I am just curious if anyone else has used only these two tests together for a cycle, and if so how much and how often of each. I am planning on a cycle of only these two soon due to ncaa testing and short detection times, i took them before this past season and enjoyed the results but not so much the pain, however i feel it is worth it. I just feel any knowledge would help my situation. I had an IP brand and it was a mix of the two and I took 75mg eod, but i am reading a lot about people using 75mg ed ... also which do you feel is better the IP mixed or rather go with someone else so i can take them seperatly??? please help if you have any suggestions, thanks.