Test Prop, short esters, Heavy short cycle?

[rockdog]

I like to make my own and it's always been great. I decided to try the short heavy cycle, 5 weeks on, 5 weeks off. So I made up some,

413mg/2ml
test prop 200mg
tren a 71mg
NPP 71mg
Masteron 71mg

2ml ed with 1ml b12, I thought this would be perfect. I've never done all short esters like this but I thought this is what you would want so they would clear your system quicker for PCT recovery so you would be able to start the next cycle in 5-7 weeks. Well after 1 week I can't hardly walk and I take pain pretty good, this many mgs is in line with what I would do for a longer cycle with long esters mixed with some short. On a short cycle how do you get the gear without crippling pain??

[Pooks]

I originally had the same train of thought as you..

but than..

will your body really recover in 5 weeks?

[Swifto]

I originally had the same train of thought as you..

but than..

will your body really recover in 5 weeks?

Not sufficient time IMO. Especially when your running very suppressive androgens, like Tren. Time on + PCT = Time Off.

Bloodwork needs to be done inbetween this cycle to see how your body has recovered and if its ready for another go at 5 weeks.

[rockdog]

Not sufficient time IMO. Especially when your running very suppressive androgens, like Tren. Time on + PCT = Time Off.

Bloodwork needs to be done inbetween this cycle to see how your body has recovered and if its ready for another go at 5 weeks.

Ya I will be doing a blood test around off week 5-6, If I can figure out how to get this into a less painfull formula.

[Swifto]

Yeah. I can see that hurting.

I dont like the 5 "on"/ 5 "off" protocol, I think you'de be better staying "on" for 10+ weeks, rather than going "off" again.

[rockdog]

Yeah. I can see that hurting.

I dont like the 5 "on"/ 5 "off" protocol, I think you'de be better staying "on" for 10+ weeks, rather than going "off" again.

Ya I don't know, my gains usually tapper off around week 6 so I thought this might be worth a try.

[IBdmfkr]

How many mL/day? If only 1 mL/day then I wouldn't call that a heavy cycle for 5 wks. I'd split the shot into 1/2 cc and add 1cc of B12 to each 1/2cc of solution.

[rockdog]

How many mL/day? If only 1 mL/day then I wouldn't call that a heavy cycle for 5 wks. I'd split the shot into 1/2 cc and add 1cc of B12 to each 1/2cc of solution.

2ml ed 1ml b12, and I did cut it down to 1/2 cc and tryed a spot and it still after about 12-14hrs after the oil is absorb the pain is still bad. This is why I don't know if I add more oil will it help.

[rockdog]

Anyone have other ideas??

[IBdmfkr]

Not sure you can make such a strong combination less painful, that's why I prefer to mix them separately. Goodluck.