how on earth do you work legs out with quad injections

[JCFobsession]

Just started quad shot's....

Test cyp

Example did it Friday night. It was sore Saturday... Sunday and Monday hurt like crap now today, Tuesday still sore..

I did Monday shot and work legs out on Wednesday! What can I do??

Want do you do?

Does it hurt so much because I'm shaking to much while in?

To much ba in gear?

Thanks broskis

[Black]

What are you injecting? Cyp/Enan or Prop?


This one lab I used several years ago gave me PIP with Cyp and Deca. It only lasted a couple days though. I just made sure to inject quads after legs that week.

You could also try heating it.

[Iron-56]

Warming up the oil helps greatly. PIP will subside over time. Happens with virgin muscle.

[slfmade]

I just injected quads last night (first time in left leg) and did legs today. It wasn't too bad. It was a little sore at first but I think the squats did something to make it better. Who knows. I do know that if doing Heavy Incline DB Press, don't, repeat DO NOT drop DB on quads after you finish the set. At least not the day after injecting quads

[JCFobsession]

What are you injecting? Cyp/Enan or Prop?

This one lab I used several years ago gave me PIP with Cyp and Deca. It only lasted a couple days though. I just made sure to inject quads after legs that week.

You could also try heating it.

Using cyp. . . Even in glute it was sore for days!! I always heat it before I use it too.

Yeah might have switch routine up some

[tigerspawn]

I do know that if doing Heavy Incline DB Press, don't, repeat DO NOT drop DB on quads after you finish the set. At least not the day after injecting quads

Shouldn't dropping weight on yourself always be avoided?

[slfmade]

Shouldn't dropping weight on yourself always be avoided?

Sure if you're a pansy, but not if you're hangin tough. LMFAO!!!!

[Dougiefresh7707]

Heating only makes the liquid a little more viscous, once it's in ur body it doesn't hold and temperature difference also do not ice or rub heat only. After you do quad apply gentle smooth pressure and circlular movments and put hearing pad on for 5 minutes should help. Also the muscle will get used to it just think your body doesn't like pockets of liquid in your muscles lol.

[fit2bOld]

Oh a little pip got ya whining
Lol.
Tough it out.

[Granovich]

heating or no heating it barely help
it will hurt alot... it gets better with time thou. i like to inject it higher in the quad, i found that it cause less PIP
but Yes its very hard to workout legs after quad shot. last time i did it i was hitting legs hard and after each site i almost cried of pain but just went with it.... it really hurts man...today i did quad shot and Lovbyts advised me to do it slow ( 60 second per ml ) so i did that and i will see if that makes a difference

[vladan]

It's easy. Love is the pain and the pain is the love.

[chi]

chances are it isnt filtered enough and the ba content is high. If this keeps on persisting even after a few injections then dilute the oil with some injectable b12 or take one iburprofen post injection. Gear with his ba levels gives me the flu and terrible pip so I am not stranger.

[Dougiefresh7707]

Also it is outer high quad your not going in the middle are you?

[vladan]

Come on guys, what kind of training for the legs is if it does not hurt, or if you are not dizzy, or if you are not confusing or if you do not throw up

[panntastic]

Also it is outer high quad your not going in the middle are you?

You can pin quads anywhere not just one spot

[panntastic]

chances are it isnt filtered enough and the ba content is high. If this keeps on persisting even after a few injections then dilute the oil with some injectable b12 or take one iburprofen post injection. Gear with his ba levels gives me the flu and terrible pip so I am not stranger.

Pip has nothing to do with filtering at all
Yes ba is a cause of pip but he said in the original post
He was moving around whist pinning
That's his problem
He was cutting all his muscle fibres with a razor sharp needle
Its poor technique that's all

[vladan]

Always make sure you dispose of your needles carefully!

[Granovich]

Always make sure you dispose of your needles carefully!

how is that related to PIP ?

[panntastic]

http://forums.steroid.com/anabolic-s...-into-pip.html

[chi]

Pip has nothing to do with filtering at all
Yes ba is a cause of pip but he said in the original post
He was moving around whist pinning
That's his problem
He was cutting all his muscle fibres with a razor sharp needle
Its poor technique that's all

very true if you are not steady during injecting you can cause a lot of damage to the site and increased pain. Though I disagree about filtering techniques not leading to pip, as poorly filtered recipes can cause pain and swelling.

[panntastic]

very true if you are not steady during injecting you can cause a lot of damage to the site and increased pain. Though I disagree about filtering techniques not leading to pip, as poorly filtered recipes can cause pain and swelling.

I could easily brew you something filtered and unfiltered and I guarantee you wouldn't tell the difference
Its all in the final autoclaving in my experience you can take gear that causes pip, refilter and would still cause pip
Take something that hurts and autoclave it and 9/10 times pips gone

[chi]

I could easily brew you something filtered and unfiltered and I guarantee you wouldn't tell the difference
Its all in the final autoclaving in my experience you can take gear that causes pip, refilter and would still cause pip
Take something that hurts and autoclave it and 9/10 times pips gone

I am going to stop here because I don't know much about home brewing so I will just take your word for it. I do know my gear is filtered and is filtered carefully which gives me a nice thin solution that I almost have never had a problem with pinning with though I have ****ed up and shaken during injecting which damaged surrounding tissue and given me pain.

[Live for the PUMP]

Just started quad shot's....

Test cyp

Example did it Friday night. It was sore Saturday... Sunday and Monday hurt like crap now today, Tuesday still sore..

I did Monday shot and work legs out on Wednesday! What can I do??

Want do you do?

Does it hurt so much because I'm shaking to much while in?

To much ba in gear?

Thanks broskis

Don't pin quads.. Lots of other muscles to choose from. Glutes are the best if your gear causes PIP. They can hold the most oil therefore PIP will be much milder.

[panntastic]

I am going to stop here because I don't know much about home brewing so I will just take your word for it. I do know my gear is filtered and is filtered carefully which gives me a nice thin solution that I almost have never had a problem with pinning with though I have ****ed up and shaken during injecting which damaged surrounding tissue and given me pain.

You got access to a pressure cooker?

[panntastic]

Don't pin quads.. Lots of other muscles to choose from. Glutes are the best if your gear causes PIP. They can hold the most oil therefore PIP will be much milder.

What has muscle size and how much it could hold got to do with pip?
If it hurts it hurts

The OP said he moved the needle when jabbing end of story

[Live for the PUMP]

What has muscle size and how much it could hold got to do with pip?
If it hurts it hurts

The OP said he moved the needle when jabbing end of story

Has a lot to do with PIP! A lab that has PIP will be less noticeable in a larger muscle. I know from experience. The operator plays big role in PIP too, no doubt.

[chi]

You got access to a pressure cooker?

sure

What has muscle size and how much it could hold got to do with pip?
If it hurts it hurts

The OP said he moved the needle when jabbing end of story

pinning in the glute by far is the most comfortable place for me. The quad is the worse and I would never inject 3 ccs into my delt and and do any type of pressing. Im speaking from experience here

Has a lot to do with PIP! A lab that has PIP will be less noticeable in a larger muscle. I know from experience. The operator plays big role in PIP too, no doubt.

I agree the pain would be a lot worse

[panntastic]

sure

pinning in the glute by far is the most comfortable place for me. The quad is the worse and I would never inject 3 ccs into my delt and and do any type of pressing. Im speaking from experience here

I agree the pain would be a lot worse

If you get a vial that causes pip ever
Suspend it above the water in a pressure cooker and let it sit @ 15psi for 45 minutes
You will notice a massive difference as there will be no pip

If your going to get pip in a muscle its going to happen its still the same gear your sticking in your body
If you use glutes exclusively then I can understand your going to be more comfortable pinning there than say tricep with gear that causes pip
But I use quads delts pecs biceps triceps and never get pip

[chi]

If you get a vial that causes pip ever
Suspend it above the water in a pressure cooker and let it sit @ 15psi for 45 minutes
You will notice a massive difference as there will be no pip

If your going to get pip in a muscle its going to happen its still the same gear your sticking in your body
If you use glutes exclusively then I can understand your going to be more comfortable pinning there than say tricep with gear that causes pip
But I use quads delts pecs biceps triceps and never get pip

wow really? even with high ba content?

[panntastic]

wow really? even with high ba content?

Its not going to completely eliminate pip from high ba content but will certainly take a huge bite from it
Have a nose around the lab section there's loads to learn

[TFf]

If you get a vial that causes pip ever
Suspend it above the water in a pressure cooker and let it sit @ 15psi for 45 minutes
You will notice a massive difference as there will be no pip

If your going to get pip in a muscle its going to happen its still the same gear your sticking in your body
If you use glutes exclusively then I can understand your going to be more comfortable pinning there than say tricep with gear that causes pip
But I use quads delts pecs biceps triceps and never get pip

What do you mean suspend it over the water?

[chi]

Its not going to completely eliminate pip from high ba content but will certainly take a huge bite from it
Have a nose around the lab section there's loads to learn

thanks for the tip will do

[panntastic]

What do you mean suspend it over the water?

Just make sure its not in the water you want the steam and pressure to do the work not the water at the bottom
Some people tie strong around the neck of the vial to suspend it
Some make a rack to fit inside the pressure cooker
I personally bought a autoclave of a out of business tattoo artist on eBay

[panntastic]

thanks for the tip will do

No problem

[JCFobsession]

Thanks for the responses... the inject itself. Is ok it's only like 6-7 hours later it's sore. I'll try maybe warming u area with pad hours after. Just about to start fresh bottle so I'll see if same thing happens.

This cyp was crashed when i got it so prolly not proper mix.

New bottle is fully liquid no Crystal hoping for better response with it.

[panntastic]

Thanks for the responses... the inject itself. Is ok it's only like 6-7 hours later it's sore. I'll try maybe warming u area with pad hours after. Just about to start fresh bottle so I'll see if same thing happens.

This cyp was crashed when i got it so prolly not proper mix.

New bottle is fully liquid no Crystal hoping for better response with it.

Aghhhhh now this is a different kettle of fish the solution probably crashed in the site
This leaves crystals in the muscle like shards of glass they irritate the site

[JCFobsession]

Aghhhhh now this is a different kettle of fish the solution probably crashed in the site
This leaves crystals in the muscle like shards of glass they irritate the site

Well I don't believe that the case here... I heated it up once to get it fully liquid and having apartment at like 62-64 degrees I have had to warm it up a few times. I also heat it up prior to each use.. the warmer climate its al was liquid now.

Your body temp is sitting at 98-99 even up to 100 degrees depending on what supplements you are taking and evolution of your body adapting to supplement /climate/ medicine. Constant eating of high cal,carb,pro will even raise your body's normal running temperature.

So I don't think it's crashing in muscle although I honestly do not know. No one would know with out testing. Or problematic issues with injection site, which yes could be being sore for days.

[Dougiefresh7707]

You can pin quads anywhere not just one spot

Yea but middle sucks and inner too.

[Dougiefresh7707]

Well I don't believe that the case here... I heated it up once to get it fully liquid and having apartment at like 62-64 degrees I have had to warm it up a few times. I also heat it up prior to each use.. the warmer climate its al was liquid now.

Your body temp is sitting at 98-99 even up to 100 degrees depending on what supplements you are taking and evolution of your body adapting to supplement /climate/ medicine. Constant eating of high cal,carb,pro will even raise your body's normal running temperature.

So I don't think it's crashing in muscle although I honestly do not know. No one would know with out testing. Or problematic issues with injection site, which yes could be being sore for days.

I have heard once it is crashed that's it unless you do the pressure cooker and get it suspended right in the oil. I do not brew so I'm also not sure if that is 100% idk if I would even buy it like that. Hope next bottle feels better.

[austinite]

I make it a point to pin quads on Leg days.