Dianbol only cycle , the best!

[Hellmaskbanned]

Ok, I have a friend who is about to do a dbol cycle. What effect does this have on ones size and strength? He is around 280lbs now , and doesn't workout much at all (Genetic freak if you will). I am stronger and at 240lbs as of now. So my question is, will he surpass me in every lift and be over 300lbs after this shit? How keepable are the gains, will he lose just about everything when off?

[Hellmaskbanned]

How does anavar compare to dbol in strength gains?

[magicstick2003]

he will lose most once he stops taking dbol... and ill bloat up a lot from it during his run with it. i think dbol blows var away for strength..

[Hellmaskbanned]

he will lose most once he stops taking dbol... and ill bloat up a lot from it during his run with it. i think dbol blows var away for strength..

So nobody keeps any gains from dbol huh? Basically dbol bloats the cells full of water, increases strength drastically, raises bloodpressure, then once off the water goes and so does the strength?
Is it possible he could gain 20lbs (first cycle), would it look like this 12lbs=water, other 8lbs muscle?


I thought anavar was known for strength gains??? that expensive weak shit.

[magicstick2003]

So nobody keeps any gains from dbol huh? Basically dbol bloats the cells full of water, increases strength drastically, raises bloodpressure, then once off the water goes and so does the strength?
Is it possible he could gain 20lbs (first cycle), would it look like this 12lbs=water, other 8lbs muscle?


I thought anavar was known for strength gains??? that expensive weak shit.

not saying no1 keeps gaisn from dbol. Just that it's my opinion he will be dissappointed with his results when all is said and done because once the water retention goes aways his size will decrease alot which will equae to less gains in his mind and such.. besicaly sounds like he is kinda being a puss about injecting... but in any case you said he doesn;t even really work out... is he just looking for a quick fix or something??? *spring break is coming up.... i'd get his ass into the gym and get him on a regualr routine and have him build natural before he jumps on anything...

[dirtyvegas]

So nobody keeps any gains from dbol huh? Basically dbol bloats the cells full of water, increases strength drastically, raises bloodpressure, then once off the water goes and so does the strength?
Is it possible he could gain 20lbs (first cycle), would it look like this 12lbs=water, other 8lbs muscle?


I thought anavar was known for strength gains??? that expensive weak shit.

That is exactly my experience with dianabol. the gains are gone vary fast after you stop.

Anavar is by far way over exagerated IMO. I wouldnt take anything below 60mg ED.

[anabolicvenom]

yeah he will lose almost everything but he might keep a couple pounds !!

[powerbolicroid]

I actually was on anavar by its self i eat the stuff for my lunch when on you see more muscle definition you look rock solid when doing workouts as for d,bol , never took it alone

[longhorn814]

he will most likely lose a good portion of his gains b/c they are attributed to water retention from dbol. He better have some nolva on hand too incase gyno starts to rear its ugly head!!

[Hellmaskbanned]

he will most likely lose a good portion of his gains b/c they are attributed to water retention from dbol. He better have some nolva on hand too incase gyno starts to rear its ugly head!!

Yeah I told him to get nolva. Gotta look out for my bruh.
I don't like being surpassed by flys in disguise.

[Anabolios]

yeah wait til he loses his sex drive then youll be baggin all the bitches cuz he wont get hard

[Hellmaskbanned]

yeah wait til he loses his sex drive then youll be baggin all the bitches cuz he wont get hard

Oh yeah.

[hardgainer12]

I always thought a d-bol only cycle was pointless! Thats what ive heard from everybody on this forum

[Hellmaskbanned]

I always thought a d-bol only cycle was pointless! Thats what ive heard from everybody on this forum

Yeah me to.
Theres alot I hear on this forum that I disagree with, and theres alot I agree with.

[Tiftan090]

You can tell him he will have very keep-able gyno. Get him some Tbol instead..

[Hellmaskbanned]

You can tell him he will have very keep-able gyno. Get him some Tbol instead..

How is that if he's taking nolva?

[Spyder]

How is that if he's taking nolva?

Sometimes, Nolva is useless against Gyno. Even with all the anti-e's on the planet there is still chance of gyno especially when you are holding alot of fat/water in the first place. That said, do a proper cycle, why risk it for a few lbs of water?

[Hellmaskbanned]

You can tell him he will have very keep-able gyno. Get him some Tbol instead..

Dianabol has a much higher anabolic/androgenic ratio then T-bol.
D-bol builds more muscle and also more water!

[Cfh_Y_guy]

Ok, I have a friend who is about to do a dbol cycle. What effect does this have on ones size and strength? He is around 280lbs now , and doesn't workout much at all (Genetic freak if you will). I am stronger and at 240lbs as of now. So my question is, will he surpass me in every lift and be over 300lbs after this shit? How keepable are the gains, will he lose just about everything when off?

First of all, his test will deplete, then the water retention will kick in, then he'll store fat... my honest opion, run test instead of the dbol.

[tbjake34]

d-bol only cycle is pointless, just do some test e.

[Hellmaskbanned]

d-bol only cycle is pointless, just do some test e.

Says tailback jake that hasn't done a cycle yet.......
anybody here done a dbol only cycle? what did you get out of it?
Anthony Roberts aka hooker, did one I believe and he liked it alot....

[Hellmaskbanned]

Smak you 250 yet?

[vitor]

When d-bol is used with nolva/proviron or letro, there will be no bloating at all. How much you keep from a cycle depends on how fast you recover HPTA. Its not anymore difficult to keep muscle gains from d-bol than anything else. Most people who do it, doesnt use estrogen blockers, so they think there losing all the gains when the water is gone!!

[dive_kid]

When d-bol is used with nolva/proviron or letro, there will be no bloating at all. How much you keep from a cycle depends on how fast you recover HPTA. Its not anymore difficult to keep muscle gains from d-bol than anything else. Most people who do it, doesnt use estrogen blockers, so they think there losing all the gains when the water is gone!!

this is not true.
nolva will not eliminate water bloat. anti-estrogens do help but not much. in my opinion nolva does jack shit to decrease bloat. it is however important to use an anti-e to prevent gyno. I have heard letro is better good for bloat but I have never used it

[vitor]

this is not true.
nolva will not eliminate water bloat. anti-estrogens do help but not much. in my opinion nolva does jack shit to decrease bloat. it is however important to use an anti-e to prevent gyno. I have heard letro is better good for bloat but I have never used it

Nolva will be used to prevent gyno, and letro/proviron will eliminate bloat! Where did I ever state that nolva will cut bloat?

[dive_kid]

[QUOTE=vitor]When d-bol is used with nolva/proviron or letro, there will be no bloating at all. QUOTE]
right here.
again I will say, anti-estrogens will not stop bloat. not nolva, letro or proviron. it will help to a small degree but bloating will be noticeable

[vitor]

[QUOTE=dive_kid]

When d-bol is used with nolva/proviron or letro, there will be no bloating at all. QUOTE]
right here.
again I will say, anti-estrogens will not stop bloat. not nolva, letro or proviron. it will help to a small degree but bloating will be noticeable

When you drive estrogen-levels down to almost zero, which is possible with letro/proviron, bloating is impossible! End of storry....

[powerliftmike]

[QUOTE=vitor]

When you drive estrogen-levels down to almost zero, which is possible with letro/proviron, bloating is impossible! End of storry....

Actually this isn't true. Androgens can produce water retention independent of estradiol.

[vitor]

[QUOTE=powerliftmike]

Actually this isn't true. Androgens can produce water retention independent of estradiol.

Are you sure? Ive never heard of that. When I use proviron/letro, ime so dry I feel like a statue!

[dive_kid]

[QUOTE=powerliftmike]

Actually this isn't true. Androgens can produce water retention independent of estradiol.

When you drive estrogen-levels down to almost zero, which is possible with letro/proviron, bloating is impossible! End of storry....

I did not write this. it was vitors quote.

I agree with you 100%

[nirish_mark20]

you have almost 600 posts and u dont know that Dbol only cycles are really bad! man u need to research!

Test is required, end of story! oral only cycles are a waste of time, not to mention HPTA shutdown amongst others!

[vitor]

you have almost 600 posts and u dont know that Dbol only cycles are really bad! man u need to research!

Test is required, end of story! oral only cycles are a waste of time, not to mention HPTA shutdown amongst others!

Where did I say that d-bol only cycles are good???

[nirish_mark20]

Where did I say that d-bol only cycles are good???

eh...did i mention your name at all!

i was talking about the guy that started this thread!

[Hellmaskbanned]

you have almost 600 posts and u dont know that Dbol only cycles are really bad! man u need to research!

Test is required, end of story! oral only cycles are a waste of time, not to mention HPTA shutdown amongst others!

I know personally that a dbol cycle is not part of my plan, but for HIS goals thats another story.

Test moonfaces you up like the michelin man too. you loose half your gains with test also. Oral only cycles are not a waste. Thats like saying Injectable cycles are a waste... Can't call out all do to a few. HPTA shutdowns??? You think injectables don't shut down your HPTA??

His stats
6'3'' 280lbs I would say around 15-18% bf

Alot of responses thanks bros.

[nirish_mark20]

I know personally that a dbol cycle is not part of my plan, but for HIS goals thats another story.

Test moonfaces you up like the michelin man too. you loose half your gains with test also.
You wont lose half your gains if you do it properly, proper diet, proper pct, and proper training during AND after the cycle! SO you lose half your gains, what about the pros who use test?? Its the king of all cycles, should be in every one IMO

Oral only cycles are not a waste. Thats like saying Injectable cycles are a waste... Can't call out all do to a few. HPTA shutdowns??? You think injectables don't shut down your HPTA??
yes injectables can shut down your HPTA but at least if your using a test you are "replacing" the test that your body is no longer creating! Oral only cycle will shut you down and theres nothing there to compensate for this lack of testosterone. try doing A SEARCH for DBOL ONLY CYCLES

His stats
6'3'' 280lbs I would say around 15-18% bf

Alot of responses thanks bros.

See BOLD

and if hes your friend, you wouldnt want him to mess up. just tell him to harden up and take the needles

[Hellmaskbanned]

See BOLD

and if hes your friend, you wouldnt want him to mess up. just tell him to harden up and take the needles

Alot of talk from someone with no cycles under his belt.
You don't keep all gains from test cycles , end of story.
What about the pros? There injecting so much shit into there body on a daily basis they can't lose , they just keep gaining.
Yes test is the king of all cycles for bodybuilders, but others don't need it to get what they need acomplished.
HPTA..... Test completely shuts you down off cycle HARD, and you need a full blown pct and sometimes you do not recover well.
Why search dbol cycles? I've done enough research on AAS were I'm getting sick of it. Was just wanting some personal experiences of it's strength/mass gains alone.

[Swifto]

Alot of talk from someone with no cycles under his belt.
You don't keep all gains from test cycles , end of story.
What about the pros? There injecting so much shit into there body on a daily basis they can't lose , they just keep gaining.
Yes test is the king of all cycles for bodybuilders, but others don't need it to get what they need acomplished.
HPTA..... Test completely shuts you down off cycle HARD, and you need a full blown pct and sometimes you do not recover well.
Why search dbol cycles? I've done enough research on AAS were I'm getting sick of it. Was just wanting some personal experiences of it's strength/mass gains alone.

So what if he hasnt done any/many cycles? Doesnt mean he doesnt know his stuff. I've done one cycle, so....Does that mean I know a tiny little bit about AS and its effects?

[magicstick2003]

I know personally that a dbol cycle is not part of my plan, but for HIS goals thats another story.

Test moonfaces you up like the michelin man too. you loose half your gains with test also. Oral only cycles are not a waste. Thats like saying Injectable cycles are a waste... Can't call out all do to a few. HPTA shutdowns??? You think injectables don't shut down your HPTA??

His stats
6'3'' 280lbs I would say around 15-18% bf

Alot of responses thanks bros.

from my experience this is only semi-true.. test can moon face the shit out of u however if ldex or adex is used to cut down on water retention this can be avoided. And the losing half gains thing i have also found to untrue. For instance me and my buddy both did the same cycle. cept i threw in adex to cut down on water retention. He moonfaced bad where i had little water retention. as for the gain loss. i only went down about 5 pounds after pct and everything where as he went down i think around 10, but thats due to the water he was holding. we ended up being up like 15 pounds or so overall...
i am going to agree with everyone on here in saying dbol only would be a waste. because the gains off it are so short lived and it shuts you down just as much as any other AS some may argue more. i mean y shut yourself down for a 4 week dbol cycle when recovery could take just as long as a 12 week test e cycle.... in the end the test e in my mind yields more gains and is doing the same thing as the dbol in regards to shutdown.

[Hellmaskbanned]

from my experience this is only semi-true.. test can moon face the shit out of u however if ldex or adex is used to cut down on water retention this can be avoided. And the losing half gains thing i have also found to untrue. For instance me and my buddy both did the same cycle. cept i threw in adex to cut down on water retention. He moonfaced bad where i had little water retention. as for the gain loss. i only went down about 5 pounds after pct and everything where as he went down i think around 10, but thats due to the water he was holding. we ended up being up like 15 pounds or so overall...
i am going to agree with everyone on here in saying dbol only would be a waste. because the gains off it are so short lived and it shuts you down just as much as any other AS some may argue more. i mean y shut yourself down for a 4 week dbol cycle when recovery could take just as long as a 12 week test e cycle.... in the end the test e in my mind yields more gains and is doing the same thing as the dbol in regards to shutdown.

Test bloats you dbol bloats you. Use anti E's with test=less bloat use them with dbol=less bloat, works with both.

I would NEVER do a dbol only cycle myself!
But the drug is not shit, it's very powerful compared to many others.

Does anybody know how the strength gains from dbol compare to test?

[magicstick2003]

Test bloats you dbol bloats you. Use anti E's with test=less bloat use them with dbol=less bloat, works with both.

I would NEVER do a dbol only cycle myself!
But the drug is not shit, it's very powerful compared to many others.

Does anybody know how the strength gains from dbol compare to test?

im confused how come u keep defending dbol onlys so much but aren;t even planning one lol... like i said i would never do a dbol only soley for the shut down reason i said.