Suspension, to walk or not to walk.

[IBdmfkr]

Wed I'll report back. Oil-based suspension in my quad, supposed to be painless. We will see.

[Smak]

ouch, two or three times a day?

[velvetlion]

A real man would test it out in his calf. Suck it up IBDmfkr!!!!!

[IBdmfkr]

No way, lol haven't ever touched my calves before, deff. not gonna start with suspension! I'll do delt in morning on Tues, and quad before lifting Tues afternoon. If I like it I'll drop the prop and finish out with suspension for 2wks.

[velvetlion]

No way, lol haven't ever touched my calves before, deff. not gonna start with suspension! I'll do delt in morning on Tues, and quad before lifting Tues afternoon. If I like it I'll drop the prop and finish out with suspension for 2wks.

Sounds like a good plan.

[goalseeker]

keep us posted bro.. I been meaning to try it out as well....

["England"]

Susp in a oil base is painless! Love the shit!

[IBdmfkr]

We will see I've heard mixed reviews, so I figured I'd see for myself.

Wondering if 1/2inch will be deep enough in my delt/quad? Opinions?

["England"]

We will see I've heard mixed reviews, so I figured I'd see for myself.

Wondering if 1/2inch will be deep enough in my delt/quad? Opinions?

1/2 or a touch more is prefect... Warming the oil up will help as well!

How much you injecting!

[IBdmfkr]

75mg/mL, was going for 3/4cc morning and 3/4cc mid afternoon. Around 100mg/day.

Only doing it for fun during the last two weeks of cycle instead of Prop. Enanthate ended about a week ago, so I'll run the suspension for a couple weeks and start PCT. Not expecting much results, just wanna see how it goes as I plan on running it next cycle with possibly Tren+Eq/orPrimo again.

[speedtraining]

A real man would test it out in his calf. Suck it up IBDmfkr!!!!!

lol.

[IBdmfkr]

Not funny, I can fake a hurt knee for a few days if the quad inject goes bad but not sure I can pull off the calf injury. lol

[speedtraining]

Not funny, I can fake a hurt knee for a few days if the quad inject goes bad but not sure I can pull off the calf injury. lol

hahah...i'm curious bro what was your cycle lay out that you are currently on.

[IBdmfkr]

It changed 6-8wks in. Shortened it up quite a bit.

Cut to 13wks.

1-5 DROL 75mg/day
1-8 TestE 750mg/wk
1-10 Deca 600mg/wk
5-11 Primo 1000mg/wk
8-13 Winny 75mg/day
8-13 Prop 100mg/day
8-13 Masteron 400mg/wk (Cut short, BF wasn't low enough to notice benefits)
10-13 HCG 500iu twice wkly.
13-18 Nolva20mg/day + aromasin25mgEOD
wk 13 - GH dropped to 5IU's 5on2off

Up to 203, very happy with cycle just don't feel as if 20wks is totally necessary and gains have already slowed. Don't really want to draw it out just to be disappointed and have a difficult time with recovery.

Back to the suspense... Two days until suspension torture!

[speedtraining]

how was the cutting with the primo and winny together? I'm currently running

1-14 100mg prop ed
1-6 dbol 45 mg ed
8-14 Var at 80 mg ed

I'm very pumped about using var as I never have before i'm trying to get to 270 and stay at 11% bf before week 8, i'm currently at 265...I hope var is all its cracked up to be, sure does cost a pretty penny but i'm sure you know that with primo haha.

[IBdmfkr]

When I run Primo again I'll run it from the start minus Deca. I feel I didn't run it for long enough but liked the results from the cycle, just hard to narrow down which compound did what. Also left out Tren which is supprising, because it's one of my favorite compounds.
Too many sweet compound to put them all in one cycle, it's saddening really.

[IBdmfkr]

Tomorrow we will see how it goes. Keep you posted.

n/m shot delt tonight, went in smooth and no pain as of yet. Hopefully I can lift my arm in the morning. I'll shoot other delt in morning and then quad in afternoon.

[IBdmfkr]

Pain isn't nearly as bad as expected, I've come to the conclusion my friend is a little fag. I called him and let him know that as well.
Delts feel like I shot Prop in them and quad shot yesterday before legs while in parking lot of gym is feeling very little pain as well.

Keep in mind I shot with 25ga. about 3/4inch in and my buddy shot with 31ga about 1/2 or Possibly less. Not sure if this makes a difference. Other quad today and calf tonight.

Anyone have any Insight?
Was thinking about the half-life of suspension and the fact that it would possibly spike test levels quite a bit during the day.

If running a 8wk cycle of suspension would it be beneficial to run a HRT dosage of TestE lets say to keep bloodlevels from totally hitting bottom? Just something I was pondering. Debate away.

[Myka]

quad shot yesterday before legs while in parking lot of gym

Seriously? So you make no effort to hide it?

[IBdmfkr]

I was in my car, but I had to pull my pants up when I got out. Usually try to do it 1hr before lift but I was with friends so it would've been difficult. Suspension is like slin/GH, have to make time for it in your schedule(pain in the ass)

[speedtraining]

I was in my car, but I had to pull my pants up when I got out. Usually try to do it 1hr before lift but I was with friends so it would've been difficult. Suspension is like slin/GH, have to make time for it in your schedule(pain in the ass)

i just wouldn't want to get caaught with that shit, its nice as safe it my hiding spot that i visit in the morning

[IBdmfkr]

It's in a syringe in my bag. I'm at work 90% of the time and the gym is 5mins away, no worries. Need my suspension!

[goalseeker]

and thats the batch you brewed yourself?

[IBdmfkr]

Yes, everything going well... Two delt shots not much pain at all, two quad shots feels like QV prop.. (a little soreness and stiffness but nothing serious)... I'll go with CALVES tonights lol and in the morning... Never shot them before so I'll see how it goes. Gonna split it into 3shots/day 1/2cc per shot every 8hrs.

[goalseeker]

calves.........uuuhhhh...... lol

[littlemantc]

Wed I'll report back. Oil-based suspension in my quad, supposed to be painless. We will see.

hey i heard something about a few products out there that is totaly painless...hmmm

[IBdmfkr]

12:30am and now that I've been sitting for a while and resting my quads seem to be getting tight. Hard for me to squat down without taking like 10-20secs to get all the way down. Not too much pain, just tightness/soreness in muscle. Reconsidering Calves, may go with Glutes instead

[Booz]

how are the quads today IBD..........................

[IBdmfkr]

Stiff, feels as if they were worked pretty hard. Nothing intolerable. Glute lastnight before bed and I'll do other in a few minutes. Small bruising-feeling on glute, again nothing unbearable, all part of the game.

Keep u posted.

Btw, I worked legs 2days after suspension shot, not sure if it was the suspension but ALL my lifts were up. 5plates on hacksquat is the heaviest I've gone and I did 5 + 25 for 8reps no spot. I'll try 6plates on my next leg routine including hacks in a couple weeks. Chest today, so we'll see how it goes.

[goose]

What`s your cycle? Sounds like great strength gains already....nice work...That`s the one thing with suspension you got to be able to rotate shots well.


goose...

[IBdmfkr]

My cycle is coming to an end, 1 1/2 wks left. Here's a quick rundown, only trying suspension until everything clears my system to start PCT.

1-5 DROL 75mg/day
1-10 TestE 750mg/wk
1-10 Deca 600mg/wk
5-11 Primo 1000mg/wk (planned on running for 15wks but stopped cycle at wk 13).
10-13 Prop 100mg/day (sub-ed suspension last week.)
10-13 HCG 500iu twice wkly.
13-18 Nolva20mg/day + aromasin25mgED + proviron 100mg/day
wk 13 - GH dropped to 5IU's 5on2off throughout PCT

[BG]

My cycle is coming to an end, 1 1/2 wks left. Here's a quick rundown, only trying suspension until everything clears my system to start PCT.

1-5 DROL 75mg/day
1-10 TestE 750mg/wk
1-10 Deca 600mg/wk
5-11 Primo 1000mg/wk (planned on running for 15wks but stopped cycle at wk 13).
10-13 Prop 100mg/day (sub-ed suspension last week.)
10-13 HCG 500iu twice wkly.
13-18 Nolva20mg/day + aromasin25mgED + proviron 100mg/day
wk 13 - GH dropped to 5IU's 5on2off throughout PCT

Not sure if I missed it but how much GH during??

[goose]

Must say the Primo part looks to short....primo needs 12 weeks in my experience.GH not doing EOD ??
I have never used aromasin will be in my PCT soon,how has it been for you? Rate it?

goose...

[IBdmfkr]

Not sure if I missed it but how much GH during??

Opps, 10IU EOD. Worked great IMO, Next time around I will try 4on4off to compare ED/EOD/4on4off. So far I prefer EOD over ED by far.

Must say the Primo part looks to short....primo needs 12 weeks in my experience.GH not doing EOD ??
I have never used aromasin will be in my PCT soon,how has it been for you? Rate it?

goose...

Yes I deff would've run the Primo for a longer period of time, I Just started seeing its effects when I had to stop it. Oh well, I have plenty left that will be run for 8-10wks next cycle. Probably something like this. (rough draft)
1-4 *Possible oral*
1-12 T susp 100mg/day
1-10 Tren 100mg/day
1-10 Primo 1-1.5G/wk

Aromasin worked well IMO. Kept me very -dry- looking and had little to no bloat. At first I thought it was hindering gains a bit so I dropped it back to 25mgEOD. Deff a mistake as a couple weeks later I had signs of gyno and had to jump back to ED and took nolva for a week or so to decrease sides. Everything went away and I returned to normal.

I'll deff take it again, but am considering arimidex next time around so I can have a good comparison.
So far only tried Nolva + aromasin during cycle and I deff prefer aromasin, seemed like it didn't halt my gains like nolva but worked very effectively, impressed.

[marcus300]

[QUOTE=IBdmfkr]Opps, 10IU EOD. Worked great IMO, Next time around I will try 4on4off to compare ED/EOD/4on4off. So far I prefer EOD over ED by far.


I liked the 4on 4 off really well, but will be trying EOD with a short heavy cycle when ive finished priming.

10ius like this alot

[IBdmfkr]

ouch, shot both calves yesterday, not feeling too good. Not unbearable but deff not comfortable when walking or flexed.

Update on susp. This stuff is great, instant strength/weight increase/energy. All lifts went up within the week. Ex. Bench went from 315 8x's to 12x's.

Good stuff!

[Booz]

ahhhh calf shots rather you than me..................

[stocky121]

ahhhh calf shots rather you than me..................

agreed only spot i aint done and i dont think i will either

[G-1000]

Oil suspension is painless. was shooting water 2 times a day with prop injections. znow that sucked.

Never shoot a trap and go to bed. you will not move your neck for weeks.

[IBdmfkr]

Oil suspension is painless. BULLSHIT
Never shoot a trap and go to bed. you will not move your neck for weeks. HAHAHA I feel your pain, I can't hardly walk!

The rest of you can go to hell, I feel like a gimp here. lol Kinda hobbling around the house today, fridge to cpu and back. Gonna shoot Bi's next, almost seems sick but I like the way it makes my calves feel.