1st Cycle ever....feel free to tear me apart...lol

[nygsxr1000]

I am 26 yr. old 5' 9-10" about 190....i have a pretty good diet(lots of protein,low carbs and only good fat) i have been working out for about a year now....i have somewhat of a belly(not too bad),cant seem to get rid of...i do lifting 5 days a week and try to do cardio 3 or 4 times at least(time doesnt always permit me too)....i want to stay at around 190-200 but lose fat and increase lean muscle...i am somewhat susceptible to baldness(not yet though)and i work out hard and i am dedicated,but i am not getting the results i am looking for.....not to mention i am a wuss about side effects!!!!
So here goes...
20mg a day for 1 wk of nov(for gyno...i have some messed up looking nipples)
1st week 250 sus(see how body reacts to it)
2-10 500 sus(10 total weeks of sus)
8-12 400 primo(200 twice a week)
1-15 20mg of nov
and i would like an opinion on dosage of clomid for pct
i think my body fat is somewhere around 20%(but i really dont know,and i know that is high)

dont really want to use more than one thing for first cycle except primo(for lean muscle).....not really trying to turn into a monster yet i want to take things one step at a time

[peump]

500mg week test e only (nolva on hand)

pheedno's pct


try it

[taiboxa]

I am 26 yr. old 5' 9-10" about 190....i have a pretty good diet(lots of protein,low carbs and only good fat) i have been working out for about a year now....i have somewhat of a belly(not too bad),cant seem to get rid of...i do lifting 5 days a week and try to do cardio 3 or 4 times at least(time doesnt always permit me too)....i want to stay at around 190-200 but lose fat and increase lean muscle...i am somewhat susceptible to baldness(not yet though)and i work out hard and i am dedicated,but i am not getting the results i am looking for.....not to mention i am a wuss about side effects!!!!
So here goes...
20mg a day for 1 wk of nov(for gyno...i have some messed up looking nipples)
1st week 250 sus(see how body reacts to it)
2-10 500 sus(10 total weeks of sus)
8-12 400 primo(200 twice a week)
1-15 20mg of nov
and i would like an opinion on dosage of clomid for pct
i think my body fat is somewhere around 20%(but i really dont know,and i know that is high)

dont really want to use more than one thing for first cycle except primo(for lean muscle).....not really trying to turn into a monster yet i want to take things one step at a time

thanks for giving the info.. first of all too much for a first time... and personally i hate to say this but a var only cycle would be more beneficial if ur scared of being a chrome dome.. since ur not trying to bulk. in all honesty though.. you could do that w/o AAS by getting ur diet down pat.. go check out the diet forum here and u will be amazed at all the things ur doing wrong.
research research research before u waste money and screw stuff up

[novicenovicen]

eat more carbs!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! LGI 45% of your diet! 45 35 20 macrobolic.

[nygsxr1000]

i like what i hear about test e,except the fact that it is so hard to keep gains...i am contemplating taking 250mg of sus for first 2 weeks and completely cutting out the primo.........i am def going to run nolvadex throughout and possibly after 2 weeks when cycle is done doing a week of 100mg of clomid and another week of 50mg of clomid

[Seattle Junk]

thanks for giving the info.. first of all too much for a first time... and personally i hate to say this but a var only cycle would be more beneficial if ur scared of being a chrome dome.. since ur not trying to bulk. in all honesty though.. you could do that w/o AAS by getting ur diet down pat.. go check out the diet forum here and u will be amazed at all the things ur doing wrong.
research research research before u waste money and screw stuff up

I prefer tbol over var for many reasons. But test is fine if he has a baldness problem as long as he takes finastride.

Yeah, 500mgs is probably too much the first time, don't need it. I would go 375mgs (1.50cc) for 12 weeks. Run your test all the way to the end with your primo if you're going to stack it in the last third of your cycle.

[c8rsa]

One compound would be enough,, ie:Test E

[shadyadam]

i like what i hear about test e,except the fact that it is so hard to keep gains...

With proper PCT you bet your ass you could keep those gains!

i am contemplating taking 250mg of sus for first 2 weeks and completely cutting out the primo.........

Although i wouldnet recommend Sust for a first cycle but if you gonna run it at least run it at 500mg/week Every Other Day shots.

i am def going to run nolvadex throughout and possibly after 2 weeks when cycle is done doing a week of 100mg of clomid and another week of 50mg of clomid

I like your PCT but the clomid is not correct. It should be run this way.
18 days after last injection (this is common for Sust use) start the clomid this way...

Basic Clomid PCT:
Day 1: 300mg
Day 2 to 10: 100mg ED
Day 11 to 21: 50mg ED

Good Luck!!

[novicenovicen]

clomid gets run alot of different ways. everyone says something diff. I say 200 first day, then 100 for a week then 50 for 2 more weeks, or until you are a horny man.

[shadyadam]

clomid gets run alot of different ways. everyone says something diff. I say 200 first day, then 100 for a week then 50 for 2 more weeks, or until you are a horny man.

You said horny.

[Booz]

imo...you should run one compound only for your 1st cycle and again imo it should be a form of testosterone...pref test e 500mg weekly 12 weeks..................make sure to have ancillerays that you may need as well as pct before you commence the cycle.........................

[novicenovicen]

Boooz

[Booz]

Boooz

[novicenovicen]

good to see yah around mate! This board has me hooked on the word mate. I'm a damn yank who wants to use it!

[Pumpin-Fe]

Hello everyone I just wanted to say whats up I'm a new member here and I wanted just to Introduce myself, I am completly natural but with the help of some of you pro's I'm hoping to change all that.

[taiboxa]

Hello everyone I just wanted to say whats up I'm a new member here and I wanted just to Introduce myself, I am completly natural but with the help of some of you pro's I'm hoping to change all that.

please dont hijack someones thread just to introduce your self bro.. thats bad manners

[Booz]

Hello everyone I just wanted to say whats up I'm a new member here and I wanted just to Introduce myself, I am completly natural but with the help of some of you pro's I'm hoping to change all that.

not gonna jump on you coz you are a newb but there is a forum for new male members where you should have introduced yourself...too late now
make sure to read the rules of the forums before posting anythin..

[novicenovicen]

wait till he asks for a source hahahahhahahah

[MFT81]

I am 26 yr. old 5' 9-10" about 190....i have a pretty good diet(lots of protein,low carbs and only good fat) i have been working out for about a year now....i have somewhat of a belly(not too bad),cant seem to get rid of...i do lifting 5 days a week and try to do cardio 3 or 4 times at least(time doesnt always permit me too)....i want to stay at around 190-200 but lose fat and increase lean muscle...i am somewhat susceptible to baldness(not yet though)and i work out hard and i am dedicated,but i am not getting the results i am looking for.....not to mention i am a wuss about side effects!!!!
So here goes...
20mg a day for 1 wk of nov(for gyno...i have some messed up looking nipples)
1st week 250 sus(see how body reacts to it)
2-10 500 sus(10 total weeks of sus)
8-12 400 primo(200 twice a week)
1-15 20mg of nov
and i would like an opinion on dosage of clomid for pct
i think my body fat is somewhere around 20%(but i really dont know,and i know that is high)

dont really want to use more than one thing for first cycle except primo(for lean muscle).....not really trying to turn into a monster yet i want to take things one step at a time

YOU CAN'T PAINT A HOUSE TILL THE FOUNDATION IS BUILT.

[nygsxr1000]

dont hijack anymore.......lol........j/k and more opinions are certainly welcome...as i said b/f i am going to improve clomid use as pct and i am going to do the sus 250 for 2 weeks then do 375 or 500 for the rest of my cycle depending on how my body reacts to it