Need some quick cycle advice/comments.

[Toenail Juice Z]

OK, i'm done with long lasting cycles and tomorrow i'm starting a quick burst cycle. I just wanna hear some opinions and need a couple of questions answered:

Cycle:

Days 1-10: 350mg/d (All-test)-(Sustanon type steroid)
Days 10-20: 200mg/d Deca
Days 20-30: 100mg/d Tren-Hexa
Days 30-40: 50mg/d Winstrol Tabs

PCT(Starting Day 42) HCG 5 x every 3rd day, Clomid 100mg first week then 50 the next 2, Nolva at 20mg/d for 2 weeks


Diet's the usual 4-5000 cals with 2g of protein per pound of bodyweight, moderate carbs & low fat.


ok the questions are...
1) Does anyone think I should do the tren at the end & why?
2) Could I substitute the post workout simple carb/dextrose with Dymatize Xpand?
2) When's the best time of the day to take ALA (supplement)?
3) When's the best time to take Vitamin B Complex?
4) """"" Vitamin C
5) I got some HMB...Is it worth using? If yes, again when's the best time?
6) I got some liver support tabs with milk thistle. Would it be best to save that until I start the tren & winstrol? (Since test & Deca are very mild on the liver)

Any advice will be appreciated. Thanx.

[Toenail Juice Z]

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[taiboxa]

OK, i'm done with long lasting cycles and tomorrow i'm starting a quick burst cycle. I just wanna hear some opinions and need a couple of questions answered:

Cycle:

Days 1-10: 350mg/d (All-test)-(Sustanon type steroid)
Days 10-20: 200mg/d Deca
Days 20-30: 100mg/d Tren-Hexa
Days 30-40: 50mg/d Winstrol Tabs

PCT(Starting Day 42) HCG 5 x every 3rd day, Clomid 100mg first week then 50 the next 2, Nolva at 20mg/d for 2 weeks


Diet's the usual 4-5000 cals with 2g of protein per pound of bodyweight, moderate carbs & low fat.


ok the questions are...
1) Does anyone think I should do the tren at the end & why? Tren is extremely suppressive.. and w/ a longer ester takes a while to kick in and the metabolites will hang around especially near the end and during pct hindering recovery.
2) Could I substitute the post workout simple carb/dextrose with Dymatize Xpand? dextrose is far better IMO, but u kan do wat u want
2) When's the best time of the day to take ALA (supplement)? W/ Pro/Carb Meals
3) When's the best time to take Vitamin B Complex? breakfast and nighttime meal
4) """"" Vitamin C 1-2grams a day morning and preworkout
5) I got some HMB...Is it worth using? If yes, again when's the best time? i dont like it
6) I got some liver support tabs with milk thistle. Would it be best to save that until I start the tren & dbol? (Since test & Deca are very mild on the liver) sure test/deca dont have any affects on liv
Any advice will be appreciated. Thanx.

LOL i dont even knwo where to begin but that is KRAP LOL

FIRST OF RUN TEST THROUGH WHOLE CYCLE LOL otherwise ur hurting ur self and recovery. but ur choice
UR USING THE WRONG ESTERS for a short cycle.. BIG NONO
u dont even give them time to stabilize blood levels!
cycle is just POOP LOL i dont even know how to explain it

[hosam4ever]

u should plane ur cycle it even cant be called a cycle if u wanna a short cycle then stick with short esters but not deca & sus

[Toenail Juice Z]

LOL i dont even knwo where to begin but that is KRAP LOL

FIRST OF RUN TEST THROUGH WHOLE CYCLE LOL otherwise ur hurting ur self and recovery. but ur choice
UR USING THE WRONG ESTERS for a short cycle.. BIG NONO
u dont even give them time to stabilize blood levels!
cycle is just POOP LOL i dont even know how to explain it

FIRST OF RUN TEST THROUGH WHOLE CYCLE LOL otherwise ur hurting ur self and recovery. but ur choice

Why do you say that? By day 10 I would have injected 3500mg, and the longest esters in sustanon have an active half life of around 18 DAYS!. I'll add some proviron the last week of the cycle if I have any libido problems.

UR USING THE WRONG ESTERS for a short cycle.. BIG NONO
u dont even give them time to stabilize blood levels!

To me this is completely wrong. .
Look what I am trying to do is keep the steroid at it's "most powerful level." Usually a steroids peak effectiveness is when it's at its half life. The purpose of this cycle is such!



Thanks for the advice.

But I have to laugh about the poop cycle comment.

It's a well known fact that on this board, injecting once a week cycles seem to have become the rule of the thumb.

I advise you to read Building the Perfect Beast and Chemical Muscle Enhancement by L.Rea. It goes against everything that's preached on this board. It should change the way you think about cycling and come to realize what the pros are doing!!

[Streitingen]

If a short cycle like this should have any keepable gains, I'ld go for:
Test prop @100mg ED
Tren @75-100mg ED
Winny @100mg ED

[Toenail Juice Z]

It amuses me to see you all laugh at my cycle. Why not give it a try and then see if you laugh???

It's what I think the pros do. No one will admit it on here.

Basically this is the cycle theory.

1.Adrogen Phase (all testerones,dianabol,anabolon etc)*
2.Anabolic Phase (GH,Insulin,T3,T4,creatine,ktlp)*
3.Catabolic Phase(Cytadren,proviron,Prohormones,Nolvadex,HCG,R emeron,etc)

In the 1st phase we have the androgens that prevail with a high Anabolic ratio

In the 2nd phase, the anabolics dominate and we try to keep cortisol at low levels

In the 3rd phase we try to keep the androgens low, while trying to keep cortisol at minimal levels, but in this phase we try to keep anabolics as high as possible.

We then start again with phase 1
(phase 2 basically cleanses your body and especially the liver)

Each phase lasts approx 25-30 days, (depends on what chemicals you decide to use).

Now about the chemicals you decide to use
Obviously each chemical has a different active life in the body. I believe (and correct me if i'm wrong) that the strongest part of the chemical inside your body is when it's at it's half life.
So lets say a steroids life is 20 days, it's strongest and most efective on day 10 (this day is what we must prolong)


I believe a good novice blitz cycle to be sth like this:
T.S. is SUSTANON NOT SUSPENSION.
Days
Avandia (Insulin Drug)
1 T.S 250mg Days 20-30 2mg
2 T.S 250mg Days 20-40 4mg
3 T.S 250mg
4 T.S 250mg
5 T.S 250mg
6 T.S 250mg
7 T.S 250mg
8 T.S 250mg
9 T.S 250mg
10 T.S 250mg
11 Deca 250mg
12 Deca 250mg
13 Deca 250mg
14 Deca 250mg
15 Deca 250mg
16 Deca 250mg
17 Deca 250mg
18 Deca 250mg
19 Deca 250mg
20 Deca 250mg
21 Clen 80mcg
22 Clen 80mcg
23 Ephe 75mg
24 Ephe 75mg
25 Clen 80mcg
26 Clen 80mcg
27 Ephe 75mg
28 Ephe 75mg
29 Clen 100mcg
30 Clen 100mcg
31 Ephe 150mg
32 Ephe 150mg
33 Clen 100mcg
34 Clen 100mcg
35 Ephe 150mg
36 Ephe 150mg
37 Clen 120mcg
38 Clen 120mcg
39 Ephe 150mg
40 Ephe 150mg
41 Clen 120mcg

42-65 Remeron 15mg/proviron 50mg/Nolvadex 20mg
45 HCG 1000iu
48 HCG 1000iu
50 HCG 1000iu
52 HCG 1000iu
54 HCG 1000iu
56 HCG 1000iu
58 HCG 1000iu
60 HCG 1000iu
62 HCG 1000iu

Anyone who agrees/disagrees please reply. I'de like to see other point of views and also your own views on this. Thanks.

[marcus300]

LOL i dont even knwo where to begin but that is KRAP LOL

FIRST OF RUN TEST THROUGH WHOLE CYCLE LOL otherwise ur hurting ur self and recovery. but ur choice
UR USING THE WRONG ESTERS for a short cycle.. BIG NONO
u dont even give them time to stabilize blood levels!
cycle is just POOP LOL i dont even know how to explain it

long ester can be used for short heavy cycles,
id cut the cycle down to 30 days and re-design it,
short cycles do work very well if you know how to design them

[marcus300]

do a search there is plenty of threads regarding the subject,

[taiboxa]

long ester can be used for short heavy cycles,
id cut the cycle down to 30 days and re-design it,
short cycles do work very well if you know how to design them

why DID YOU quote me when u said this ?! LOL

[marcus300]

why DID YOU quote me when u said this ?! LOL

i stated that you can use long esters in a short heavy cycle, you said it was a big no no!

[taiboxa]

i stated that you can use long esters in a short heavy cycle, you said it was a big no no!

yeah i suppose but short esters are like 10x more effective...

[Pinnacle]

i stated that you can use long esters in a short heavy cycle, you said it was a big no no!

Proof is in the pudding,right marcus?Don't waste your time arguing with these kids.They haven't the foggiest ides of what you are talking about

~Pinnacle~

[marcus300]

yeah i suppose but short esters are like 10x more effective...

it all depends on what type of short cycle you are going to do, if its a short heavy cycle long esters can be used for the first 10 days and are as effective as short esters,
dont really understand what you mean with short esters are like 10x more effective!!!!

[marcus300]

Proof is in the pudding,right marcus?Don't waste your time arguing with these kids.They haven't the foggiest ides of what you are talking about

~Pinnacle~

haha haha you know dont you?

[Toenail Juice Z]

yeah i suppose but short esters are like 10x more
effective...

Since when?

Who provides you with your information?

[Toenail Juice Z]

long ester can be used for short heavy cycles,
id cut the cycle down to 30 days and re-design it,
short cycles do work very well if you know how to design them

Can you give me some advice? How about leaving out the tren? I can't usually handle the rage anyhow.

[Toenail Juice Z]

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[marcus300]

try this thread some good advice -http://forums.steroid.com/showthread.php?t=221974

when you use tren with these type of cycles the sides are very dramatic, so id leave it alone unless your very advance

[Toenail Juice Z]

try this thread some good advice -http://forums.steroid.com/showthread.php?t=221974

when you use tren with these type of cycles the sides are very dramatic, so id leave it alone unless your very advance

Cheers mate.