Old Guy(46) needs advice

[2bshredded]

Hey Bro's,
Been reading a shtld of posts here, but mine situtaion is somewhat different.

History: Was a FF, started late in life 35....tested for a different Dept when I was 42....made it, problems started out of the Academy...I was #2 physically in the class of 24....age average was 27.

OK, long story short....for Political reasons I was ousted out of the Dept., shortly after I quit working out so much, quit running, etc. 1st problem was bulging discs in my back then herniate discs in my neck...I'm dealing with that now, have not been able to work out.

I'm 6'3", 210LBS and am carrying a shameless ~24-26% body fat, at my prime(35) I was 225 and 11%.
I've never juiced.............NOW is the time, at least I think it is. My neck is progressing, the nerve is no longer pinched....that was f'ing painful.

So, I found you guys after the fact. I want to get rid of my body fat #1, the muscle and strength will follow. I've purchased and hpefully I will receive it soon: 30 amps winny, 2600 mg Deca., Clenbut., Proviron, and Clomid. Roughly a 7-8 week tour. Assuming I don't get fckn ripped!

The above is my first cycle and with a diet of chicken, vegs, eggs, protien mix and some occasional carbs I'd like to get to 220 and hopefully 14-16% BF, my work ethic is A-1.
Am I on the right track here and what about cardio, can I run...say 3-4 miles a day 7-8 minute miles...I imagine my heart rate would be in the 160-170 range....do the roids help in this range, will I be burning muscle.

I will also run stairs and make the legs burn, also parachute running.
Is my thinking all fck'd up here?

My second cycle was going to be Sustaton, but the more I read the more I think I'll go with Test. Enth. and Eq., maybe jumping the gun here butI want to get back to where I was before.....A big MAN!!!!

Any, any input would be highly apprecaited, give the old dude some help.


PS---Sorry I just noticed this is in the wrong place, 1ST post, can a mod move this to the right thread? I can't seem to gain access to email anybody. HELP!!!!

Marty

[Natty99]

welcome and good luck!

[*Narkissos*]

moving this to the steroid forum for you...

[craneboy]

this being your first cycle you should do 500mg test a week, broken down twice a week (like 250mg tues nite and 250mg sat morn) for at least 10 weeks. you also need nolvadex (tamoxifen) for anti-E at 10 mg a day. you dont want to stack aas for your first, you need to see how your body is going to react to the test alone first, that way if there is a problem you will know what caused it. and if gyno symptoms appear you can up the nolva dosage to combat them

[righton]

Being your first cycle a low dose cycle(250 test/deca/wk) would give you great results. No need to do any more than that especially at your age when your test levels are naturally declining. However trim the B/F first that way you'll see results instead of the muscle being hidden under smooth B/F!

[ivrig]

it`s written alot around here.. but the best and easiest beginner cycle:

500mg test E e/w. Shoot every monday and thursday (the first shoot should be 750 mg (frontloading, for more stabile blood-levels), then 250 every pop.).

0,5 mg arimidex every day, and maybe some nolva in case of gyno. usually you should just up the ari dose, but some people don`t react on ari. and nolva makes ari less effective.

there you have it

[2bshredded]

Thanks Guys for the responses, with my body fat so high I opted with a cutting cycle....should have come here first...I ordered 2 weeks ago.

30 AMPS Winny, 10 vials DecaD, Proviron, Clomid and Clenbut. I'd hate to buy a complete new cycle, do you think this will do me justice/ should I get some Test. as well.

Sorry, pain in the ass newbie here....be as blunt as you would like. Marty

[ivrig]

yes, i would definetly buy some test. winny and deca can make it hard to get an erection. since your a newbie, i guess you don`t want to use a needle all the time, so buy testo e, and run something like the program i put further up. you need more test than anything else, so at least 300mg a week.
if you have high body fat, maybe winny isn`t you cup of tea yet, because it KILLS your colesterol values! if I were you I`d just run test.
Can you switch gear back or sell it? that would be best..

[craneboy]

test only your first cycle, save the other stuff for later

[2bshredded]

Hey ivrig,
thanks for the quick reply, no i cannot send it back, tell you the truth i don't even know if I'll get it....first time off the net.
alright, i'm going to assume in will be in my mailbox soon.....can i start the deca and winny until i can get some test., should be a couple of weeks before i can get the goods.

see i was thinking with all my bf that i needed to cut.....anyways, i don't mind poking myself 3-4 times a week....will this cycle do me any good or am i wasting the deca and winny. Marty

[ivrig]

no problem, here to help
no you`re not wasting it, but as a nwebie you always wanna do it the safest way, and avoid sides, because you don`t know if you are very prone to it.

of course you can start, but i strongly advise your first cycle should be test only, at LEAST have test in it!

winny seriously fvcks up your blood-fat, (and that`s underrated how dangerous that can be. i never run it more than 3 weeks), and it can (gives many) pain in your joints because it removes water.winny might also give you a hard time getting a hard-on

Deca can easily give you deca-dick (don`t work at all), and that`s why you wanna play it safe and take test with deca. (at least not winny and deca together without any test).

i would wait, but of course you can start. but save the winny to later, it really cuts you up , so it`s better to take it in the end,cause that`s when you wanna show off a little =)

anyway, use policosanol and glucosamin on winny! poli is for your blood-fat, and gluco is for helping the joints! (deca only helps the syndomes, it doesn`t cure the problem with joints)

[2bshredded]

Cool.... can't have a win or deca dick, that just won't cut it.
Can I do just the Deca till I get the Test. in and save the winny, my jointa are hurting already so I gotta watch out.

Wish I found this web site a few weeks back, oh well better lat than never.
Thanks for your help. Marty

[ivrig]

yeah you can do the deca, but i know people who got problems with their dick after just days of injection.. so i would wait till you can take it with test e at 500. and start on glucosamin right away then! i also get easily joint-pains, and that`s worth avoiding.and use anti-estrogen og blockers, don`t wanna have tits..

just PM me if anything, but i think you need to post something like 30 posts before you can PM people.

be safe!

[2bshredded]

Thank you, I'd like to avoid the tits unless of course there on someone else.hahahaha
I'm just anxious as hell to get this program going, I can't get any bigger doing what I'm doing.

[ivrig]

when you get all your gear, then put up a list of what you want to do, and have been doing. you`ll get alot of help here.

i know what you mean, get all worked up myself when the time closes in, but it`s smarter to wait. and the deca won`t kick until you get the test anyway, so i would wait for it..

but understand your problem, we have all been there =)

[2bshredded]

Done deal, arrrgggg....I'll wait. Marty

[ivrig]

atta boy

let us know when the time comes!

[2bshredded]

I will and thanks again for your help! Marty

[2bshredded]

I will and thanks again for your help! Marty

****Actually one more question, do I want Test. Enth, or Cyp.?

[righton]

I will and thanks again for your help! Marty

****Actually one more question, do I want Test. Enth, or Cyp.?

Either one, not both.

[ivrig]

test E!

[2bshredded]

Gotcha, it's on order!