cycle is 500 test 1-13
400 deca 1-12
want to add 5-15 winny
cycle is 500 test 1-13
400 deca 1-12
want to add 5-15 winny
Why deca and winny together?
If you're trying to get big lean gains, there are better compounds than Winny.
And if you're trying to get ripped with less bloat, there are better compounds than deca.
What are your goals?
Last edited by MAXIMA5; 04-05-2006 at 10:20 AM.
Basic Winny use GENERALLY is between 6 to 10wks; and 50 to 100mgs.
Many exceed both categories, though not typically together. For example an experienced short/heavy cycler might run it at 150 – 200mgs for 4 to 6wks. A long cycler might do so at 25 – 50mgs for in excess of 12wks.
So to specifically answer your question...No, that's not considered too much. The people cited above often monitor their liver values, and you should also.
M.
Last edited by magic32; 04-05-2006 at 10:26 AM.
I answered this in your duplicate thread about the same thing.Originally Posted by russia dog
~Pinnacle~
Originally Posted by MAXIMA5
FINE!! ill be doing eq then GOSH!
sorry for the repetition of the thread, u see im a trhoubled child and needs attentionsOriginally Posted by Pinnacle
I'm sorry bro...a truly feel for you..........lol...Originally Posted by russia dog
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thanks forall the understanding, i am touchedOriginally Posted by Pinnacle
i would definetly not run winny at that amount over that time, check the thread winstrol (only spelled wrong..)
Originally Posted by ivrig
It's fine... you're values might be slightly elevated but who cares...
The key here is bloodwork.
slightly??? haha you have NO idea pal!!!!!!!!!!!!!
haha?
yeah, i had to laugh at that..Originally Posted by 100%NATURAL-theGH
check the what i posted about what winny does to your cholesterol in the post winistirol!!!!
This is not to be taken lightly
But hey, your choice
hmmmm i ask for knowledge
what?
you seriously need to make up your mind and stop asking stupid fvcking questions! I gave you research on what winny does to you, there you have it, now make your choice!! it`s as simple as that!
Oh, thanks for the words of wisdom…duh.Originally Posted by ivrig
All 17aa’s elevate cholesterol levels with even the safest use and precautions. What do you think out of range liver values are?
M.
u said check the thread winstrol
why u pissoff likel little baby,it's educational here
no want help and u go ok you you (i did the asian accent on purpose)
haha you must be very clever =)Originally Posted by magic32
if you have run winny over that time,and went to a doc, he would be much worried over you blood-fat values! As he was with me, and everyone else i`ve heard of. the liver can really take a beat, and it is easier to protect it than the cholesterol, pluss it takes MUCH longer time for the blood-fats to get back to normal!!
Thank you very very much =)
ok sorry, on a diet..Originally Posted by russia dog
but all i`m saying is that my own experience, and after what i`ve read and heard, i would never do that. alot of other stuff you can take, and rather end the cycle with winny..it`s a shame really, i love winny
just put the milk thistle in the mix and run the damn thing, but like maxima5 said only after you know your goal so you'll know what to run it with
Last edited by NEW_MASS; 04-05-2006 at 11:19 AM.
lol.Originally Posted by russia dog
don't get defensive. I'm just trying to figure out what you're trying to accomplish.
Don't do EQ just because I suggested it.
Are you looking to bulk or cut?
what's your bodyfat%, height, and weight?
Originally Posted by MAXIMA5
SON, im using doing napoleon's dynatyme's "gosh" and "fine"
my stats are similar to hisso i need a cycle to fight the wolverines cuz they were attacking my cousin GOSH
eating a lot of efa's on winny will help protect the blood lipid values.
HAHAHAHHA. I thought you were doing Napoleon.Originally Posted by russia dog
Can you do any sweet jumps?
Originally Posted by ivrig
Yes I am rather.
But seriously, if 70mgs of Winny is too much for you then either your starting point (origin levels) weren't good to begin with, or you’re especially sensitive. No offense but from what I've read thus far, I'm leaning towards the latter.
Many…many people use far more than 70mgs of even more toxic compounds at that duration, with routinely positive check ups and "NO" problems. Here's a very recent testimonial from a nearly identical current thread:
M.I've ran anadrol at 200 mgs ED for 10 weeks several times.Never an issue with my liver.If you believe all the shit on these boards and listen to the thread parrots you'll never get big bro.So with that said..70 mgs ED of winny will be fine.As long as you have a healthy liver to start with
Good luck with the cycle
~Pinnacle~
that`s true, but i`m more concerned about the bi`s over time. read an article about blood-fat, and this is something you don`t wanna supress very much every year, but of course, people have take insanenly mych more and lived to smile about it. but as i said, better safe than sorry, it`s not worth it, i`d rather cycle a little different
Originally Posted by MAXIMA5
it's a sledgehammer alright
pedro
I certainly appreciate your reverence for safety, and personally subscribe to it. I’m also very familiar with cholesterol and its related literature. But your argument lacks foundation. If one’s values are not altered as described in the recent example (Pinnacle), then fatty deposits are not accumulating on the arterial walls nor is there a compromising of their dexterity, hence the potential long-term damage you refer to is simply not occurring. The values themselves are indicative (early warnings) of such excess, which is the very purpose for testing. The within range measurements refute your premise.Originally Posted by ivrig
Of course your earlier allusion remains without rebuttal. To paraphrase you, “the less you use any potentially detrimental compound the safer you are.”.............Obviously!
M.
Originally Posted by magic32
righteous
yeah, i might be to careful, but after reading what winny can to to you with only 6 mgs for two weeks....scared me..Originally Posted by magic32
It's ok to be scared, this is a dangerous game we play lol
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I just ran winny at 200mgs ED for 6 weeks.Guess what pal?I had BW done one week after discontinuing and everything came back in normal range.Originally Posted by ivrig
Cry me a river somewhere else.The sounds of it you should be taking anything stronger than asprin!
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Nasty stuff asprin.......Originally Posted by Pinnacle
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oh yeah right, i forgot smart asses who tink that "hey since it happened to me it has got to be the same with everybody else!"
well a friend of mine had to jump of cycle cause the doc said this just wasn`t safe! (but he had some poor blood-fat results before, that`s true), my point is just that it shouldn`t be taken lightly.
Everybodys different, and someone else might not be so lucky, so i wouldn`t recommend it to everybody.
But that`s just my 2 cents..
and pinnacle, if one of us is gonna cry about something one day, it`s not gonna be me..
better safe than sorry
No..I have a cock beteen my legs,not a pussy.That's the difference between you and I.I see my sports doc every 3 weeks,Endo on a monthly basis,and get BW done every 2 weeks by my reg doc.Think I just throw caution in the wind?Not a chance ....I'm extremely safe.Thing is,I don't listen to bullshit from the likes of ppl like you.Hence the reason I'm where I'm at (physique -wise) and a decent threat on stage.Originally Posted by ivrig
Here's a tissue.Wipe your tears kiddo
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ooooo im waiting........................................... ....
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fvck tooo late your too quick for me bro.....................Originally Posted by Pinnacle
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Haha..what's up booz?Figured I'd stop by the board for a few and tell these kids like it isOriginally Posted by booz
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haha kind of funny that your actually making fun of me for being TOO safe =)
This is too silly to continue, i guess you just want people here with the same opinion..
and wich direction are you pulling me here? i`m on winny right now, just saying be careful. but you don`t need that of course, you got your cojones..
hehe
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