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    Gear Testing Q & A

    Let's suppose that I have 3 Three 10ml vials of test-e suppossedly dosed at 250mg/ml. Now, I want to be a good boy and test my gear before cycle but as there are fake artists out there, who knows if one, two or all three vials are the real deal. So, do I send 1ml per vial to the lab for testing or can I somehow combine them all into a 30ml vial and then send the 1ml from the mix?

    If I have to test all three vials independently, I'll end up paying more for testing than I paid for the gear. Anyone?

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    Oops! AND

    This probably needs to be moved to the research and Homebrew forum.

    Also, How would one "mix" the three vials into one large one in a sanitary manner?

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    how long have u used this source?

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    If you suspect that one or two of the vials may be fake than the results you get back will be mixed. For example if you get back 80mg/ml how may of the vials are fake (prob 2) but you aint going to have a clue which two or it could be that all three are underdosed? If you want to save some cash try a pick out some differences in the fake forum and work from there. I still dont understand how these can be sent to a lab without giving the feds an invitation to search you crib???

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    Quote Originally Posted by sbeast007
    how long have u used this source?
    I have not tested the gear and am new to cycling but had good results with cycle 1. However, my gear passes all of the look and see tests when compared to the legit pictures here. No problems whatsoever. I've just heard so much about conterfeiting that I don't trust anyone completely yet and would not put it past a source to intermingle fakes and legit gear. That's why I was thinking about mixing them and if my results are 250mg/ml then great, but if one is just oil and it knocks down the potency I could adjust my dosage ........or forget the source and the whole cycle until I found another.

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    That's why I was going to mix them.

    Quote Originally Posted by Rookie1974
    If you suspect that one or two of the vials may be fake than the results you get back will be mixed. For example if you get back 80mg/ml how may of the vials are fake (prob 2) but you aint going to have a clue which two or it could be that all three are underdosed? If you want to save some cash try a pick out some differences in the fake forum and work from there. I still dont understand how these can be sent to a lab without giving the feds an invitation to search you crib???
    If I mix them and one is fake then instead of it being 250mg/ml, it would be 166.66mg/ml (assuming the original real ones were dosed correctly.

    Also, in order to avoid the feds, use 1) a secure email address and instead of your name, use a number. Besides, even if you send the lab your name, the Feds would 1) have to have an existing warrant to be monitoring the lab's receipts, 2) actually secure a warrant based upon what amounts to hearsay evidence (like your having sent the sample int he first place, and 3) even if the lab told the feds, they probably wouldn't care and even if they did, they would still have to get a warrant and just because the lab says you sent them a sample is probably not going to fly with the federal magistrate isssuing warrants. In order for a warant to be issued, the officer seekeing the warrant must show probable cause (see the 4th Amendment to the Constitution) and the warrant must be plead with particularity. For example, 1ml of test-e sent to a lab would probably not support a warrant in that the officer would not be able to plead particularity: He's got "some" test-e at his house is not even close to sufficient to support a warrant.

    Now, if you sent 200 samples of test-e.......that's a different story but the 4th A. only allows searches of persons homes with probable cause and that standard is pretty high.

    Now, I've hijacked my own damned thread so I'll continue lest fellow bros think they can get careless. 1) Police may search cars, motorcycles and YOU incident to lawful arrest so if you get a DUI, the cops can adn may search your car without a warrant. 2) Reasonable suspicion gives an officer the right to subject you to a "Terrry" frisk which will let him pat you down to check for weapons and if he feels a big fat vial of test then you're busted. Reasonable Suspicion is only present where an officer can articulate circumstances that lead him to reasonably believe that a crime is being committed or has just been committed....so keep your pins in your bag!

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    yes I agree. 166mg/ml would equil one fake assuming the other two are full dosed. Thankx for the info

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