First Cutting Cycle

[smokeydabear]

I am about to try my first cutting cycle and need a little help from you bros.

My first cycle was test enan at 500mg/week for 10 weeks.

Second cycle was a 12 week cycle of 500mg test enan, 400mg deca and 40mg/day of dbol for the first 4 weeks.

I am looking to throw in some tren acetate or enan this time around, what do you guys recommend I throw in with the tren, and how long/when is good to run the tren? I heard that tren goes well with prop and winny, but I have no idea when to run these for a good cycle or at what mg/week.

[shortie]

Smokey, I think Test E/Eq is an excellent lean mass cycle, also Test E/masteron. Tren is also a good choice with test prop, but you get a lot of injects and some more sides IMO.

[shortie]

If you go with the Tren, go with the Acetate.

[smokeydabear]

Smokey, I think Test E/Eq is an excellent lean mass cycle, also Test E/masteron. Tren is also a good choice with test prop, but you get a lot of injects and some more sides IMO.

What is a good dose for test e and masteron. I would want at least 500mg/week of test, how would I dose the masteron with that? And would I run them the same length of time? I also heard that you have to have a very low bf% to really get the good effects from masteron, I'm not fat but have recently developed a little gut.

[shortie]

Well, you don't need low b/f to get gains from masteron, but the leaner you are the better they show. You could do Test E 5-600mg/wk and Masteron at 400mg/wk for 12 weeks, you could also substitue prop in for the Test E and get leass water ret. Since you be shooting the Masteron EOD, the prop would fit nicely into this.

[shortie]

Test E and EQ:
Wks 1-16
Test E@5-600 mg/wk
Wks 1-14
EQ @ 4-500mg/wk.
This would be an excellent lean bulker IMO.

[longhorn814]

prop/tren a/winny

1-10 75-100mg prop ed
1-8 50-75 mg tren a ed
4-10 50mg winny ed

[smokeydabear]

prop/tren a/winny

1-10 75-100mg prop ed
1-8 50-75 mg tren a ed
4-10 50mg winny ed

Yea this was more of the cycle I was looking to do, and hey your a sox fan, good man!

Are the prop, tren, winny injections painful as hell? Just wondering if I should cut it with some sterile oil or something when shooting. Since this is my first time doing any of those, would 75mg prop ed + 50mg tren ed be very effective or should I up the dose to 100mg + 75mg ed?

[smokeydabear]

or anyone elses input on this?

[longhorn814]

you can drink your winny!! Just get some winny caps. The only reason I suggested 50mg tren ed for starters is to see how you react. IF you dont have bad sides bump it to 75. Make sure you shoot ed will definitely keep the sides down. My next cycle will be prop/tren/masteron. I dont really care for 17aa steroids much. You could try masteron instead of winny if you'd like

[smokeydabear]

Yea winny is liver toxic right? I don't know if I wanna mess with anything that is. If I did throw masteron in the mix, what would a good cycle look like? As far as test prop, tren and masteron?

[smokeydabear]

bump

if i ran...
1-10 75-100mg prop ed
1-8 50-75 mg tren a ed

How would I throw masteron into this cycle as far as dosage and length?

[fred9]

50-75mg mastP ED weeks 5-10

[smokeydabear]

for a prop/tren/mast cycle, would anyone recommend cutting with a little sterile oil? not sure if they are painful injects or not

[shortie]

Prop can be very painful, just depends on the user IMO. I would shoot it a while un-cut and see how you react. Then make a decision about cutting.

[smokeydabear]

seems logical.. but what about tren acetate or masteron, are they generally painful injects?

[joop]

I am currently on a prop/tren/masteron/winny cycle and have not found the injections to be painful at all. Only annoyance is the number of injections.