To the Young Bucks and AAS

[BackSlashREE]

There are an awful lot of young dudes on here gun-ho about gear and aas...

If you are in high school or beginning college you do not want to use AAS. Gear is not what you need to accomplish your goals. I played for a very successful high school football team, many of our stars were on aas some as young as 16 and 17! Most of them did not sustain a successful D1 carreer, regardless of how well it enabled them to perform at the highschool level. Those that succeeded at the college level, and the few from my team that were lucky enough to go on to the NFL were the ones with the most dedicated training in the gym and with the meals.

In addition, at that young of an age you are not physically or mentally able to handle that type of chemicals in your system.

Please do not take offense to the veterans, mods, or admins on this board discouraging you from aas use. They have way more experience and knowledge than you and are only giving you the best advise and giving you info for your best interest.

Eat, Lift, Train as hard and as inteligent as you can and you will be much better off. Eventually if you get to the point where aas may be something to enhance your results do as much homework as you can and listen openly to the advise you get from those who know more than you!

Everyone on this forum wants to get bigger stronger faster etc... but there is no short cut for those results not even AAS

-Ree

[stocky121]

agreed good post

[powerliftmike]

Yeah man. Agreed.

[SS1476]

Nicely said BackSlash, I hope
some take the time to read it.

[MasterShake]

bump this back up to the top...

[Boricua Pump]

Isn't there stickies about how old to be to start AAS? Seems like beating a dead horse. If they wont listen, I doubt this post will magically make them be like, "Well, he's right. I guess I wont."

[MasterShake]

Isn't there stickies about how old to be to start AAS? Seems like beating a dead horse. If they wont listen, I doubt this post will magically make them be like, "Well, he's right. I guess I wont."

i don't know if you've noticed, but most newbs are NOT reading the stickies. so, this is a well placed statement...

[lucabratzi]

i agree with you, especially the part about not being able to handle the chemicals mentally. people have to realize that its a serious drug that ur puttin in ur body and at young ages ur more unstable and can fall into depression alot easier. just monitar everything and keep ur head on striaght when doing aas..

[Testsubject]

This brings to mind a friend of mines little brother. The father was a big juicer and had him while he was on cycle so i dont know if this has anything to with it but this guys thinks he needs juice, at 16! I dont think so! Well he ended up running 500mgs per week of sust and near the end of his cycle he noticed that he was lactating through out the night, so he had to cut it short, now hes talkin' some shit like he want to run 750mgs sust and 400mgs of Deca, when will they learn, quite possibly when its too late.

[Hellmaskbanned]

What makes it more accepted to cycle at an older age or at all? hmmmm...

My point is it's wrong anyway you put it, unless you have a serious illness that requires the use of hormones to cary on with life.

So people don't frown down upon young larva just because of use. SOME younger users have more of a reason than older gents for juicing. Sports etc.
If your 40+ why be big and strong if you can't put it to use in sports etc.? Sports now are very competitive and require the extra , just because AAS is used by so many, especially in power sports. Not as much so as basketball/soccer/tennis. <--I'm sure there is many doing aas in those as well.

Can't see how others can consider there use to be "more accepted" while they are both in the same league. My 2 cents.

[Boricua Pump]

Stickies are there for a reason, however. I agree that this statement, made by the thread starter, is a good one, but the thing is that the young guys that have it set in their minds to do it just don't care. It's a sad thought that people don't care about their bodies in the long term, and just think that steroids will make them a beast.

How many people here say they started to early and regret it. Alot.

[Boricua Pump]

What makes it more accepted to cycle at an older age or at all? hmmmm...

My point is it's wrong anyway you put it, unless you have a serious illness that requires the use of hormones to cary on with life.

So people don't frown down upon young larva just because of use. SOME younger users have more of a reason than older gents for juicing. Sports etc.
If your 40+ why be big and strong if you can't put it to use in sports etc.? Sports now are very competitive and require the extra , just because AAS is used by so many, especially in power sports. Not as much so as basketball/soccer/tennis. <--I'm sure there is many doing aas in those as well.

Can't see how others can consider there use to be "more accepted" while they are both in the same league. My 2 cents.

Because it's MUCH easier for a young person to completely shutdown their test production than it is for someone older. Even the difference from 18 to 24 is a huge one. I read a paper in New England Journal of Medicine a few years back about how a 17 year old baseball player in California was left with the testosterone levels of a pre-pubescent girl after only using Deca!

[BIGRTHABETTR]

I agree, plus your nat. test level and hormones are never the same after AS.

[Hellmaskbanned]

Because it's MUCH easier for a young person to completely shutdown their test production than it is for someone older. Even the difference from 18 to 24 is a huge one. I read a paper in New England Journal of Medicine a few years back about how a 17 year old baseball player in California was left with the testosterone levels of a pre-pubescent girl after only using Deca!

Yeah deca shuts you down..so what. It shuts you down if your 39 or 20. At 20 I'd say your natty test will return much faster than a 39 year olds even without pct. If not , PCT will take care of that.

[Anabolios]

Yeah deca shuts you down..so what. It shuts you down if your 39 or 20. At 20 I'd say your natty test will return much faster than a 39 year olds even without pct. If not , PCT will take care of that.

i do have to say that i agree with you...in almost all cases people below 21 arent ready for aas...but would it be more acceptable for a 200 pound 18 year old to use aas than a 175 pound 26 year old? im not saying that anyone should or shouldnt take steroids at all but i think some cases may warrant it at younger ages for competitive reasons... just my 2 cents as well im sure almost everyone will disagree and i respect everyones opinion but dont be a parrot and chime in just because someone else disagree with me or hellmask

thanks

[Hellmaskbanned]

i do have to say that i agree with you...in almost all cases people below 21 arent ready for aas...but would it be more acceptable for a 200 pound 18 year old to use aas than a 175 pound 26 year old? im not saying that anyone should or shouldnt take steroids at all but i think some cases may warrant it at younger ages for competitive reasons... just my 2 cents as well im sure almost everyone will disagree and i respect everyones opinion but dont be a parrot and chime in just because someone else disagree with me or hellmask

thanks

Yeah of course.

It also depends on experience level. Many younger folk have a much better understanding when it comes to exercise than older folk. Age doesn't always mean knowledge. Of course using at a young age or any age for that matter for the wrong reasons isn't right. They both should be considered equal, not one "correct" and the other "wrong" <---both in the same game.

[speedtraining]

I haven't read everyones posts but as a divison one football player, and knowing alot of different athletes from various sports AAS is being used, I have no problem with it. It's the kids who don't research or have no mentours and abuse it that have the problems. I'm not completely against it but it should be weighed out the postives and negitives.

[ruffrydadd]

I have a little brother in 10th grade, 16 years old. He told me alot of his freinds are already abusing steroids. I almost couldn't beleive 15 and 16 year old kids were ruining themselves like this. The most popular shit is dbol he said. They have no idea what they are doing. What the **** is wrong with these kids?

[Hellmaskbanned]

I have a little brother in 10th grade, 16 years old. He told me alot of his freinds are already abusing steroids. I almost couldn't beleive 15 and 16 year old kids were ruining themselves like this. The most popular shit is dbol he said. They have no idea what they are doing. What the **** is wrong with these kids?

there ignorant.

[neverenuff21]

What makes it more accepted to cycle at an older age or at all? hmmmm...

My point is it's wrong anyway you put it, unless you have a serious illness that requires the use of hormones to cary on with life.

So people don't frown down upon young larva just because of use. SOME younger users have more of a reason than older gents for juicing. Sports etc.
If your 40+ why be big and strong if you can't put it to use in sports etc.? Sports now are very competitive and require the extra , just because AAS is used by so many, especially in power sports. Not as much so as basketball/soccer/tennis. <--I'm sure there is many doing aas in those as well.

Can't see how others can consider there use to be "more accepted" while they are both in the same league. My 2 cents.

Man, I just cant get over this, Hellmask. I agree with its wrong any way you look at it. but it stops there. some young users have more reason? Which ones? I love the juice as much as anyone on here, but lets be honest, when you put aas into sports, it becomes unfair. The origin of sports was probably not who could do more mg's. which is what it is becoming with people like bonds. just because someone's a little faster than you does not mean you take juice. You shake hands, leave the track, and train harder. Be a man, dont juice because the guy next to you is more dedicated to his sport. Its all vanity anyway, I dont care what anybody says. And I feel the 40+ guys have more right to juice than people like myself in their 20's. They are the ones with the lower hormone levels, the ones who arent trying to beat out someone, the ones whose wives can only remember the shape of they used to be in, and above all, the ones who've put in their years of training to deserve it. So to answer your retorical question, for themselves! Thats why you need to be big and strong at 40+, maybe to enjoy their sex life with the woman of their life. Just because sports are more competitive doesnt in any way give a green light for the use of aas. What ever happened to "May the best man win?"

[neverenuff21]

Sorry, one more thing. I partially blame us, the juicing community for them wanting to use. Its Older people and guys out there not being a good role model to them and obviously too concerned with their muscles to give them their respect as young adults. Its becoming more common everyday for older guys to date young girls. How could a 17 year old stick compete with a 25 year old beefcake flirting with his girl?

[MasterShake]

Hey neverenuff,

I would shake your hand right now if I could... well said.

[Hellmaskbanned]

Man, I just cant get over this, Hellmask. I agree with its wrong any way you look at it. but it stops there. some young users have more reason? Which ones? I love the juice as much as anyone on here, but lets be honest, when you put aas into sports, it becomes unfair. The origin of sports was probably not who could do more mg's. which is what it is becoming with people like bonds. just because someone's a little faster than you does not mean you take juice. You shake hands, leave the track, and train harder. Be a man, dont juice because the guy next to you is more dedicated to his sport. Its all vanity anyway, I dont care what anybody says. And I feel the 40+ guys have more right to juice than people like myself in their 20's. They are the ones with the lower hormone levels, the ones who arent trying to beat out someone, the ones whose wives can only remember the shape of they used to be in, and above all, the ones who've put in their years of training to deserve it. So to answer your retorical question, for themselves! Thats why you need to be big and strong at 40+, maybe to enjoy their sex life with the woman of their life. Just because sports are more competitive doesnt in any way give a green light for the use of aas. What ever happened to "May the best man win?"

Well , the best man juices.
I'm not talking about making the highschool football or baseball team.
I'm talking about D1 college sports+ nationaly ranked athletes , and don't tell me there all natural. The training is 100% with aas. Thats why athletes are producing such great numbers in their sport.

When you grow old your hormone levels drop. So it's unatural to put back the hormones, right? I don't care if you do or not, but whats the point of being strong when your old? "Thats why you need to be big and strong at 40+, maybe to enjoy their sex life with the woman of their life." BWAHAHHAHA! That was funny, I've got to admit. It vary's per individual. One's opinion is not always right, especially on a catagory of age to determine if one should use or not.

[neverenuff21]

Maybe thats what you need to compete at that level, but that doesnt justify their use. I agree, you probably wont make it in D1 without, and yes it would be unnatural to put them back. Again, im not condoning their use, just saying if anyone has "the right" to use, its the older gents. Its sad that sports have lost their luster cause one guys willing to shoot more than the other. And I myself will continue to support the "true talent" while i sit on my couch and take my shot. And as for the woman you love, you must be single.

[Hellmaskbanned]

Maybe thats what you need to compete at that level, but that doesnt justify their use. I agree, you probably wont make it in D1 without, and yes it would be unnatural to put them back. Again, im not condoning their use, just saying if anyone has "the right" to use, its the older gents. Its sad that sports have lost their luster cause one guys willing to shoot more than the other. And I myself will continue to support the "true talent" while i sit on my couch and take my shot. And as for the woman you love, you must be single.

If thats the reason you juice so be it, you most be a pathetic loser if you rely on juice to fvck a chick.

You must not be an athlete. You have no idea what it's like to be competitive at a high level. Yep all the athletes eat their spinach and flinstone vitamins to do the unbelievable feets they achieve each year after year.

How old are you? 24 , your young too, are you a Hypocrite?

"And I myself will continue to support the "true talent" while i sit on my couch and take my shot." Wow very talented.

[neverenuff21]

Not claiming to have talent, or the right to do steroids. So in that aspect, yes, guess i am a hypocrite. As for women, I think thats hardly the sole reason anybody turns to juice. No, I dont consider myself to be an athlete, everyday I wake up, I'm competeing against myself. I want to be stronger than yesterday. I want to know more than yesterday. I want to go further than yesterday. And at the end of my day, my woman and partner is who I have to give everything i've accomplished to. Its called character, and it is few and far between thesedays. I hope you one day can achieve it as I strive to, grasshopper.

[Hellmaskbanned]

Not claiming to have talent, or the right to do steroids. So in that aspect, yes, guess i am a hypocrite. As for women, I think thats hardly the sole reason anybody turns to juice. No, I dont consider myself to be an athlete, everyday I wake up, I'm competeing against myself. I want to be stronger than yesterday. I want to know more than yesterday. I want to go further than yesterday. And at the end of my day, my woman and partner is who I have to give everything i've accomplished to. Its called character, and it is few and far between thesedays. I hope you one day can achieve it as I strive to, grasshopper.

grasshopper hahaha, you sound like dr. phil or an emotional bitch. Are you on pct right now bwahahahahahhahahhahaha.

So I guess you agree with me on the point I've made in my posts. One group should not be frowned upon just cause of age, and that all are doing , so all are in the same boat? Of course if your 14yrs old thats way to young so nobody get confused.

[neverenuff21]

I do agree with some of your opinions, just not all of them. But they are opinions and everyones entitled to them. I've said my piece. I hope everyone at some point gets to enjoy the true meaning of "Quality of life."

[Hellmaskbanned]

I do agree with some of your opinions, just not all of them. But they are opinions and everyones entitled to them. I've said my piece. I hope everyone at some point gets to enjoy the true meaning of "Quality of life."

Dr. phil your right, people are entitled to express. As for the "Quality of life" WTF are you talking about? No don't answer that question, you will probly ramble on a entire page about love,peace, and happiness.

[neverenuff21]

Damn, your worse than I thought. I see why you sympathise with youngsters, you mentality never left the high school locker room.

[Anabolios]

anyone ever use the ab wheel to build a solid core?? :Lol:

[Hellmaskbanned]

anyone even use the ab wheel to build a solid core?? :Lol:

He probly uses the ab-wheel while reading Oprah's latest novel.

[neverenuff21]

corny one liners huh. thats original.

[Swifto]

Stop bickering you two!

Lets keep this constrctive/productive and a guide to the newbs.

[neverenuff21]

you got it swifto!
as for the rest of you,
Peace bitches, im out!

[Anabolios]

you got it swifto!
as for the rest of you,
Peace bitches, im out!

bitches? hmm seeing as how you do not know a single one of us i cant see where that is coming from and im sorry but i dont care who you are i just cant take you seriously with that avatar...and with the previous comment all i can picture you is watching oprah,using the ab wheel,and having a few grams of clomid for an emotional snack

[neverenuff21]

damn! I'm emotional? I dint even know you were here?

[Hellmaskbanned]

bitches? hmm seeing as how you do not know a single one of us i cant see where that is coming from and im sorry but i dont care who you are i just cant take you seriously with that avatar...and with the previous comment all i can picture you is watching oprah,using the ab wheel,and having a few grams of clomid for an emotional snack

HAHAHAHAHHAHHAHAH!!!!
Poor guys feelings must have gotten hurt....
I'm sure he's in the fridge right now gathering his ice cream and other comfort foods to snack on so he can watch oprah then use his ab-wheel, because he looks fat in his clothes.

"Clomid for and emotional stack" ahahhahahaha

[pelly789]

i completely disagree with this statement i believe its the people who get a hold of the dbol or whatever and give it to the young kids knowing or maybe not knowing what the effects can be, at 15-16 years old they cant order steriods online, unless there parents know, so who is ignorant in that case? the parents are not the kid, at 15 you cant expect kids to know what right and wrong is between steroids, to them steroids are like a holy grail thinking if they use aas they will be the biggest kid on the football team or whatever the case is. other kids get them at the gym from older guys who know there sh*t and are just trying to make a quick dollar off of selling just dbol to a young kid promising him the world with it. its not the kids fault, if you see a guy pushing 500lbs on the bench then you will more than likely take his advice if you dont know better right? jmo im not arguing with you but i dont believe its the kids fault directly

there ignorant.

[Anabolios]

yes im here...and you're not necessarily emotional i just had to respond to the "and to the rest of you peace bitches" anyways bump for little kids to see ya dig?!!?