What do you believe is the 3 best cutting agents when used together?
Stats: male, 12 to 14% bf 4 years of experience weight lifting ( non on cutting)
2 cycles of test alone
OTHER THEN CARDIO , & DIET... those are essential i know
What do you believe is the 3 best cutting agents when used together?
Stats: male, 12 to 14% bf 4 years of experience weight lifting ( non on cutting)
2 cycles of test alone
OTHER THEN CARDIO , & DIET... those are essential i know
Last edited by STEROIDZZ; 05-03-2006 at 08:10 AM.
Cardio, Diet, Time.Originally Posted by STEROIDZZ
~Old
Couldn't have said it better myself.
1buffsob
I know cardio and diet those are essential to me and ill do that.. but i would like to know gear wise.. in your opinions?
IMO "Gear" does not cut you. Gear helps your body recover fast and grow stronger from proper Diet & Exercise.
Now the only thing I can say is Clen and T3 and/or ECA/Y will not hurt if done correctly but not really "gear".
What are your stats? what do you have in mind in wanting to accomplish?
~Old
gear prevent catabolism shit i love testdbol for cutting as well as tren or an ything tha tmakes me STRONG i love gaining str whiledropping bf%
Excellent answer!!!Gear does not get you cut.It's a very small equation in a larger picture.I've recently went from 9% BF to slightly under 4 % Bf whilke using 2 iu's HGH ED along with 200 mgs Test weekly.I did this in 8 weeks with a picture perfect diet,and cardio twice daily.Originally Posted by oldman
I'm sure ppl will come along and say Tren.I'll run my 200 mgs test wkly and that person can run all the tren he wants.After 8 weeks I'll look better and feel better than that person.And most likely be lower in BF as well.Sleep helps with the reduction of BF>Something you don't get alot of while running Tren(Fina)
~Pinnacle~
Ditto. Not much more than a bit of test is needed to stave off catabolism. I'll add in a dht-derivitive though, such as winstrol or my favorite;MasteronOriginally Posted by Pinnacle
. Tren is better saved for a lean bulk IMO.
1buffsob
I like winny and love masteron as well.Just it really isn't needed unless you are running a prep cycle for a contest.Something I'll be doing in a few months from now and will have winny/masteron in there to harden me up.But like I said above..those drugs aren't needed for a normal cut..cardio,diet and maybe a little test.Originally Posted by 1buffsob
~Pinnacle~
I agree, it's not needed. But it's definately wantedMasteron has really helped my increase of strength durring cutting, and is hardening me up like nothing before.
I think, far too often, people waste too much gear on cutting cycles. There's no point IMO to run so many compounds.
Pinn, when does your contest prep begin?
1buffsob
Could agree more in regards to your statementabout too many compounds.Ppl on this board think more is better,and they also think drugs get you ripped too.Someday they'll wise up...hopefully..Originally Posted by 1buffsob
I start in contet mode July 15th.I'm actually in contest mode now,but the first leg is to thicken up slightly before going into a full blown assualt to et down to 3% (which I'm close to right now)..
Contest is in late Sept....
~Pinnacle~
Good luck bro..Shoot me a PM when ya get a minuteOriginally Posted by Pinnacle
Sounds good Pinn. Keep me updatedOriginally Posted by Pinnacle
1buffsob
1buffsob so you think a 2 compounds such as test eth, and tren along with cardio and diet ill be good to go for cutting?
I'd stick with just test bro.
1buffsob
Nevermind Lol Edited
just go with test but we all know that diet is the key
thanks you all....
I have to stir the pot a little here: assuming that the difference in my thinking is getting cut vs. burning fat, if steroids don't help you cut; then why is their a cutting cycle, bulking cycle, lean bulk cycle etc?
I find it hard to believe that the addition of gear with a fantastic diet, perfect cardio, sleep etc wouldn't aid in getting shredded.
Hey Pinn. Do you have an example of your eating log that you could upload or email?Originally Posted by Pinnacle
Is the difference with including gear then to: keep and build your muscle while proper diet, cardio etc burns the fat? Because I ran body for life 3 straight session in a row before trying gear and I lost a huge amount of fat but the bulk and muscular definition wasn't what it could be...
one word gear wise it should be diet and cardio but honestly you asked for gear than tren hands down masteron only works if you already have low body fat tren is the king.
The main function of aas in a cutting cycle is to minimize muscle loss. But it helps you recover quicker on a calorie restricted diet. If you get strength/muscle gains durring cutting, then that's just icing on the cake.
Tren, despite what many believe, is usually overkill on the average cutting cycle. Test is truly all that is needed. Other compounds may be needed for competing athletes and veterans, but what applies to the pros, does not apply to the weekend warrior.
1buffsob
WHoa Whoa.
You're 20 and have 4 years of experience? 4 years of experience with what?
Thanks 1BUFFSOB i apreecaited the advice... you look like you got a swole arm on hahah...
And the experince was 4 years of serious weight lifting with 2 differnet test cycles ( alone)
No..I pay alot of money for my nutritionist.Why would I want to share my personal info on the 'net?Originally Posted by jef
Also,you think anabolics are needed in cutting cycles.So go for it then.
They are used in comp cycles for getting that hard look ect,not for cutting.But wtf do I know,I'm just a dumb BBer.......
~Pinnacle~
You ok Pinn? That's the 2nd time you've said something like that in the last 30 minutes.Originally Posted by Pinnacle
And yeah jef, you're gonna have to come up with your own approach. Just keep researching.
1buffsob
Just kinda joking I guess?I don't post much these days anymore so ppl really(the new members) don't know me or the experience I have,so I'm just making light of a situation.Originally Posted by 1buffsob
~Pinnacle~
I hear you budOriginally Posted by Pinnacle
Figured some smart ass member pissed you off this morning.
1buffsob
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