

If your diet in in check and you are training correct you should grow enough on 500mg test and 400mg EQ . Increasing you dosage will have absolutly NO effect....

not everyone can make good gains on 500mg of test after doing gear for years. If it works for you fine.

**SaTyR** · 08-03-2004, 03:08 PM

Originally Posted by buylongterm

Thats what I want to fine out. Everything is in check.

BLT i wish you all the best my friend , but if your diet is in check and you are training good. Then you WILL grow on 500mg , thats almost 15times what you natural produce. I really hope you see some good gains on this cycle. GL

**SaTyR** · 08-03-2004, 03:10 PM

Originally Posted by BodyMechanic

not everyone can make good gains on 500mg of test after doing gear for years. If it works for you fine.

I dont believe he has been juicing for years.

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