Planning Future Cycle Question?

[carmine09]

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i am plannning on running a 15 week cycle here is what it looks like! all suggestions comments are welcome and appriciated! thanks bros.

1-15 test e 500mg
1-4 dbol 50mg ed or test prop 1-4?
eq 1-10 most likely but maybe qv deca 450mg per week
always nolva ed 10 mg
pct clomid 17-20 nolva 20mg ed

Also i was thinking of leaving out deca and eq entirely not sure and just trying a lower dose cycle than i have done in the past and see how my gains are!

my stats are as of today in week 8 of bulking cycle
1-12 test 250 eod
1-8 deca 450 mg
1-4 dbol 50mg
nolva ed 10mg

i am 202 12% bf 5'10
Thanks for any help suggestions!!!!!!

[juiceinthehood]

eq needs to be run longer

[JohnnyB]

What's your cycle history?

JohnnyB

[JohnnyB]

eq needs to be run longer

I agree 14 weeks would work in this one, but we your history

JohnnyB

[carmine09]

I agree 14 weeks would work in this one, but we your history

JohnnyB

i started training after high school sports were done. 18-23 natural built a real solid base was actually around 210 but alot of water weight from supps.
only been running ass for almost 1 1/2 years. on my forth now which you see. the first three looked like this.

1. ran test (sp) cytoho 500mg. 1-10
d-bol 20-30 mg ed 1-4

2. ran test 400 ouch 1-10
deca 300mg a week 1-8

3. test prop 1-16 ed
fina 1-8ed
dbol1-4 50 mg ed

#2 and 3 used proper pct and ran nolva throughout.

[carmine09]

I agree 14 weeks would work in this one, but we your history

JohnnyB

ok that i can do

oh i forgot before. before the cycle now i cut up to 189 before i started this current cycle if wondering on weight. thanks!

[JohnnyB]

ok that i can do

oh i forgot before. before the cycle now i cut up to 189 before i started this current cycle if wondering on weight. thanks!

I like prop for a jump start, I'm not a d-bol fan

JohnnyB

[d.b]

I like prop for a jump start, I'm not a d-bol fan

JohnnyB

I agree with JB...

I would run the prop for the first 4 to 6 wks then drop until the last 2 wks... taper the deca up and down...leave the eq until the next cycle...with using the prop no need for the dbol...jmho

peace

db

[bignatt]

why taper the deca?

[d.b]

So you dont crash bro...

peace

db

[ODC0717]

How about cutting out the deca at about week 10? Since you're running test for another 12 weeks there's no need to taper the deca. I would reccomend front end loading your cycle with prop at 100mg ed. Start the prop the last week of your test enth and run the prop for another 2 weeks after you stop shooting the enth. This gives your body 4 weeks of recovery from the deca, which should be sufficient. I wouldn't use deca for only 8 weeks. You don't even begin see results from it until around week 5, at least for me. I run it 10 weeks, no more and no less. When you do decide to run eq, it needs to be ran a minumum of 12 weeks to take full advantage of it. I run it for 14 and run the test about 16 weeks, but I've also ran it for 14 and test 13 weeks and had no issue with recovery.

_ODC

[carmine09]

How about cutting out the deca at about week 10? Since you're running test for another 12 weeks there's no need to taper the deca. I would reccomend front end loading your cycle with prop at 100mg ed. Start the prop the last week of your test enth and run the prop for another 2 weeks after you stop shooting the enth. This gives your body 4 weeks of recovery from the deca, which should be sufficient. I wouldn't use deca for only 8 weeks. You don't even begin see results from it until around week 5, at least for me. I run it 10 weeks, no more and no less. When you do decide to run eq, it needs to be ran a minumum of 12 weeks to take full advantage of it. I run it for 14 and run the test about 16 weeks, but I've also ran it for 14 and test 13 weeks and had no issue with recovery.

_ODC

thanks, oh about the deca it is being run until week 10 not week 8 thats my mistake.

[carmine09]

I think this is what i am looking at!

1-15 test e 500mg a week

1-12 eq

1-4 prop 100mged

nolva ed 10mg

pct clomid 17-19
nolva 20mged

[bignatt]

you could run the eq to 14 if you wanted

[t-money]

you could run the eq to 14 if you wanted

Def run the EQ until 14...you will be much happier with the results.

T

[carmine09]

Def run the EQ until 14...you will be much happier with the results.

T

From what i understand you should run test for about two weeks longer then eq as it stands i have enough test for 15 weeks so maybe 13 for eq? i could stand corrected though.

[JohnnyB]

you could run the eq to 14 if you wanted

that's a good idea

JohnnyB