Deca dosage

[swllce]

So im adding in deca to my trt .
My clinic told me to use only 50 mg (1/4 cc) /week along with my 100mg of test C.
Is 50 mg week to low for help with joint issues?
They suggested to not use more than 50mg because of side effects developing like deca dick.
Stuff is pricey so i would be happy at a low dose just as long as it helps heal my shoulder injury faster!

[kelkel]

I think 50 is low. 100-200 more like it for medicinal purposes, joint relief, collagen synthesis. For muscle building a standard would be at least 400+ per week. Don't automatically talk yourself into deca dick.

[swllce]

Found a post here about collagen synthesis, very good read! i think it was by vetteman.Regarding collagen synthesis ,i seem to be lacking in that department, contributing to my injury.
If i have to run deca at 200 mg along with trt, it will force me to stop trt for good,waaay to much$

[zaggahamma]

not too many run it that low...however i think its worth the try...more isnt always better...

imo, i would run it from 100-200 and if i needed to stretch it yes i would run 50/75 to try and see if i got benefits...why not run it at 50 for 2-4 weeks if nothing from that try 75 or 100??????

[swllce]

I don't even know if i can accurately draw 1/4 cc??
I have 3cc syringes but i have trouble reading small amounts.
I think i will start with 100mg/wk deca
My protocol will be 100mg/test c,250 iu HCG 2x/wk ,100mg Nandrolone/wk, .5mg Anastrazole 2x/wk
I might have to bump up the ai because of adding in the hcg and deca in the same week.
Any thoughts?

[JD250]

How long will you run it? It does take a few weeks to notice anything, 100/100 will probably give you some relief, be prepared with some cabor or prami in case you are someone who has to deal with the progesterone sides, I'm one of those people, a little cabor took care of the Deca dick in short order, keep the e2 under control with an AI and you should be fine. My dose was 200 test/150 deca every 5 days for about 16 weeks-ish, my joints sure felt good. Good luck.

[zaggahamma]

I don't even know if i can accurately draw 1/4 cc??
I have 3cc syringes but i have trouble reading small amounts.
I think i will start with 100mg/wk deca
My protocol will be 100mg/test c,250 iu HCG 2x/wk ,100mg Nandrolone/wk, .5mg Anastrazole 2x/wk
I might have to bump up the ai because of adding in the hcg and deca in the same week.
Any thoughts?

1/4 is halfway between .2 and .3 geeeeeeeeez...lol, jk but seriously geeeeeeeeeeez

anyway .....mute point...your going with .5 of each i like your AI atm but like you said..keepin an eye out...maybe add in that 3rd .5 of AI if you notice a slight bloat

my .02

[swllce]

How long will you run it? It does take a few weeks to notice anything, 100/100 will probably give you some relief, be prepared with some cabor or prami in case you are someone who has to deal with the progesterone sides, I'm one of those people, a little cabor took care of the Deca dick in short order, keep the e2 under control with an AI and you should be fine. My dose was 200 test/150 deca every 5 days for about 16 weeks-ish, my joints sure felt good. Good luck.

I have enough to last me 20 weeks at 100mg /wk.I will look into the cabor and prami for sides.

[swllce]

Thanks JP, gotta woyk on my decimal points! Thanks to all for chiming in!!

1/4 is halfway between .2 and .3 geeeeeeeeez...lol, jk but seriously geeeeeeeeeeez

anyway .....mute point...your going with .5 of each i like your AI atm but like you said..keepin an eye out...maybe add in that 3rd .5 of AI if you notice a slight bloat

my .02

[JD250]

BTW.....something that gets overlooked in these low dose deca discussions........you WILL see a difference in the mirror and feel a difference at the gym, it may be a small one but you will notice, good luck.

[hankdiesel]

My joints didn't feel any better from deca. Just my .02

[Vettester]

not too many run it that low...however i think its worth the try...more isnt always better...

imo, i would run it from 100-200 and if i needed to stretch it yes i would run 50/75 to try and see if i got benefits...why not run it at 50 for 2-4 weeks if nothing from that try 75 or 100??????

^^^ Agree

[jamotech]

ill be keeping an eye on your thread, I may doing trt soon also and wanted to add something to the test, but also in a lower dose. Still waiting for test results so I have no idea what my protocol will be, that will determine the dosage of what I add. Probably 200mg/week deca, for joint and overall muscle building.

Good Luck!

[swllce]

Still pondering over what dosage to go with.
Initially i assumed deca would have to be added in along with test all the time while on trt, for collagen synthesis
joint health etc.
I cant lift currently ,been off the weights for 3 months.

After reading up on deca,i contend, it would not be good for your wood, to be on it all the time.
It shuts you down hard, so im happy i have hcg in the old icebox.

I will run the deca as a cycle ,hoping it will help heal my soulders.
3mg per kilo is the reccomended dosage for joint health benefits.
210 pounds is about 90 kg ,3mg x 90kg = 270mg
So i will start off at 200mg /wk and go from there.

[JD250]

That sounds like a solid plan, be aware when you start lifting that your shoulder may feel better than it actually is, don't overdo it.

[zaggahamma]

i thought the assumption was that you would run it in a type of on/off protocoll anyway...as far as deca dik worries...i'm not sure i've heard of a lot of trt low dose test/deca problems...there isnt a lot of it going on to begin with ....i think the biggest complaints of dd is from cycles...i could be wrong...but/so are you going to run 200/200 to start?

[swllce]

200/200 meaning 200 deca 200 T ?
My plan is 100mg test C/week ,200mg Deca /week
I started out my trt at 200 mg Test c ,and blood work came back 2200 total test .Free t was 150s.
I was a wreck.
I hope the deca doesnt drive my ranges out of control again!

[kelkel]

Deca's not test. You will be just fine.

[JD250]

^ that,s true..............I thought you were running 200/200 also..........100/200 might be fine........just keep an eye on your wiener.

[zaggahamma]

keep her eye on it is what he meant

[JD250]

or .... keep it in her eye

[choker28]

more or less the same course ive started 125mg Test E and 200mg of Deca weekly,Used Deca before never had any problems with my Libido

[jamotech]

I ran it once 200mg/week for 8 weeks alone, never had dd. Also never had a problem at higher doses with test, but always used more test that deca.

[swllce]

So im on week 3 at 200 mg deca /100mg test C.Shoulders are still hurting, can't say the deca has made any diffrence.
Leg workouts have been very good though.I could never concentrate on legs beacause of my knees,now i look foward to my leg workouts !
A long term injury like shoulder tendonitis, where you have to lay off upper body excersise ,could easily turn you off the gym.
But i am still going strong ,i haven't lost any mass .I think my arms needed a break anyway ,working the core and lower body is doing it for me, for now.
I will do bloodwork next week .
Still hoisting the sail ok ,lil slower but ok ,morning wood is gone though ,so i will have to look at bloodwork.

[JD250]

It took a few weeks for me, it wasn't like I woke up one morning and my shoulder felt wonderful, it was more like one day I noticed that i wasnt in pain anymore, kinda gradual

[bass]

i agree with JD. i took me 6-8 weeks to notice shoulder pain relief. i was ruining at 100 mgs per week. then did a blast at 300 mgs per week, and felt no difference than the 100! so i agree with JPK regarding more not necessary better!

Vick, the second time around deca will be much better and more effective, i plan to run it at least once a year (20 week at 100 mgs ew). its definitely worth it in my opinion.

[zaggahamma]

So im on week 3 at 200 mg deca /100mg test C.Shoulders are still hurting, can't say the deca has made any diffrence.
Leg workouts have been very good though.I could never concentrate on legs beacause of my knees,now i look foward to my leg workouts !
A long term injury like shoulder tendonitis, where you have to lay off upper body excersise ,could easily turn you off the gym.
But i am still going strong ,i haven't lost any mass .I think my arms needed a break anyway ,working the core and lower body is doing it for me, for now.
I will do bloodwork next week .
Still hoisting the sail ok ,lil slower but ok ,morning wood is gone though ,so i will have to look at bloodwork.

so youre saying youve noticed pain relief in the knees then?

[JD250]

Knees are another benefit, mine only bother me a little after a long day but Deca did help with that also.

the second time around deca will be much better and more effective

That's an interesting observation Bass, are you saying you noticed bigger gains or faster, more relief from pain?

[swllce]

so youre saying youve noticed pain relief in the knees then?

Yes ,Knees are 10x faster to recover,my next trial will be to try running again ,had to give it up years ago because i could not climb stairs for weeks after a 3 mile run.

[swllce]

i agree with JD. i took me 6-8 weeks to notice shoulder pain relief. i was ruining at 100 mgs per week. then did a blast at 300 mgs per week, and felt no difference than the 100! so i agree with JPK regarding more not necessary better!

Vick, the second time around deca will be much better and more effective, i plan to run it at least once a year (20 week at 100 mgs ew). its definitely worth it in my opinion.

I agree ,great addition for those of us with joint issues on trt!I plan to do the same once a year, or twice at 10 weeks at a time

[bass]

Knees are another benefit, mine only bother me a little after a long day but Deca did help with that also.


That's an interesting observation Bass, are you saying you noticed bigger gains or faster, more relief from pain?

better pain relief! i really didn't notice any gains or strength. thats why if i take again it will be 50-100 mgs ew.

[JD250]

That's good, something for me to look forward to. I'm a little surprised that you noticed no strength gains, although it is a low dose. Just being in less pain makes it worth while for me. I like the stuff.

[swllce]

I am now at the end of week 3, 200mg nandrolone /EW
Starting to get some DD issues,can some kind soul pm some info on prami or something to counter act?
Thanks

[JD250]

Make sure you are keeping e2 in check, you can get prami from ARR

[swllce]

Regarding DD,i cut the deca dosage in half 100mg/wk,
wood came back,i suppose it might be a little off when on deca cycle.
Shoulders are still weak,traps, deltoids,rotator muscles are stiff and i get fatiuged after only a few reps with a 1pound wheight.
I am currently working out these issues with a physical therapist.
My hemoglobin count is slightly above normal, i cant help wonder i that has something to do with the muscle fatiuge in deltoids and rotator .
If these parts arent getting the oxygen delivered through the blood properly they would get weak as a result(.Pure speculation on my part)
Its hard to get any info on high hemoglobin sides on the net.

[bass]

yes elevated hemo could affect! i had an issue with my muscle not recovering as good as they should even with TRT so i took the advice was given to me here and started taking vitamin D3, it made an amazing difference! just something to consider.

[JD250]

Bass, what kind of difference? just quick recovery or is there more to it?

[bass]

recovery and felt lighter on my feet, generally less pains and aches on my entire body, kind of made feel a little like my younger self! my D3 was low anyway so thats why i am crediting the D3 for the changes!

[MASTERMIKE 48]

I could be wrong but I was always scooled to run a higher test amount than Deca?

^ that,s true..............I thought you were running 200/200 also..........100/200 might be fine........just keep an eye on your wiener.

[zaggahamma]

I could be wrong but I was always scooled to run a higher test amount than Deca?

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that was a common opinion

however it is pretty much consensus that as long as your running a decent amount of test along side your good to go...example keep your trt dose running and blast away with the deca but most on this forum usually keep within 100-300 deca and 100-200 believed to be best for the joint relief from deca...

when i ran a small blast of deca 5 years ago...i ran equal low doses something like 200 each and had no probs