Good cycle to stay hard, lean not bloat?

[sassy69]

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(no this is not for me... its for a guy...)

Don't want to use tren or test - what's a good way to go? Some thoughts - t-bol or winny? T-bol AND winny? Other?

[briansauras]

winny, masteron, primo but you should use prop with them.

[Alex2]

If he doesn't want to run Test at all, then Var is a good choice if his goal is to gain few pounds of LMM.