The Prop Only Cycle -Opinions Please

[jerryjuice84]

Hey Guys,
The idea of a Prop Only cycle is rarely mentioned if not ever. one reason may be due to the frequent daily injections that are required with Prop seeing as it has such a short ester period. Other reasons may be because it is so unique in that it can be stacked effectively wtih almost anything for bulking/cutting cycles (Eq, Deca,Eth,Winny,Tren). Final reason may be because it is one of the most costly test's out there.

My question for you guys though is...
1. If a newbie is looking for a Test compound that doesn't produce much bloating
2. Is willing to endure daily injections.
..is there anything wrong with a Prop only cycle of 100mg/ed for 10weeks/Nolva 10-20mg/ed? I know that most will suggest a basic Test Eth or Cyp cycle.. however,
Nothing that i have read would say that this (prop) cycle is inaffective or harmful. Please guys id love to hear your comments on this and what kind of predicted results one could see from it.. thx bros

[1buffsob]

Prop only is fine IMHO for a beginner, provided he can endure ed injections.

[Mighty Joe]

Jerry,
Maybe post your stats and age. That way some of the vets in here will know how best to help guide you. BTW, I've done a Prop only cycle and did fine, its a simple basic cycle.

MJ

[znak]

My question for you guys though is...
1. If a newbie is looking for a Test compound that doesn't produce much bloating
2. Is willing to endure daily injections.
..is there anything wrong with a Prop only cycle of 100mg/ed for 10weeks/Nolva 10-20mg/ed?

Good cycle. Rotate you injection sites. So you will have to cover a lot of terrritory-- delts, glutes and quads (I would recommend).

I don't know how close to your natty potential you are, but this cycle should add about 5-8 pounds of lean, sustainable, muscle mass on a trained athlete.

[Joeblo21]

I think that a prop only cycle is good for a beginner if he can handle the pins, just because if he reacts badly to the compund he can quit and the sides will clear up quick with a short ester, unlike long estered test e or c which would take a while to get out of the system. Test is test.
Cheers,
Joe

[jerryjuice84]

thanks for the replies guys. Now for PCT it would begin 3 days after the last prop shot and would Nolva 20mg/4weeks be affective enough for a straight prop cycle pct?

[znak]

thanks for the replies guys. Now for PCT it would begin 3 days after the last prop shot and would Nolva 20mg/4weeks be affective enough for a straight prop cycle pct?

Somebody has been doing their homework.

[jerryjuice84]

stats:
22 yold (i know too young)
6' 215 12% bf (been cutting down this fall/winter from my summer 230frame)
Univ. Student
Arms 18.5 inches cold (only measurement ive ever taken)
Training hard/smart for 4-5 years.
Bpress: 315x4, Deadlift 535x1, Squat 405x3.
Diet: 200-280 protein /day , never drink, dont smoke. Have tried various diets and methods of eating.. learned to manipulate my body through nutrition.

cycle experience 1: Cyp 500mg/w 10 weeks w/ proper pct, blew up from 210 to 230 kept relatively low bf.

Reason for wanting to do a smaller prop cycle: i feel it would be an affective summer cycle while i maintain a very clean diet. Not too interested in intense bloating and packing on a large amount of mass at this point in my life. Maybe plan a bigger cycle down the road couple years. Also money issues b/c if i were to do a big cycle id want to invest properly in it.

[taiboxa]

stats:
22 yold (i know too young)
6' 215 12% bf (been cutting down this fall/winter from my summer 230frame)
Univ. Student
Arms 18.5 inches cold (only measurement ive ever taken)
Training hard/smart for 4-5 years.
Bpress: 315x4, Deadlift 535x1, Squat 405x3.
Diet: 200-280 protein /day , never drink, dont smoke. Have tried various diets and methods of eating.. learned to manipulate my body through nutrition.

cycle experience 1: Cyp 500mg/w 10 weeks w/ proper pct, blew up from 210 to 230 kept relatively low bf.

Reason for wanting to do a smaller prop cycle: i feel it would be an affective summer cycle while i maintain a very clean diet. Not too interested in intense bloating and packing on a large amount of mass at this point in my life. Maybe plan a bigger cycle down the road couple years. Also money issues b/c if i were to do a big cycle id want to invest properly in it.

i would up the protein to about 400 on cycle for sure.. 2.2grams per lb of lbm imo is best. i wouldnt run nolva during cycle unless your gyno prone.

I LOVE PROP really the only test i ever run... 10 weeks on prop is ideal and you will love it, for it kicks in WAY faster than cyp/en.

[longhorn814]

thanks for the replies guys. Now for PCT it would begin 3 days after the last prop shot and would Nolva 20mg/4weeks be affective enough for a straight prop cycle pct?

i would think that PCT is a little weak..i prefer nolva and clomid, but if you want to run nolva only do 40mg/day for two weeks and then 20mg until you feel recovered

[charlie20]

bro, this is exactly what i'm thinking of doing, i'm also a newbie going to start my first cycle, i will keep an eye on this thread, update me if you can on your cycle when you got it figured out, also what are your stats?

[Joeblo21]

I think you have great stats to start a cycle, and not too young IMO.
Good luck with your cycle and keep everyone posted.
Cheers,
Joe

[charlie20]

sounds like we are doing a prop cycle for the same reasons, you are a bit bigger than I i'm 25yrs, if possible keep me posted on how it is going, I got no one with the same goals to share results with and good luck bro

[beavertrap]

I love prop! I ran a prop and npp cycle last summer. Nandrolone has a tendency of fuccing with my head so I discontinued the npp after six weeks and ran prop only for the next six. I ran it with arimidex (which I don't even think I needed) and looked ripped. Kept the majority of gains and all the strength. Since I tried prop, I will never use another test again. I am starting prop/tren cutter on May first!!!

[k bizzle]

prop only is what i'm startin april 1

[GetBiggg]

add some tren

[1buffsob]

add some tren

On his second cycle? I'd hold off until you get some 'lighter' compounds under your belt. But Tren and Prop is one great cycle.

[HUNTER1]

i agree. try something lighter- perhaps some nandrophen, boldenone, etc?

[D7M]

I've ran prop only cycle. I personally love prop. If you're looking for lean gains, you could always stack it with var (if you have the cash)

[GetBiggg]

sorry... couldn't resist.. but I put the evil devil in fire face to show that it might not be the best of ideas....

although i did tren at 50mg ED my second cycle.... no problems at all.. great stuff.. nectar of the gods.

[1buffsob]

sorry... couldn't resist.. but I put the evil devil in fire face to show that it might not be the best of ideas....

although i did tren at 50mg ED my second cycle.... no problems at all.. great stuff.. nectar of the gods.

I hear you.
It would be irresponsible of us to suggest such things to beginners. But that's not to say I wouldn't do it. Do as I say, not as I do.

[GetBiggg]

Do as I say, not as I do.

haha exactly...

regardless good luck with the prop man you'll love it, i'll never run any other test again.

[taiboxa]

p.s. if u feel froggy go w/ win or var for last portion of cycle

[pmorris]

man if you dont want bloat which isnt necessary a bad then. use adex or letro ..

[Doc.Sust]

i have a question say you are only running prop at 240mg per wk, would you lower the dose or time of a clomid pct??suggestions?

[Mighty Joe]

i have a question say you are only running prop at 240mg per wk, would you lower the dose or time of a clomid pct??suggestions?

240mg/wk of Prop sounds much like TRT. But to answer your question the new rule of thumb these days is: Stay with your PCT until you feel your sex drive/libido is back online. May take less time could take more, we are all different.

Stay Safe, MJ

[znak]

240mg/wk of Prop sounds much like TRT. But to answer your question the new rule of thumb these days is: Stay with your PCT until you feel your sex drive/libido is back online. May take less time could take more, we are all different.

Stay Safe, MJ

Rock solid advice.