Critique 2nd cycle (Test,Deca,Tren,Var)

[AG5678]

I'm going to be done with my 1st cycle pretty soon and already thinking about my winter bulker. This time I will be a lot more prepared with anti E's....

Anyways all my gear is going to be British Dragon. I know this cycle might need a little help because I’m confused on the amount of weeks some of these compounds should be run at....(Tren?)

Test E 600mg wk 1-10
Test E 700mg wk wk10-14
Deca 500mg wk 1-12
Tren 75 mg ED wk10-14
Anavar 60mg ED wk9-14
Nolva
Letro
PCT

I was wondering how i should run HCG all through my cycle would i do 500iu every 4th week?

Anyways this will be my last cycle for a couple of years and i will just do shows using clen and anavar. (And i mean it when i saw i will be DONE!)

Stats
5'10
195lb

Help would be appreciated. Thanks

AG5678

[G-1000]

d-bol 50mg day 1-4
Test E 600mg wk 1-14
Tren-e or hex 400mg wk1-12
Anavar 60mg ED wk9-16
1-12 b-6 200mg day
1-14 l-dex 1.0 day

[topvega]

i don't think deca and tren shld b run together... also if u have never used tren b4 i wld use tren a if u can handle ed injections... it will b easier to lower the dosage if your sides come on strong or up it if u don't get any at all.. from what i have researched u have to walk a fine line with tren, u don't want no sides cause that means your dose is probably to weak, but u don't want the sides to strong either... jmo... i am hitting the tren up next cycle and will b using tren a with test e...

[AG5678]

Yes i meant Tren A.

AG5678

[G-1000]

there is no need for deca when running tren. the tren is more the power full enugh for great gains.

[AG5678]

there is no need for deca when running tren. the tren is more the power full enugh for great gains.

So you would pick Tren A over Deca anyday? From what i've read from Hookers profiles Deca you keep almost all of your gains is that the same way with Tren A?

Thanks

AG5678

[Ejuicer]

A lot of stuff for a second cycle...What was your first cycle like?

[G-1000]

deca vs tren. tren pisses all over deca.

[topvega]

deca vs tren. tren pisses all over deca.

i can't wait for my next cycle so tren can piss all over me... i wish i had gone with the tren this cycle...

[AG5678]

deca vs tren. tren pisses all over deca.

hahahaha thanks bro. You always come in when times are tough......

Then forsure i'm doing
Test,Tren,Var

Could i throw EQ in the mix or would i still be asking for a lot of problems?

And how could i run HCG every 4th week?

Ejuicer my 1st cycle was
Test E 500mg wk wk1-10 (QV SUX)
Dbol 30 wk1-4 (QV SUX)
Nolva
PCT

AG5678

[G-1000]

dont add eq in this cycle. you all ready have more gear then you know what to do with.

hcg i would run weeks 7 and 12

[AG5678]

dont add eq in this cycle. you all ready have more gear then you know what to do with.

hcg i would run weeks 7 and 12

your right.

Last final Q how long do i run Tren A? i looked in Hookers thread and around posts and even your threads and couldn't find it...

Test E 700mg wk 1-14
Tren A 75mg ED ???? (How long?)
Anavar 60mg ED 9-16
Nolva
PCT

AG5678

[G-1000]

d-bol 50mg day 1-4
Test E 600mg wk 1-14
Tren-a 125mg eod wk1-8 that is 435mg a week
Anavar 60mg ED wk8-16
1-12 b-6 200mg day
1-14 l-dex 1.0 day

[G-1000]

you can run test prop with tren-a the you just shoot ed/eod bolth of them

[Ejuicer]

d-bol 50mg day 1-4
Test E 600mg wk 1-14
Tren-a 125mg eod wk1-8 that is 435mg a week
Anavar 60mg ED wk8-16
1-12 b-6 200mg day
1-14 l-dex 1.0 day

That cycle looks pretty good. The only change I would personally make is switch the d-bol for drol. Test/tren/drol is the best mass builder i've ever done.

[AG5678]

Thanks guys! I'm going to read more on Drol....

I don't know if i will do Dbol again reason being i didn't like the way i basically lost everything after i got off of it.

Whats the b6 supposed to do?

AG5678

[jeagles1]

I agree with Gsxxr Prop and tren ED is what my next cycle is going to be and from what I here it is an amazing stack I will keep you posted on it. Also this is my third cycle and I am stacking it with Drol and winny so we'll see but Gsxxr knows his stuff and I agree with his Prop Tren combo.

[JohnnyB]

Second cycle use the deca and test, but you have to much going on there for a second cycle, hell for any cycle, remember KISS, plus those doses are high as well.

Don't try and reach your gaols in one cycle. More gear doesn't mean better results, it just mean more of a chance of negative side effects

JohnnyB

[jeagles1]

Agreed my third cycle isn't even with the amounts that u are using. My second cycel was Sust/Deca/Dbol and it worked great.

[mohawkman]

b6 keeps progesteron levels low reducing the chance of tren or deca related gyno

[AG5678]

Second cycle use the deca and test, but you have to much going on there for a second cycle, hell for any cycle, remember KISS, plus those doses are high as well.

Don't try and reach your gaols in one cycle. More gear doesn't mean better results, it just mean more of a chance of negative side effects

JohnnyB

Yea that is what i was thinking. I should stick to Deca and Test (maybe Drol) and still try to BULK because i'm only 195lb....

My third cycle is where prop and tren should come in.....

More replies would help

Thanks
AG5678

[AG5678]

Instead of starting a new thread is tren used as a mass builder also...?

I thought it was for getting really lean and cuts a lot of b/f?

I'm a little confused on that between the Deca and Tren.

AG5678

[G-1000]

d-bol 50mg day 1-4
Test E 500mg wk 1-14
deca 400mg wk1-13
Anavar 60mg ED wk9-16
1-12 b-6 200mg day
1-14 l-dex 1.0 day

ok if you wont to do a deca cycle you can run it somthing like this.

[G-1000]

Instead of starting a new thread is tren used as a mass builder also...?
tren can be run for bulking or cutting

I'm a little confused on that between the Deca and Tren.
what are you confused about.