winny/dbol only? just curious...

**gabriel595** · 03-23-2006, 03:06 PM

hi guys, well i have a couple of questions. i was thinking about them yesterday before going to bed and im sure there is people who have done this 2 things or thought about them.

1) can you do a winstrol only cycle for example at 50mg ED on workout days and 10mg on non-workout days along with some creatine and other supplements for 6 weeks just to gain some quality muscle weight, strenght, definition and to mantain your body in an anti-catabolic/anabolic state. the real question is would winstrol at those doses can shut you down? do you need some low dose clomid pct for this?

2) can you use dbol for example at a low dose of 10mg a day 5 before training and 5 after training or 5 in the morning and 5 in the afternoon only con workout days like 5 days on 2 days off something like that just to mantain your body in an anabolic state? i know dbol would shut you down but i don't know if it can at those small doses and leaving 2 days of rest.

well those are the two questions i had. i am really curious about this maybe someone here can be helpful.

thanks in advance,

gabriel

**GetinBig** · 03-23-2006, 03:24 PM

Man I have been gone for a while and I come back and People are still asking about Dbol only cycles..

NO NO NO NO NO NO..

READ UP!! RESEARCH!!!
Do a search on Dbol only cycles you should see a crap load of them.. All with the answer NO.

Do a Test only cycle if you want. If your not ready for the Needle your not ready for GEAR.

**gabriel595** · 03-23-2006, 03:31 PM

yes man i know this but i was curious if at those low doses you can be shut down by it. and about the winstrol cycle? the thing is i was thinking of simple cycles, taken orally no injections, with no complications and no harsh to your health maybe the winstrol wouldn't shut me down, i dont know.

**vitor** · 03-23-2006, 03:38 PM

Originally Posted by gabriel595

yes man i know this but i was curious if at those low doses you can be shut down by it. and about the winstrol cycle? the thing is i was thinking of simple cycles, taken orally no injections, with no complications and no harsh to your health maybe the winstrol wouldn't shut me down, i dont know.

Winstrol wont shut you down, yust supress you some.

What are your goals?

**gabriel595** · 03-23-2006, 04:00 PM

Winstrol wont shut you down, yust supress you some.

What are your goals?

you see i do wrestling but i love bodybuilidng. doing lots of intense cardio while wrestling doesn't allow me to gain nice amounts of muscle weight it burns fat, gives me definition and shape to my already built muscles but i can't gain more muscle, so if i do for example the winstrol cycle it would be to mantain myself in an anabolic state so that i use my protein and a postive caloric balance to gain muscle weight. i think it's possible along with the creatine and maybe some clen or efedrine thrown in there. i know that if do a "normal" cycle with test and an anabolic agent as EQ or deca i would really gain muscle and cut all catabolism in my body, but i want to stay away from androgenic compunds for some time. my goals would be just cutting catabolism gain some muscle, strentgh, all this of course with a good training and a high calorie diet, i want to help me gain weight with the winny and creatine combo nad building the muscle with good training and diet.

**Luvinit** · 03-23-2006, 06:12 PM

Damn gabriel don't you wish guys could at least be respectful to you on here?? I have the same problem, but to answer you I did a lot of research on this and I didn't find the it's all NO NO NO NO NO!! I found a lot of people who did from 2-8 tabs per day and some went up to 50mg per day and loved it but of course the after cycle weight and strenght drop even with pct is no fun at a high dose. A lot of users that used 2-4 a day for max 6 weeks with anti estrogen for water/gyno and PCT said it worked and some gains kept and for the low cost they seemed to like it. Of course everyone wants to be huge so if your not throwin in some Test-E or Cyp or whatever they are gonna tell you it's stupid. My advice is everything is an experiement and take the info you get from all sides objectively when you make your decision. Just don't do anything like stupid high doses with no anti-e or pct to follow.

**longhorn814** · 03-23-2006, 06:17 PM

if youre gonna do it, which isnt the best idea, run 50mg ed including non workout days..the half life is about 8-12 hours so you need to take it everyday. You will need some type of PCT afterwards too..all steroids shut down or supress to one degree or another..and if you think there are no sides from just taking winny orally..youre wrong!! Winny can dry out your joints and make you more injury prone..not good if youre wrestling!

**mkrulic** · 03-23-2006, 06:22 PM

Originally Posted by Luvinit

Damn gabriel don't you wish guys could at least be respectful to you on here?? I have the same problem, but to answer you I did a lot of research on this and I didn't find the it's all NO NO NO NO NO!! I found a lot of people who did from 2-8 tabs per day and some went up to 50mg per day and loved it but of course the after cycle weight and strenght drop even with pct is no fun at a high dose. A lot of users that used 2-4 a day for max 6 weeks with anti estrogen for water/gyno and PCT said it worked and some gains kept and for the low cost they seemed to like it. Of course everyone wants to be huge so if your not throwin in some Test-E or Cyp or whatever they are gonna tell you it's stupid. My advice is everything is an experiement and take the info you get from all sides objectively when you make your decision. Just don't do anything like stupid high doses with no anti-e or pct to follow.

Everyday there is someone who asks about a this only cycle. there is at least one on this page. it's a deca only cycle and everyone will tell him what they are going to tell this guy. don't do it. and the reason is not becuase, "you won't get huge." it's because test is necessary to help keep everything right.
experiment and learn from your mistakes? what horrible advice. here is better advice, use the freakin search button and LEARN FROM OTHER PEOPLES MISTAKES.

**Luvinit** · 03-23-2006, 06:46 PM

no comment

**HORSE~** · 03-23-2006, 06:46 PM

I dont no how it will work for you but I ran a cycle of oral dbal 40mg a day for 6 weeks and win 75mg injectable every other day for 8 weeks. I personaly had low sides some acne was about it sex drive stayed strong thru out.I got alot of definition and gained about 12 solid pounds.I am not recomending this just sharing.This was before I found this site.

**GetinBig** · 03-23-2006, 06:52 PM

Originally Posted by mkrulic

Everyday there is someone who asks about a this only cycle. there is at least one on this page. it's a deca only cycle and everyone will tell him what they are going to tell this guy. don't do it. and the reason is not becuase, "you won't get huge." it's because test is necessary to help keep everything right.
experiment and learn from your mistakes? what horrible advice. here is better advice, use the freakin search button and LEARN FROM OTHER PEOPLES MISTAKES.

**Luvinit** · 03-23-2006, 06:57 PM

By the way mkrulic where did you get the "Deca only cycle from"??? We are talking about d-bol. Maybe you should read the thread before you get an attitude with me.

**GetinBig** · 03-23-2006, 07:02 PM

Chill out bro. He was just making a point. There are tons of threads that ask: "check out my cycle it is _____ only cycle" (like Dbol, winny, deca, ect.

That is what he was talking about..

Do some research. You will see alot of threads on this very subject.

**mkrulic** · 03-23-2006, 07:04 PM

Originally Posted by Luvinit

By the way mkrulic where did you get the "Deca only cycle from"??? We are talking about d-bol. Maybe you should read the thread before you get an attitude with me.

it's a thread w/ blank only cycle. fill in the blank w/ anything other than test and you have a really bad idea. every day someone asks this question, "how bout a blank only cycle." and everyday at least 10 to 15 different members on the board will say the same thing, bad idea. the reasons are the same, shut you down, etc, etc. your advice sucked. someone had to point that out

**Luvinit** · 03-23-2006, 07:17 PM

SUCKED?? The only thing on here that sucks it your attitude. Maybe you should cut down on your test usage

**gabriel595** · 03-24-2006, 11:58 AM

chill chill chill guys, lets help each other just that. well i've been thinking about it and the winny would be a better option. and for the dry joints maybe the creatine can be helpful since it makes you retain water so it should flush the joints, right?

**Booz** · 03-24-2006, 12:01 PM

Originally Posted by Luvinit

SUCKED?? The only thing on here that sucks it your attitude. Maybe you should cut down on your test usage

calm yourself down bro............................................... .i saw no-one being dissrespectfull watsoever.......................

**Hellmaskbanned** · 03-24-2006, 12:26 PM

Originally Posted by gabriel595

chill chill chill guys, lets help each other just that. well i've been thinking about it and the winny would be a better option. and for the dry joints maybe the creatine can be helpful since it makes you retain water so it should flush the joints, right?

Creatine is worthless. Winstrol or dbol alone isn't a very good choice.
Are you afraid of needles?
If you are NOT do a test cycle.
If you are afraid do a anavar or tbol cycle. OR both together

Anavar winstrol cycle....hmmmmmm really makes you wonder?

**gabriel595** · 03-24-2006, 12:34 PM

Are you afraid of needles?

no, im not afraid of needles but as i posted before in this thread i want to stay away from androgenic compounds.

**Hellmaskbanned** · 03-24-2006, 12:46 PM

Originally Posted by gabriel595

no, im not afraid of needles but as i posted before in this thread i want to stay away from androgenic compounds.

Then why did you mention dbol?
What sides are you trying to stay away from?

**drew24** · 03-24-2006, 01:11 PM

too pack sucks

**gabriel595** · 03-24-2006, 01:24 PM

too pack sucks

wrong website, wrong forum, wrong thread.

**gabriel595** · 03-24-2006, 01:32 PM

Then why did you mention dbol?
What sides are you trying to stay away from?

i know you were wondering this, i mentioned the dbol just to learn a little, just curious. i want to stay away from HPTA shut down in the main place, then from the other androgenic side effects like acne, irritability, etc. when you do a "normal" cycle you have to fight against bloat, frog face that is part of the bloating, acne, HPTA shutdown and all the other common side effects and you need a compund to fight them beside the AAS like nolva, clomid, HCG, acne aid, liver protection and more... so i want to stay away from all this for some time, i will do more "normal" cycles in the future but for now i only want to fight against liver protection and joint pain and help me gain some muscule, thats it.

**Booz** · 03-24-2006, 01:37 PM

Originally Posted by drew24

too pack sucks

pointless post.........................

**gabriel595** · 03-24-2006, 01:53 PM

pointless post.........................

exactly

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