what to expect from this cycle

[randy6969]

i want to do a tbol and Tren cycle. tren 50 Mg ED, and tbol 40 MG Ed. tbol for first 4 weeks, and tren for 8 weeks if i last that long with the sides. can i gain 20 lean lbs from this cycle or is test needed? this will be my first serious cycle ive done tbol twice before and had good results with it. is tren ace, and ent. 2 different products? becasue on the BD tren bottle it says tren acetate, and it also says enthate.. sorry about the spelling...

thank you for ur replys

[guest589745]

You need to research more if you want to gain th emost from your future cycles and this board as a whole.

Test is needed in virtually, if not all, cycles.Especially an oral only such as the one you described, which is by the way, a pretty crappy sounding cycle.

What is your history with aas, age, lifting routine, diet etc?? Those play a key role in the succesfulness of all cycles.

[longhorn814]

it is not recommended to run tren without test!! Since youve never run test or tren before, just run a test e cycle for 10-12 weeks and use the tbol for the first 4 weeks. You need to see how you react to test first before incorporating tren