Var Only Cycle

[Magnum II]

Following my bulking cycle scheduled to begin this March (12 weeks Test & Deca) I plan to do a Var only cycle to finish out the summer. I have big problems with sides from Test and I'm looking to downgrade to a milder med from here on out (need to use up last of bulking meds). The highest dose of Var I've ever been on was 50mg ED up to now. I plan to up it to 70mg ED for 8 weeks and was wondering what any other bros have experienced with similar cycles.

All thoughts welcome.

[Mesomorphyl]

Following my bulking cycle scheduled to begin this March (12 weeks Test & Deca) I plan to do a Var only cycle to finish out the summer. I have big problems with sides from Test and I'm looking to downgrade to a milder med from here on out (need to use up last of bulking meds). The highest dose of Var I've ever been on was 50mg ED up to now. I plan to up it to 70mg ED for 8 weeks and was wondering what any other bros have experienced with similar cycles.

All thoughts welcome.

Heavy Hitter just finished his cycle, give him a shout.

[asymmetrical1]

Following my bulking cycle scheduled to begin this March (12 weeks Test & Deca) I plan to do a Var only cycle to finish out the summer. I have big problems with sides from Test and I'm looking to downgrade to a milder med from here on out (need to use up last of bulking meds). The highest dose of Var I've ever been on was 50mg ED up to now. I plan to up it to 70mg ED for 8 weeks and was wondering what any other bros have experienced with similar cycles.

All thoughts welcome.

i am curious as to what sides you get from test, and what kind of test and dosage did you run?

[Magnum II]

I use 500 mg/wk of Test En and the water retention is insane with me. Last cycle I used 1mg/day of Arimadex which helped some but not enough. I looked like the Stay-Puffed Marshmellow Man. I also have big problems with hair loss and am slightly prone to Gyno. All in all, I just don't seem to be a good candidate for Test based cycles. Even though I love some of the other sides associated with Long-Acting Test compounds...feeling of well-being, sexual potency, etc..

I'm going to try a milder approach and derive what I can from it.

[ire]

I hear shoot Enanthate EOD lessens the sides considerably.

[GrantC5]

I have ran 40mg ed for 6 weeks (VAR) and it worked great. I think 70mg is too much but that is just my opinion. I think it really depends on how your body reacts to it. If you can take 20mg ED and get a decent pump and stay hard through the night then 70mg is to much. At 40mg for me I had to stop working out short of 30 min at times because I couldn't move my muscle was so hard. I took BD products and at the same time 1500mg B12, 500 mg L-arginine, 500 mg Glutamine, Flax Seed Oil, and about 2 grams of Protein per LB of BW. If you decide to go to 70mg please keep us updated I am curious what it will do to you. Good Luck

[asymmetrical1]

I use 500 mg/wk of Test En and the water retention is insane with me. Last cycle I used 1mg/day of Arimadex which helped some but not enough. I looked like the Stay-Puffed Marshmellow Man. I also have big problems with hair loss and am slightly prone to Gyno. All in all, I just don't seem to be a good candidate for Test based cycles. Even though I love some of the other sides associated with Long-Acting Test compounds...feeling of well-being, sexual potency, etc..

I'm going to try a milder approach and derive what I can from it.

it happens to some bro.....imo try a low dose prop cycle with diff ancills, like nolv/femara/lztrole

[jollygreenGIANT]

how bout some test prop with the var??

[Magnum II]

I ran Test Prop in my second cycle and, even though people say "Test is Test", I have to admit it did seem like the water retention issue wasn't as bad as with the long-acting esters. But, I had just as big a problem with hair loss. One thing I might try is a much smaller dose of Test Prop--maybe only 50 mg EOD and run it along side the Var. Maybe 500mg/wk is just more than my system wants to handle right now.

[asymmetrical1]

I ran Test Prop in my second cycle and, even though people say "Test is Test", I have to admit it did seem like the water retention issue wasn't as bad as with the long-acting esters. But, I had just as big a problem with hair loss. One thing I might try is a much smaller dose of Test Prop--maybe only 50 mg EOD and run it along side the Var. Maybe 500mg/wk is just more than my system wants to handle right now.

a low dose prop/var cycle a much better option than a var only cycle....

[Klossus]

Mag you should get in touch w/ Duke of Earl, he seems to know a good deal on the hairloss issue