just wondering if it is even worth it? what would be the pros cons ,anybody try this? wanting to use it for a bulker in the summer, along with test, but from what i read its not really recommended? any comments appreciated
just wondering if it is even worth it? what would be the pros cons ,anybody try this? wanting to use it for a bulker in the summer, along with test, but from what i read its not really recommended? any comments appreciated
wow,thats alot from what I've read.
I'll bump this for you and see what
happens. Im curious..
With that much deca, how much test
are you planning? is this your 1st? no
stats in your profile for others to help
you out. You might want to give them
something to go.
Like to see some responses from people that have done this...For my next I am going to do it.800 test 600 deca week,50mg dbol day.will let ya know how things go.....
just finished running deca at 600mg week for weeks 1-8 and test prop at 825mg week for weeks 1-12. i loved it. i got reeally really strong, my bench went from 3 plates for 8 to 4 plates for 6. i also stayued relativly lean with the prop and put on 13 pounds. niot a huge bulker but i didnt want it to be. i wanted to stay lean and just get stronger.
would never use 800/w deca, no more than 600. ALWAYS use testo with deca, actually testo should be in every cycle
from my research, about 600mg deca/wk will fully saturate your receptors. anymore than that and it's just being wasted. doesn't aromatize, so won't do any harm if you got the cash and want to see if your body will soak up more, but 600 seems to be generally accepted as the max necessary for optimum results from the deca.
Few bodies need 800, for almost every user the rest would just "float around" in your body giving you bi`s (well at least not do any good).
And if you fvck around with deca and get gyno, it is much harder to get rid off!
i run deca b4 at 1.5 g ew with very very good gains but my bp fu(ked me up
Yeah, that I believe!
Progestrone sides could become very bothersome when deca is run to high.(prog-gyno, impotence, bloating, recovery problems.)
I would much rather run Primo 2 gram ew. That dose will promote more muscle than 800mgs deca, without the sides of Nadrolone.
"float around" in your body" .....are you serious?Originally Posted by ivrig
progestrone and prolactin induced gyno is not that hard to get rid of.
600mg seems to be the optimal dose,however there are bros who run a gram a week and report good results.I myself use it for its collogen resynthasis properties 200mg is more then enough for this but when I run it I do use 600mg/week as I dont want to leave anything to chanceOriginally Posted by ascendant
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Deca is often used for aiding joints, since the progestron gives you water in your joints (just as winny steals it, that`s why you feel like you have your grampa`s joints).
But the sides of deca are still to be concidered, deca-dick, your natural production of test will collapse at only small amounts,if you get gyno it is harder to get rid of etc
Deca only helps you with your symptoms of joint-pains, it doesn`t cure it.
For people how are careful with their joints and lift hard, i would recommend glucosamin, a while before your cycle, and during it til the end.
Primo is better, but at those doses, i`d rather run a good test cycle
But as always: depends on your goals!
I know several people who has had more problem getting rid of gyno with prog.
ut sure, all bodies are different. Can`t be discussed
Pease post any other experiences
And hey, are you one of those " more is better"????
There is a LIMIT for how much the body can use, the rest will "float"
But do what you will, what do i care..
Just saying that I, would never do that
What else do you want to run with that? How much test in this cycle? How big are you now? It's hard to comment without more details about your unique situation... and your profile says nothing...
More is better with certain compounds,growth is dependent upon the amount of free testosterone available at any given time.I have had great experience with running 4g/week for short (16 week) durations..it gets to be a little expensive though and its always wise to back off a bit here and there.as far as the LIMIT your body can use..I have yet to see this proven anywhere and its only a theory.Im 292lbs right now(avatar pic) Im only cruising on 500mg of test/week for the last 2 months when I kick it up in a few weeks and add a few more compounds (more is better) Im gonna look totally different in a matter of weeks...rest assured..ive been at this for 18yrs,I know what works............for me anyway.Originally Posted by ivrig
I do agree with this. I have run both low and high dosages on intervals and (well, in MY case) more is usually better. I am not saying that it is the recommended thing to go inject yourself with everything you can lay your hands on (this is potentially unsafe and if you don't know what you are doing a very stupid mindset) - my point is that everybody has got their own optimum levels. Mine is (unfortunately - because of cost!) usually high and deca didn't do much for me below the 600mg a week mark. With time you can learn how you react to different dosages - best thing to do is start small and increase it slowly every time you do a cycle. Yes it is possible to read and learn a lot on a board like this, but personal experience and how everything relates to you as an individual differs and is impossible to learn without going through the growing pains yourself.Originally Posted by DEVLDOG
Good information and
nice read guys, thanks.
Im always trying to read
up as much as possible on
the dreaded deca![]()
hey guys thanx for the responses...my cycle history is eq 10 weeks@800, my last cycle was test@600 for 16 (gains stoped at 9), im currently prepping for a contest on test/tren @1gram each (high i know) with winstrol 100mg dialy, im in week 5 and i feel good, besides acne sides dont seem to be an issue for me(yet!)........i wont be running my next cycle till august so i was just throwin it out there to see what u guys have experienced, ill prolly end up stickin with 600 though, but uppin the test to 1200mg maybe, it actually all depends how well i respond to this cycle, all is well, and the diet and tren is getting me very lean....oh ya im 5'7 and 174(down from 184)....appreciate anymore responses
piss on deca.. I mean i love it, i love how i feel on it i love the gains i get from it.. but when i come off it my penis freakin hates me!!! I've never run it over 400 and test has always been 100 higher.. I might give Eq a run next year or something.. but next time its test,dbol,var for me
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