Zero Sperm Count

[Homer 8]

Whats happening fellas its been a long while since ive been on this just need a little help..
Have been off juice for bout a good 10 months now after getting my sperm count done and it came back at zero... it wasnt even low it was just zero..
Docs dont know wether its from juice or from a trauma injusry to the testicles..

So heres what i need from u. Im looking to go back on but with a course designed that it wont effect anything down below and doing worse damage...
i need to gain lean muscle and strip some fat.
any ideas at all would be great thanks guys

Homer

[TheDfromGC]

id be trying to figure out why its so low and exactly whats going on before planning out ur next cycle....thats assuming u want kids

[Homer 8]

id be trying to figure out why its so low and exactly whats going on before planning out ur next cycle....thats assuming u want kids

Yeah defo want kids... i doubt its from juice as i have only done a couple of courses and the most i ran testo at id say was bout 750mg for 6 weeks but im sure its contributing to it in someway. im currently undergoing tests and i will talk to my doc befor i go back on. i have kept alot of size from training hard and eating but im know where near as big as i was or would like to be

[Joey2ness]

Have been off juice for bout a good 10 months now after getting my sperm count done and it came back at zero.

any ideas at all would be great thanks guys

Homer

http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/entrez/q...&dopt=Abstract
Results suggest that even after prolonged use of extremely high doses of anabolic steroids, sperm production may return to normal.

I think Clomid is your best option to increase sperm count

bulk..nutrition website gets censored.(lowest price i could find for horny goat weed and arginine)

Bulk..nutrition (search) horny goat weed
Horny Goat Weed(epimedium) (5 grams/day) = Shoot Bigger Loads
Research has shown that male sperm count and semen density increase substantially with horny goat weed

bulk..nutrition (search) arginine
Arginine - Most research shows that several months of arginine supplementation increases sperm count and quality

5grams of horny goat weed with 5 grams of arginine /day = major wood + bigger loads +higher sperm count

P.S Any one know if Horny Goat Weed(epimedium) increases epitestosterone levels?

[magic32]

Engraved on the cover of the Hitchhiker’s Guide to the Galaxy in bold letters are the words, “Don’t Panic”.

Well Homer take heart. Firstly gear users often erroneously attribute burgeoning medical problems to usage. It is highly unlikely this was caused by gear.

And secondly, apparently you were dealing with rookie, because a veteran would have known to test you twice.

You're describing Azoospermia, is duct blockage like any other (home air, bodily blood, etc.) yours is just seminal. However, this is often the result of a venereal disease. Again “Don’t Panic”.

Go back, or to another doc, and have them do a "Detailed Semen Analysis Test", volume, fructose and PH. But make sure he does two (2) samples, an hour apart, and ask them to centrifuge the sample and check the pellet for sperm precursors.

If it's still zero, then the next step is to find out what the reason for your Azoospermia is. There are 2 possibilities - Obstructive Azoospermia; or Non-obstructive Azoospermia. You will need a testis biopsy to determine if sperm are being produced within the testes at all.

A good urologist will do this for you. Ask him to do multiple "microbiopsies" and send them to the path lab in Bouin's fluid. The results will identify which of the two you have and the next step to take.
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Now if your number is not "ZERO", in either trial then there are multiple possibilities. One of the common reasons for a low sperm count is a varicocele. A varicocele is a swollen varicose vein in the scrotum - usually on the left side. The condition occurs because blood pools in the varicose testicular veins since the valves in the veins are leaky and do not close properly. The reason for infertility associated with a varicocele are unclear. Perhaps the accumulation of blood causes the testes to be hotter and so damage sperm production; or the pooled blood brims over with abnormal hormones which may change the way the testes make sperm. The effect of the varicocele on an individual's sperm count is variable, and this may range from no effect whatsoever, to a severely depressed sperm count. This explains the importance I attached earlier to the “zero” count. However, varicoceles may also have a progressively damaging effect on sperm production, so that the sperm count may decline with time and obviously it’s not known when yours was caught. Whether such a depression could result in absolute zero is beyond my knowledge.

You can check for this at your earliest convenience, by doing what the doc will do. Stand straight up and feel the spermatic cord, the cord like structure from which the testical hangs (not as complicated as it sounds). Then cough. Patients and physicians describe a varicocele as feeling like a "bunch of worms" and upon coughing becomes engorged.

He’ll use a Dopler to confirm this, but the physical exam is fairly conclusive. Conventional open surgery is typically used for repair though there are others like mico and laparoscopic surgeries. And don’t worry they are all effective with low recidivism rates.

Here's a good read, and this guy felt the worms:
http://forums.steroid.com/showthread...ighlight=worms

Best wishes,

M.

[test=magic]

damn man dont mess with the jewels get that spem count corrected before anything......ive heard of people jackin out nothing but liquid no whitness no texture after heavy cycles...def not good....get all the plubming fixed first man for ur own good....heres a thought try and give ur self blue balls by watching tons of pron or hooking up wit bitches and no relase let it build up...j/k that would prob hurt

[Johnny Gotti]

I would definetly not give your self blue balls. enough said

[l2elapse]

damn man, get the boys get back to working first!

[magic32]

The significance of a zero count (the absence of sperm) far exceeds anything one could inflict on one's body. This includes ALL drug use/abuse, as well as any possible trauma, short of living in spectral chamber for a few days purposefully exposing oneself to the entire solar spectrum (long, radio, micro, infrared, ultraviolet, X and gamma rays). Though, according to Stan Lee, he might get green eyes and superhuman strength, the power to “flame on” or invisibility, along with a rock, rubber or titanium body.

So "getting the boys back", is far less than synonymous with not producing sperm cells, and is completely immaterial here. In other words, even in complete 'shut down' semen production continues. Your theory suggests, the long cycler could bear sole responsibility for birth control, and this is simply not true. The allusions we often make when taking drugs, getting hit in the crotch, falling on the bike bar, wearing tight underwear are all just that, allusions. Though they can indeed hamper output, they are wholly incapable of complete sperm cessation.

As stated earlier, his problem is not gear related, and he needs medical attention.

M.

[Doc.Sust]

if my count was zero and i wanted kids, i wouldnt consider another cycle anytime soon. have you seen an endocrinologist or a fertility expert?

[kuad]

i have been trying to have another kid (not during cycle) and my doc told be to have my sperm checked. the insurance does not cover it!!!! $375!!!!

[Homer 8]

Thanks a million for all the replys they have been very helpful. ive had two sperm counts done and both were zero. im seeing a specialist at the moment and had a camera down my Japs eye (excuse all the technical terms) that came back clear im due back in 4 weeks.
Magic u seem to be well up on all of this mate.. the bottom line is do u think i should go back on or not... considering im pretty desperate to get back to my original size and strenth..

Thanks Lads

[*Alex*]

Thanks a million for all the replys they have been very helpful. ive had two sperm counts done and both were zero. im seeing a specialist at the moment and had a camera down my Japs eye (excuse all the technical terms) that came back clear im due back in 4 weeks.
Magic u seem to be well up on all of this mate.. the bottom line is do u think i should go back on or not... considering im pretty desperate to get back to my original size and strenth..

Thanks Lads

it only makes sence to wait and see IF you can correct the problem. you have all your life to get HUGE. just wait, goodluck.

[trrz]

I have a related problem
I quit a cycle about 2 months ago. My sperm count was reduced to 10 % of the normal value.
The thing the gynecologist surprised the most was that the mobility of the sperm was almost zero. I will do a count every three weeks. I will keep you informed

[fitguy]

I have a related problem
I quit a cycle about 2 months ago. My sperm count was reduced to 10 % of the normal value.
The thing the gynecologist surprised the most was that the mobility of the sperm was almost zero. I will do a count every three weeks. I will keep you informed

are you taking anything to bring back your sperm count to normal ?

[trrz]

No, the gynecologist wants to do it the natural way. But I doubt his decision. I heard that Clomid can be usefull. The gynecologist says that the effect of clomid is only temporarly. The product is fooling your body

[DDDNTZ]

Whats happening fellas its been a long while since ive been on this just need a little help..
Have been off juice for bout a good 10 months now after getting my sperm count done and it came back at zero... it wasnt even low it was just zero..
Docs dont know wether its from juice or from a trauma injusry to the testicles..

So heres what i need from u. Im looking to go back on but with a course designed that it wont effect anything down below and doing worse damage...
i need to gain lean muscle and strip some fat.
any ideas at all would be great thanks guys

Homer

This a bummer man.