This is a similar post, but I couldnt help posting this... about Kanye West after....

[Jdawg50]

Seeing the cover of Time Magazine From last week. Its says "why he's the smartest man in pop music". After watching this video, if he is the smartest man in pop music.... Then I really feel sorry for pop music.

http://media.putfile.com/Kanye79


I bet Time Magazine feels really stupid now.


http://www.time.com/time/magazine/ar...096499,00.html

The first time Kanye West asked the folks at Roc-A-Fella records to let him rap, there was an uncomfortable silence. As a producer, West had churned out hits for Roc-A-Fella's intimidating trio of stars--Jay-Z, Cam'ron and Beanie Siegel--and earned praise for his great ear and tireless ethic. But in 2002 the idea that someone like West could be a successful rapper was faintly absurd. "Kanye wore a pink shirt with the collar sticking up and Gucci loafers," recalls Damon Dash, then Roc-A-Fella CEO. "It was obvious we were not from the same place or cut from the same cloth." Says Jay-Z: "We all...

[CRUISECONTROL]

hes a fukin idiot

[BUBBA74]

We'll he isnt that bright of a person blurting something like that out in the open on tv but that doesnt mean he doesnt know what he's doing behind the scenes in the music industry.

[CRUISECONTROL]

We'll he isnt that bright of a person blurting something like that out in the open on tv but that doesnt mean he doesnt know what he's doing behind the scenes in the music industry.

He came out with a song about Jesus and everyone jumped on it cause it was different (who raps about Jesus?) But then he comes out on the VMA's and comes out cussing and raps about women and sex

He's a fukin idiot!!!!!!!!! JMHO

[Jdawg50]

We'll he isnt that bright of a person blurting something like that out in the open on tv but that doesnt mean he doesnt know what he's doing behind the scenes in the music industry.

The Quote was "the smartest man in pop music"..... Like I said if he's the smartest... then that is pretty darn sad.

[elcapitan]

He came out with a song about Jesus and everyone jumped on it cause it was different (who raps about Jesus?) But then he comes out on the VMA's and comes out cussing and raps about women and sex

He's a fukin idiot!!!!!!!!! JMHO

I couldn't agree more

Kayne for president!!

[livewire57]

He is not an idiot, you are all idiots if you dont think Bush doesnt care about black people. How many blacks did he execute while he was Governor of Texas? Many hundreds of them. I doubt he lost much sleep over these executions, or gave much thought as to how many of these people were actually guilty and deserved to die when he had the power to overturn as many of these executions as he wanted to. Shit, how would you feel if a black president killed 500 white people while he was governor, many under questionable circumstances? If i was black I would hate prez Bush.

BTW I am not black, just anti-Bush, anti-republican, anti-Fox News, but I love that Bill O'Reilly for some reason.

[Jdawg50]

He is not an idiot, you are all idiots if you dont think Bush doesnt care about black people. How many blacks did he execute while he was Governor of Texas? Many hundreds of them. I doubt he lost much sleep over these executions, or gave much thought as to how many of these people were actually guilty and deserved to die when he had the power to overturn as many of these executions as he wanted to. Shit, how would you feel if a black president killed 500 white people while he was governor, many under questionable circumstances? If i was black I would hate prez Bush.

BTW I am not black, just anti-Bush, anti-republican, anti-Fox News, but I love that Bill O'Reilly for some reason.

OK, Lets deconstruct what you just said?

How many blacks did he execute while he was Governor of Texas?Many hundreds of them"..... Really????? HUNDREDS YOU SAY???

Appendix A - EXECUTIONS UNDER GEORGE W. BUSH

1995 - 2000

1995

Clifton Russell
Willie Ray Williams
Jeffrey Motley
Billy Conn Gardner
Samuel Hawkins
Noble Mays
Fletcher Thomas Mann
Ronald Allridge
John Fearance Jr.
Karl Hammond
Vernon Satterwhite
Carl Johnson Jr.
Harold Joe Lane
Bernard Amos
Hai Hai Vuong
Esequel Banda
James Briddle

1996

Leo Jenkins
Kenneth Granviel
Joe Gonzales

1997

Richard Brimage Jr.
John Barefield
David Lee Herman
David Spence
Billy Woods
Kenneth Gentry
Benjamin Boyle
Ernest Orville Baldree
Terry Washington
Anthony Ray Westley
Clifton Belyeu
Richard Drinkard
Clarence Lackey
Bruce Callins
Larry Wayne White
Robert Madden
Patrick Roberts
Kenneth Harris
Davis Losada
Dorsie Johnson
Earl Behringer
David Stoker
Eddie James Johnson
Irineo Montoya
Robert West Jr.
James Carl Lee Davis
Jessel Turner
Benjamin Stone
John Cockrum
Dwight Adanandus
Ricky Lee Green
Kenneth Ransom
Aua Lauti
Aaron Lee Fuller
Michael Sharp
Charlie Lee Livingston
Michael Lockhart

1998

Karla Faye Tucker
Steven Renfro
Jerry Lee Hogue
Joseph Cannon
Lesley Gosch
Frank McFarland
Robert A. Carter
Pedro Cruz Muniz
Clifford Boggs
Johnny Pyles
Leopoldo Narvaiz
Genaro Ruiz Camacho
Delbert Teague
David Castillo
Javier Cruz
Jonathan Nobles
Kenneth McDuff
Daniel Lee Corwin
Jeff Emery
James Meanes

1999

John Glenn Moody
Troy Farris
Martin Vega
Jorge Cordova
Danny Lee Barber
Andrew Cantu
Norman Green
Charles Rector
Robert Excell White
Aaron C. Foust
Jose De La Cruz
Clydell Coleman
William Little
Joseph Stanley Faulder
Charles Daniel Tuttle
Tyrone Fuller
Ricky Blackmon
Charles Anthony Boyd
kenneth Dunn
James Earhart
Joe Trevino
Raymond James Jones
Willis Barnes
William Price Davis
Richard Wayne Smith
Alvin Wayne Crane
Jerry McFadden
Domingo Cantu
Desmond Jennings
John Michael Lamb
Jose Gutierrez
David Long
James Beathard
Robert Atworth
Sammie Felder Jr.

2000

<>Earl Heiselbetz, Jr.
Spencer Goodman
David Hicks
Larry Robison
Billy Hughes, Jr.
Glen McGinnis
James Moreland
Cornelius Goss
Betty Lou Beets
Odell Barnes Jr.
Ponchai Wilkerson
Timothy Gribble
Tommy Ray Jackson
William Kitchens
Michael McBride
James Richardson
Richard Foster
James Clayton
Robert Carter
Thomas Mason
John Burks
Paul Nuncio
Gary Graham
Jessy San Miguel
Orien Joiner
Juan Soria
Brian Roberson
Oliver Cruz
John Satterwhite
Richard Jones
David Gibbs
Jeff Caldwell
Ricky McGinn
Jeffrey Dillingham
Miguel Flores
Stacey Lawton
Garry Miller
Daniel Hittle
Claude Jones

Through Dec. 7, 2000 (152)

http://www.tcadp.org/bush_perry.html

Sorry this does not say thier race bud... maybe you can find that out for me, but I would be willing to bet that a good bunch of these people were,,,..... hmmmmm WHITE?!?!?

Miguel Flores- This guys sounds black?
Richard Jones- How about this guy? Sounds really black to me too.
Billy Hughes, Jr.- I could go on, but I already feed you your lunch.

How would I feel if a govenor executed 500 White people you ask? I would feel fine as long as they were given a fair trial by thier peers. And guess what? These people did regardless of whether they were white black orange or green. Do you have any idea how long people sit on death row awaiting appeals?
OK now it is time for you to shut your mouth..........

[livewire57]

OK, Lets deconstruct what you just said?

How many blacks did he execute while he was Governor of Texas?Many hundreds of them"..... Really????? HUNDREDS YOU SAY???

Appendix A - EXECUTIONS UNDER GEORGE W. BUSH

1995 - 2000

1995

Clifton Russell
Willie Ray Williams
Jeffrey Motley
Billy Conn Gardner
Samuel Hawkins
Noble Mays
Fletcher Thomas Mann
Ronald Allridge
John Fearance Jr.
Karl Hammond
Vernon Satterwhite
Carl Johnson Jr.
Harold Joe Lane
Bernard Amos
Hai Hai Vuong
Esequel Banda
James Briddle

1996

Leo Jenkins
Kenneth Granviel
Joe Gonzales

1997

Richard Brimage Jr.
John Barefield
David Lee Herman
David Spence
Billy Woods
Kenneth Gentry
Benjamin Boyle
Ernest Orville Baldree
Terry Washington
Anthony Ray Westley
Clifton Belyeu
Richard Drinkard
Clarence Lackey
Bruce Callins
Larry Wayne White
Robert Madden
Patrick Roberts
Kenneth Harris
Davis Losada
Dorsie Johnson
Earl Behringer
David Stoker
Eddie James Johnson
Irineo Montoya
Robert West Jr.
James Carl Lee Davis
Jessel Turner
Benjamin Stone
John Cockrum
Dwight Adanandus
Ricky Lee Green
Kenneth Ransom
Aua Lauti
Aaron Lee Fuller
Michael Sharp
Charlie Lee Livingston
Michael Lockhart

1998

Karla Faye Tucker
Steven Renfro
Jerry Lee Hogue
Joseph Cannon
Lesley Gosch
Frank McFarland
Robert A. Carter
Pedro Cruz Muniz
Clifford Boggs
Johnny Pyles
Leopoldo Narvaiz
Genaro Ruiz Camacho
Delbert Teague
David Castillo
Javier Cruz
Jonathan Nobles
Kenneth McDuff
Daniel Lee Corwin
Jeff Emery
James Meanes

1999

John Glenn Moody
Troy Farris
Martin Vega
Jorge Cordova
Danny Lee Barber
Andrew Cantu
Norman Green
Charles Rector
Robert Excell White
Aaron C. Foust
Jose De La Cruz
Clydell Coleman
William Little
Joseph Stanley Faulder
Charles Daniel Tuttle
Tyrone Fuller
Ricky Blackmon
Charles Anthony Boyd
kenneth Dunn
James Earhart
Joe Trevino
Raymond James Jones
Willis Barnes
William Price Davis
Richard Wayne Smith
Alvin Wayne Crane
Jerry McFadden
Domingo Cantu
Desmond Jennings
John Michael Lamb
Jose Gutierrez
David Long
James Beathard
Robert Atworth
Sammie Felder Jr.

2000

<>Earl Heiselbetz, Jr.
Spencer Goodman
David Hicks
Larry Robison
Billy Hughes, Jr.
Glen McGinnis
James Moreland
Cornelius Goss
Betty Lou Beets
Odell Barnes Jr.
Ponchai Wilkerson
Timothy Gribble
Tommy Ray Jackson
William Kitchens
Michael McBride
James Richardson
Richard Foster
James Clayton
Robert Carter
Thomas Mason
John Burks
Paul Nuncio
Gary Graham
Jessy San Miguel
Orien Joiner
Juan Soria
Brian Roberson
Oliver Cruz
John Satterwhite
Richard Jones
David Gibbs
Jeff Caldwell
Ricky McGinn
Jeffrey Dillingham
Miguel Flores
Stacey Lawton
Garry Miller
Daniel Hittle
Claude Jones

Through Dec. 7, 2000 (152)

http://www.tcadp.org/bush_perry.html

Sorry this does not say thier race bud... maybe you can find that out for me, but I would be willing to bet that a good bunch of these people were,,,..... hmmmmm WHITE?!?!?

Miguel Flores- This guys sounds black?
Richard Jones- How about this guy? Sounds really black to me too.
Billy Hughes, Jr.- I could go on, but I already feed you your lunch.

How would I feel if a govenor executed 500 White people you ask? I would feel fine as long as they were given a fair trial by thier peers. And guess what? These people did regardless of whether they were white black orange or green. Do you have any idea how long people sit on death row awaiting appeals?
OK now it is time for you to shut your mouth..........

Fair trial? Most of them couldn't afford a lawyer and were given a shitty public defendant, many of whom were asleep, yes ASLEEP during their client's trials. These people were just whisked through the system and given a quick death sentence. Completely unacceptable in this country.

[Duck of Death]

He is not an idiot, you are all idiots if you dont think Bush doesnt care about black people. How many blacks did he execute while he was Governor of Texas? Many hundreds of them. I doubt he lost much sleep over these executions, or gave much thought as to how many of these people were actually guilty and deserved to die when he had the power to overturn as many of these executions as he wanted to. Shit, how would you feel if a black president killed 500 white people while he was governor, many under questionable circumstances? If i was black I would hate prez Bush.

BTW I am not black, just anti-Bush, anti-republican, anti-Fox News, but I love that Bill O'Reilly for some reason.

.............Kindly supply proof of these accusations of "questionable circumstances". Oh, I forgot, you must have read them in the New York Times.

[Jdawg50]

Fair trial? Most of them couldn't afford a lawyer and were given a shitty public defendant, many of whom were asleep, yes ASLEEP during their client's trials. These people were just whisked through the system and given a quick death sentence. Completely unacceptable in this country.

I documented my section, no go ahead and do the same for me big guy, opening you mouth and allowing garbage to fall out does not make what you say true. So lets see what is fact and fiction. So far, all you have said is fiction, unless you have great documented proof of what you say. You said "hundreds of blacks were executed under Bush" I showed you that only a total of 152 people were executed under Bush while he was govenor. So why don't you try to find something with substance, and show me.

[Jdawg50]

.............Kindly supply proof of these accusations of "questionable circumstances". Oh, I forgot, you must have read them in the New York Times.

The NYT is way to the right of whatever he's been reading.

[Duck of Death]

Fair trial? Most of them couldn't afford a lawyer and were given a shitty public defendant, many of whom were asleep, yes ASLEEP during their client's trials. These people were just whisked through the system and given a quick death sentence. Completely unacceptable in this country.

..Once again, I ask for proof, not bleatings.

[SwoleCat]

OK now it is time for you to shut your mouth..........

It's fine to have constructive debates back/forth, however there is no need for this type of shit.



~SC~

[Jdawg50]

It's fine to have constructive debates back/forth, however there is no need for this type of shit.



~SC~

But its ok to lie and deceive? When people say things thay can't back up. Some times they should be told they are wrong. Why is the "I win" Smilie there in the first place then?

[SwoleCat]

Again, there is no need to talk to other members like that in a demeaning fashion. What I said is not open for debate, it was simple instruction.

Do with that what you will, but remember this is a warning. Just play nice, and go about your argument in a constructive manner and "kill 'em with kindness". You can still "win" an argument w/out being juvenile.

~SC~

[Jdawg50]

Understood, but I still think the above statements were so false they deserved a responce that was harsh. I will be more PC in the future.

[G-13]

He is not an idiot, you are all idiots if you dont think Bush doesnt care about black people. How many blacks did he execute while he was Governor of Texas? Many hundreds of them. I doubt he lost much sleep over these executions, or gave much thought as to how many of these people were actually guilty and deserved to die when he had the power to overturn as many of these executions as he wanted to. Shit, how would you feel if a black president killed 500 white people while he was governor, many under questionable circumstances? If i was black I would hate prez Bush.

BTW I am not black, just anti-Bush, anti-republican, anti-Fox News, but I love that Bill O'Reilly for some reason.

HOw much sleep did you loose? HOw many petitions did you write?

The simple fact is...

[SwoleCat]

Understood, but I still think the above statements were so false they deserved a responce that was harsh. I will be more PC in the future.

Hey, if they are false then attack!

But, u know what I mean.

Thanks bro,
~SC~

[Jdawg50]

Hey, if they are false then attack!

But, u know what I mean.

Thanks bro,
~SC~

NP,
But since I am sucking up my pride and in the future being a good boy, I would love to get a nod for vet status! lol

[CRUISECONTROL]

Dam All these political debates happen in threads but dam if I cant post something that turns political my shit gets deleted or closed

[symatech]

It's fine to have constructive debates back/forth, however there is no need for this type of shit.



~SC~

I don't think he was really out of line man. It's not a real harsh comment he made. Hell in the politics forum people are talking about other people deserving to die...this forum is pretty mild. just my $.02

It seems like you both have worked it out, I just don't think jdawg was really flamming him.

peace

[SwoleCat]

Thanks for your opinion.

~SC~

[Bigen12]

Fair trial? Most of them couldn't afford a lawyer and were given a shitty public defendant, many of whom were asleep, yes ASLEEP during their client's trials. These people were just whisked through the system and given a quick death sentence. Completely unacceptable in this country.

In my opinion the list should be a lot longer.

whisked through the system and given a quick death sentence

I take it you that consider spending over 10 years on death row being "whisked through", that’s not even taking in account the couple of years it takes for the original trial?

It is easy to spout out uninformed opinions, as above.

It is another thing to be able to back up your statements.

[Bigen12]

After seeing the Kanye West video, I think that Laura Ingraham in her book, put it best....

[Jdawg50]

'THE BIG BOO' CROWD HISSES KANYE WEST
Fri Sep 09 2005 10:30:28 ET

The chart topping hip hop rapper star who used a network hurricane fundraiser to charge "George Bush doesn't care about black people" was loudly and lustily booed during last night's NFL kickoff show.

The appearance of Kanye West, who was beamed into the Boston stadium via remote from Los Angeles, received a strongly negative response from the crowd.

"The boos were thunderous and lasted for much of his number," reports the BOSTON GLOBE.

[SMYL_GR8]

'THE BIG BOO' CROWD HISSES KANYE WEST
Fri Sep 09 2005 10:30:28 ET

The chart topping hip hop rapper star who used a network hurricane fundraiser to charge "George Bush doesn't care about black people" was loudly and lustily booed during last night's NFL kickoff show.

The appearance of Kanye West, who was beamed into the Boston stadium via remote from Los Angeles, received a strongly negative response from the crowd.

"The boos were thunderous and lasted for much of his number," reports the BOSTON GLOBE.

Of course he was booed. He was selfish enough to make political banter during a relief concert for the greatest natural disaster (Andrew maybe) in US history. I'm sure the black people starving and dying from disease in the area are glad that he took time to share his political opinion during THEIR relief concert.

[TheMudMan]

The best is after West say that Bush doesn't care about black people the look on Myer's face.

There aren't just black people that are starving and dying there. I hate it when everything comes down to race and then people run with it.

[MASTER]

Lol for whoever sed Richard Jones isnt a black mans name, u mite wna watch Mr. Olympia this year!!