Prop on its own

[pv66]

Most on this site have recommended getting test involved in a cycle in some way. I am still considering what to do for my first stack but am more interested in a cutting cycle than a mass building cycle. Do most of you not suggest prop on its own because of the ED injections? Would doing 150 mg EOD be adequate on its own or should I mix in anavar?

[alluprbdy]

I ran prop only last year @ 50mg ed for 8 weeks put on 30 lbs it was my first cycle, and I responded awesome.

[wolfyEVH]

just run a long estered test. only 2 injections a week. You can cut or bulk on it, all depends on your diet and training routine.

[pv66]

Got a job where I don't think I can put on 30 lbs. Need to be somewhat low profile about the weight I put on. I didn't think the prop would put that much on, but I guess I'm wrong.

[wolfyEVH]

Got a job where I don't think I can put on 30 lbs. Need to be somewhat low profile about the weight I put on. I didn't think the prop would put that much on, but I guess I'm wrong.

all depends on dosing and diet bro.

[jrock38]

First cycles are always the most obvious as you usually blow up.

[pv66]

By long estered you mean cypionate or enanthate? Would you stack with this with anything being its my first cycle, maybe anavar?

[wolfyEVH]

By long estered you mean cypionate or enanthate? Would you stack with this with anything being its my first cycle, maybe anavar?

yes...cyp or enanthate.....test is all you'll need for a first cycle.

[pv66]

Any recommendations for something a bit less obvious? I'm at 5'9" 180, maybe something that would get me maximum to about 190?

[pv66]

Wouldn't test prop be better if I want a cutting first cycle?

[jrock38]

Any recommendations for something a bit less obvious? I'm at 5'9" 180, maybe something that would get me maximum to about 190?

Maybe Anavar on its own???
I would go test E 250mg week for 12 weeks

[alluprbdy]

if you only wanna gain 10 lbs do it naturally dont waste you money.

[pv66]

Is there any truth to the gains not being able to be maintained post cycle?

[pv66]

Well, I just figured going to 210 would be more of a mass building cycle, and something around 190-195 would be more of a cutting cycle.

[wolfyEVH]

if you only wanna gain 10 lbs do it naturally dont waste you money.

i agree.....

[bignbald02]

i gotta keep a low profile too bro. my first cycle was prop 100mg and fina 75 eod for 8 weeks and then prop 100mg everyday for the last 2 weeks and i put on a maintainable hard coat of muscle with some amazing strength gains. best first cycle imo......and no u wont have to worry about daily shots cause of the coupounds half life unless u want a more stable blood level then go for daily shots; but both ways will do the job just fine ;-)

[BG]

Prop is the best test, if you can handle ED injections definitly go with it, less bloat(job wont notice as much) , fast solid gains. I feel affects of prop in 8-10 days, love it!!!!

[TRICK]

i gotta keep a low profile too bro. my first cycle was prop 100mg and fina 75 eod for 8 weeks and then prop 100mg everyday for the last 2 weeks and i put on a maintainable hard coat of muscle with some amazing strength gains.

your avatar is f*ckin hilarious!!

[pv66]

So 100 mg eod would be enough? Do you think I should stack it with something or do it on its own? What about the nolvadex, just keep it on hand if I see any gynecomastia. If not, use it only as PCT?