ok heres my situation

[jonnyb1935]

I have two bottles of tren, of which I will take 50 mg eod. 8 weeks
Next I will start 50mg of winny eod in week three. I have read from many people that I need to add some kind of test. I don't think that I want to add test, I don't need to blow up. I am 215 pds 5'9". I would like to drop 20 pounds, and harden up. I have cleaned my diet up greatly. I have taken just straight winsrol in the past a couple of times. I loved it. I don't need huge size gains, just something to get into shape for the summer. after reading a lot of the posts, I am worried about decreased libido. Without adding any test, how can I avoid this problem. and also, what type of pct would be good. thanks

[jonnyb1935]

hihi

[hosam4ever]

winny will not cut fat down its better 2 do a good diet 2 drop some bf then think of doing aas

[D7M]

best to add test, bro. i'd suggest prop if you want lean mass. that should be the general consensus around here

[MAXIMA5]

I am worried about decreased libido. Without adding any test, how can I avoid this problem. and also, what type of pct would be good. thanks

You can't avoid this without test.
Proviron might help a little.

Also, can i ask why you will be running Winny EOD instead of ED?

AAS are not meant for weight loss. Like Hosam said, get to the base weight you want naturally, then carefully plan a correct cycle.

I think you'll be very dissapointed with the "cycle" you outlined in your first post.

[jonnyb1935]

How long should I take provirion, the whole time or last few weeks, and how much per day???

[DIESELPWR]

-im pretty sure that the winny wont make u lose weight it just makes the muscles appear harder and the only way to actuallly lose fat is cardio and diet

[MAXIMA5]

How long should I take provirion, the whole time or last few weeks, and how much per day???

DO A SEARCH!
You really need to rethink the core of your cycle before you worry about adding auxillary compounds.

[45acp]

Tren eod sucks and 50mg eod would really suck. By the second day its just about gone so you have one day jacked up, one day not all the way through your cycle. 50mg ed is considered a nice low dosage that works... 50mg eod isnt going to be enough to do anything other than give you side effects.

[longhorn814]

why does everybody think they will blow up if they use test? So not the case...its all dependant on diet. The great thing about test is that you can use it to cut or bulk!! Get some prop and run it with tren and winny, but you really should be shooting ed and 50mg of tren eod is pretty much pointless IMO

[D7M]

I know longhorn, someone said to me the other day, i want to run a cycle, but don't want to get too huge. like you're gonna be ruhl after one cycle!

[MAXIMA5]

I know longhorn, someone said to me the other day, i want to run a cycle, but don't want to get too huge. like you're gonna be ruhl after one cycle!

What do you mean? You mean a light 6-weeker won't put 3 inches on my arms? Dammit!

[brutesinme]

i dunno, i'm on week 4 of a 10 week 500mg/cyp and i've jumped from 240-265, i know a lots gotta be bloat, i thought the a-dex would take care of that but it hasn't. People are already mentioning things, and according to the bro's on this site, the cyp hasn't even kicked in yet! I'm going to be HUGE!