anyone tiied this?

[jerryboy]

has anyone tried s-1+ or 1-ad together?

[nsa]

I have used S1+ along with m-1,4-add and it yeilded decent gains. And that was after most ph/ps stacks weren't doing anything in terms of gains for me.

[Bryan2]

How much did you end up getting from that cycle?

ANd how long did you wait till the cycle with prop and 1 test cyp?

[nsa]

I gained like 5 pounds from that cycle and started the prop/1-test cyp cycle the last day of the S1+/m-1,4-add. Essentially i use the m-1,4-ad/ s1+ to kickstart a prop cycle. Prop cycle is only going to be 7-8 weeks, wrapping up just before christmas. Looking to get up to a ripped 190-195 then wait til like april to start my cutting cycle of prop/masteron and hopefully be more ripped after that and be around 200 lbs. I feel that 200 ripped isn't bad for someone who's only 5'8".