Anybody taking Xanax while on the juice? I was wondering if there are any sides to this? I'm on the Xanax so I don't beat someone down...j/k...just work stress.. Let me know if you have tried this and what happened...or heard of anyone doing so.
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Anybody taking Xanax while on the juice? I was wondering if there are any sides to this? I'm on the Xanax so I don't beat someone down...j/k...just work stress.. Let me know if you have tried this and what happened...or heard of anyone doing so.
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I currently take 1mg to 1.5mg of xanax every night. Helps me sleep cause I'm an insomniac in the worst way. I took it on my last cycle and didn't think it affected anything and I'n currently 6 weeks into a big cycle right now and haven't noticed any sides.
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Im only gonna say this once at 1.5 mg's a night, and a 12 week cycle, you are coming very close to becoming addicited to the stuff , do you take it when you not on a cycle ??Originally Posted by USMCSS
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Might want to find out his entire history with insomnia and the scripts hes on BEFORE you accuse someone of being addicted. People are sometimes put on benzodiazepines for severe insomnia. My girlfriend is on a mild anti-psychotic for insomnia and I'll tell you for a fact its the only thing that can put her to sleep. This guy might have the same problem.
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look i was reading about this the other day it does shut your test level down slightly so it does effect the article was in a AI mag it was about smoking weed while on aas and taking xanax on aas i would say it might effect u slightly just be careful
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Well i'll tell you from personal use benzos are one of the most addictive drugs out there, i dont need a personal history, tell your girlfriend to try to stop taking it and lets see what happens, this is not a mild sleeping pill this is a highly addicitive drug that doctors prescribe way to freely, you girl will have a seziure, and can die from going cold turkey, on a dose as small as .05 in three months of use, ask her to stop taking it and watch how fast she goes into withdrawl, just cause you know one person who use's it dont make quilitified to say sh!t, Im around it all the time, im just tryin to inform people of the dangers of this sh!t, back to the forum..
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god i hate zannies. i cant remember shit after i take them.
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I take Xanax all the time. I love to sleep. It beats liquor. Also taking Anvar,
test, deca, and HGH.
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Agreed! I have severe insomnia. Before I was prescribed Meds I usually slept 15 hrs a week. I was prescribed an anti-psychotic (seroquel). It worked for a few days but then didn't do shit. I'm going to the Dr. tomorrow and try to get Lunesta or Ambien. Sides from anti-psychotics include weight gain and I don't want that since I'm cutting right now, plus they're high risk for giving diabeties..which I don't want. I take Klonopin (a benzo) for Social anxiety and severe panic attacks. Yes, you can become addicted but it's not the end of the world. I've been hooked on worse and have gotten off with my own will. I don't care about being addicted to the klonopins because it sure beats the shit out of walking around being nervous and paranoid in public when I'm around people and having panic attacks. It's a trade I'll make any day. I can't go in public w/o them. It's only a band aid.
You'll be fine with the xanax.
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Believe it or not, you black out from that sh!t, as low as 1 mg..
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When i have spare time i go to my old outpatient, for alcohol and substance abuse, and help them out with some of the therapy groups ( give back a little ) And yes people need benzos for panic disorder, and anxity, its a horrible thing, i went through it, some people cant leave their house, or even drive 1/2 a block, they need it, but to sleep, no fvckin way, thats crazy, ambien is great, it could take years before you could get addicted to it, and no disrespect but would you tell somebody to do herion to sleep ?? Well that will also do the job, dont give advise if you dont know what your talking about, do you know you can detox off heroin in 7 days, alcohol, in 5 days, and benzos can take months or even years, there is this thing called PAWS, POST- ACCUTE- WITHDRAWL - SYMPTOM, THIS MEANS IT TAKES YOUR BRAIN RECPTORS A LONG TIME TO STOP LOOKING FOR THE DRUG.( withdrawl )This happens in heroin addicts to..Dont just give advice cause it works for you...I dont walk around the streets tellin people its ok to do steroids.
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I'll tell ya what, GH makes me sleep like a log. My gf can't even wake me up. She tried shaking me this morning before leaving but I just rolled over and kept sleeping. GH makes me tired in general. Sleep is great for faster recovery and building as we all know.
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Whats in gh that makes you sleep ???
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Your exactly right. I've been through opiate withdrawl (vicoden) 3 times and xanax withdrawl once. I wasn't worth a shit for a year after the xanax. I always thought I was a pretty tough dude and could handle anything that came my way. This turned me into a child. I use benadryl and a valium occasionally for stress and anxiety. I'm not telling anybody to do one thing or another but I will not allow anyone in my family to touch xanax. I wouldn't wish what I went through on anyone.
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Well im glad you got through it, some people are not as lucky even after they kick it they think they have it under control, and start it again ( i did ) it took me right back to where i was when i stopped, but on the negative side valium is also a benzo, the only difference is it has a longer half life, they actully use valium to ween you off xanax and other shorter half life benzo's, but bro be careful with the valium, good luck my friend
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If you bothered to read my post, I said she's on an anti-psychotic, not a benzo, thats where you assumed. I also stated that ambien does not work to put her to sleep, thats why she is STILL on the anti-psychotic (Seroquel). I also never stated that I was qualified to give medical advice, and if you re-read my post, which I think you neglected to read in the first place, I stated you may want to investigate his actual condition before you presume him to be addicted to anything. Just because you were addicted to xanax, doesn't mean everyone was and that it doesn't have a valid medicinal use. Also, because you feel someone should not be taking it for insomnia doesn't mean they shouldn't. Using Xanax to treat insomnia is an off-the label use that doctors do prescribe the medication for. Are you more qualified than a physician to determine wether someone needs a benzodiazepine for sleep?
All the people with M.D.'s after their names prescribing this drug for insomnia must all be crazy then, right? It's a valid off-the label use. I dont know why you feel its your position to dictate to anyone else what their physician says is right for them.
So, if you'll one more time direct yourself to my first post, where I neither advocated or condoned the use of benzo's as a sleep aid, you'll see I merely wanted a more thorough history of the person before calling someone addicted. Just because you dont think people should take benzo's for sleep, doesnt mean that they shouldn't, and doesnt mean that their doctors are wrong, this is merely your OPINION...
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Also, please direct yourself to the following...
http://www.medicinenet.com/alprazolam/article.htm
The last sentence under DRUG NAME AND MECHANISM, and followed by the middle of the third sentence under PRESCRIBED FOR:. There, you will find that prescribing this drug for insomnia is both accepted and validated medicinally. So please, refrain from saying using it as a sleep aid is crazy, as most medical information I can find on the drug would say otherwise.
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I'm not sure but I would suspect a greater and more sustained release of melatonin induced by the GH? Remember GH is produced naturally at higher amounts (compared to a 30+ adult) in our youth until our early-mid 20's for overall growth. I remember sleeping 10-12 hours when I was a teenager. My mom hated it but that's the way God made it.
Man, I went out with my gf last night downtown. I can usually stay out until 5-6AM on the weekend and sleep in the next day. I had to leave at 2AM last night because I was falling asleep in a chair as my gf and her friend (gf) were dancing. I told her that I was going and she could stay because security asked me to not sleep in the chair. She came home with me and it was hard driving home. She couldn't drive cause she was buzzed. I was just tired. Of course I found the engery to reward her for leaving early. Then I rolled over and went out like a log....
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First i never said he was addicted, but could be on his way, thats why i went off and missed the part about the seroquel, and i do feel bad about your girl, but im around doctors and shrinks, and therapist, when i go give a hand at the outpatient, xanax is ment to be an antianxity med NOT a sleeping med, i dont give a fvck what you read, all i hear all day long is how as$ hole doctors hand out meds like its fvckin candy, and its not the young doctors they are up to date its these old fvcks that just grab your money and give you a script, and thats why people are cramming into detoxs and rehabs and to make it worse you can buy it online without a prescribstion, and to see a gradmother in a detox with junkies and criminals is a fvckin sin, because some sh!t head doctor is giving her valium to sleep for the last 30 years, and shes going through a 3 month supply in a week is a sin, there is enough sleeping medication out there today that this should not happen, then the idiot in post nine, says youll be ok with xanax just got me nuts, im glad you did your research but if you want to see reality come with me to a hospital detox and im sure you will have a different outlook, Sorry if i went off the deep end but addiction is a motherfvcker, and i hope your girl gets over her problem...
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No, I actually agree with what you're saying, its just that you put words into my mouth in your previous post, so it kinda pissed me off and I felt compelled to back up what I said with research. I like to go by facts, and then touch on personal experience, but never try to pass off personal experiences as facts. Get that one? lol... Xanax is a horrible drug bro, I agree, but it does have its place in some SEVERE cases of anxiety that inhibit a persons way of life. My girlfriend was addicted to xanax and overdosed on it, she's been to rehab twice (second time for blow). You are not talking to someone who is unfamiliar with addiction, believe me I can relate to what you're going through and the people you are around. I'll tell ya what dude, its not easy having to wonder all the time wether she took something or not. I have a personal hatred for most drugs out there, even prescription ones in most cases. Xanax make you do stupid things, that you dont remember, and can really **** up your life. I agree, that if you can get by sleeping WITH OUT a benzo, then it is best to do so. Seizure is a serious risk associated with the use of benzo's, more so with stopping them cold turkey. Anyways, you should know we're on the same page as far as this topic is concerned bro, I just felt you were being rather crass with me.
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Lots of good conversation going on here. I agree with everyone on some aspects. Xanax is addictive after prolonged use, and at high levels over 4 mg per day...It also depends on the person. I've known many to come off after 2 years @ 1mg per day with no problems. Everyone eventually has problems and Xanax works great. I have only been on for 1 month and will be done in a few days...I can say that my stress has gone. I had numbing off the arms and legs with severe dizzy spells like I was having a heart attack....simple solution....Xanax for stress and presto it's gone! As for a sleep aid...I'd have to say it would work but I would find better things for that. Melatonin 3mg...chew in water and swallow will knock you out. I have a hard time going to sleep b4 3 am, but with this it works with 30 min and has been working on me for a year now.
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Well i am sorry, sometimes i get nuts, and as for your girl i dont know how long shes been sober, but trust comes in time, i'll have four years sober june 1st before that nobody in my family wanted to have anything to do with me, now im the only sain one around, and my major problem was not drugs it was alcohol, and the put me in 19 detoxes 3 rehabs and half my life in jail, and as far as being crass with you its called tough love...I hope your girl gets a handle on her addiction good luck bro...Im really suprised nobody shut this thread down 5 hours ago,,
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And now for you, BE FVCKIN CAREFUL WITH THE XANAX, good luck, thanks and i hope you can get some sleep, i know i never do !!!!
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Its hard for me to relate with her sometimes because I absolutely do not have an addictive personality. I've tried a number of things and have never had a problem with dropping anything cold turkey and not giving it another thought. I just cant understand being controlled by a substance, guess Im too strong willed for that. Oh well, good conversation...
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There are no sides or worries whatsoever. I am actually taking valium, which also has it's uses amongst bodybuilders for it's notable ability to suppress cortisol levels.
As long as you don't get addicted, I think your good to go, but I would prefer valium (diazepam) since it has a much longer half life and IMO has less chances in causing dependancy than xanax.
I use it once a week sometimes as a sleeping aid.
I have also used it on a daily basis years ago without developing addiction. I guess it varies from person to person, and also depends on the persons character.
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What's up with these scare tactics.? You sound like the guys that give steroids a bad rep on tv.
Yes, it's addictive for some people. It depends a lot on a persons character IMO, and how responsible he/she is.
But to say about dying by going cold turkey is going a bit too far, don't u think?
Remember, if you had a bad experience with this drug, don't beleive everyone is in the same boat as you.
Also note the difference between use & abuse!
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i m using diazepam (valium) it makes me slow huhu !
yesterday night i used tramadol (morphine like) it was weird but okay, i was a bit like under amphetamine, i had a bit the nausea and a little anxiety attack.
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They are not scare tactics, its a fact take 1 mg a day for three months, then you can PM me and i'll tell you where you can go to get detoxed, then how to get into a rehab, and there is no documented proof that steroids can kill you , xanax can !!! AND YES GOING COLD TURKEY AFTER 3 OR MONTHS CAN KILL YOU, your body goes into shock, and you can have a seziure and die, and i bet you didnt know that if you a alcoholic, and a very very big drinker, you can also have seiuzures and DIE and it is my bad experience, and the thousands of people ive been around, and its true people are different, so it might take you a month longer or someone else three months longer, but in the end your hooked , try reading the whole thread, try not to tell people there is no difference between use and abuse, one leads to two and so on, im trying to educate, not scare.. By the way you got kids that are on this forum, and are told not to do AS, but do it anyway, we dont need to give them the idea that taking a controled substance is ok, there gonna go out clubbing with a hand full of pills, alcohol, and God only knows what else..Ya wanna do some research, go to benzo.org.uk then get back on and tell me what you think, i wish you all the best, but be careful..And as for valium its also addicitive, but has a half life of 24 hours, but that only means it takes twice as long to get addicted..Read that site i gave you, and i hope you think a little different, Peace brother
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We do it to escape from our problems, its better to feel good for a while than feel like sh!t all day, after bustin my balls all day i would love a drink to take the edge off, get what im saying, for youself try alanon, it does wonders and you will get the answers your looking for...I dont know where your from but here in NY there is one every day ten minutes away from any part of the city, try to keyword or google alanon,, good luck bro
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Dude its an opiate ( just like herion ) oxycontin, vicodin, very addictive, if you like to be on a methadone program, keep doing it..LOLi m using diazepam (valium) it makes me slow huhu !
yesterday night i used tramadol (morphine like) it was weird but okay, i was a bit like under amphetamine, i had a bit the nausea and a little anxiety attack.
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I don't think tramadol is actually an opiate. It mimicks opiate and works on the same receptors but it is not actually an opiate. They came out with tramadol (ultram) as an alternative to opiates and the big selling point was it was not addicting. They were wrong. Tramadol is as addicting if not more than vicodin or any other opiate and the withdrawls mimick benzo wd's and last for months. I've been down that road also. I don't want to sound like anybody who takes any of the meds we have been discussing will get addicted and go through hell. These meds can be used safely short term and should be slowly weaned off when discontinuing. Just be smart and safe.Dude its an opiate ( just like herion ) oxycontin, vicodin, very addictive, if you like to be on a methadone program, keep doing it..LOL
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I don't disagree with anything you said and will read the site. I just felt you were overexagerating. But after thinking carefuly, on the other hand with kids on the board, we should overexagerate.
Thanks
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I just took half the dosing 25mg not 50mg. I will take nothing tonight.
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Xanax is fu*king EVIL!!!!!!!!!!! STay away from that poison!
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When i got on this forum, i asked questions, and did so much research, and even now i dont give to much advice, and always tell someone new what i think than tell them to wait for someone with more experience before they start taking AS.. How many kids come on this forum and ask, a question like Im 18 y/o first cycle 165 pounds and training for 6 months, and this is my cycle week 1 thru 8 60 mg's of d-bol 10 times a day, test enan 300 mg's eod weeks 1 thru 20, 500 mg's deca eod weeks 1 thru 20, and when you tell them they are to young, and that they wont grow any faster than if they dieted right and trained hard, say well thanks but im gonna do it any way, so than to save there as$es we gotta give in and tell them just do a simple cycle of a test 250 mg's twice a week, im just tryin to educate kids and adults, adults even more because we think we got everything under control.. Im just tryin to make sure everybody knows about the dangers of these drugs... Peace guys
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Holy fvcking sh1t! I leave a post, don't check back on it for a bit, and then when I do I find out that I'm a fvcking drug addict! My ass you don't need to know personal history. I take 1.5mg because nothing less phases me. Hell I barely sleep with that amount. I also don't take it EVERY night. Yes I said that but didn't realize others would feed off of it. I actually skip several days at a time and don't take it. It was originally perscribed to me by the VA for post traumatic stress disorder from combat. I go through a few "flashbacks" every now and then. Very rare but they do happen and it's nice to have a pill on hand to relax when an episode occurs. I also wake up from bad dreams all the time. I mean BAD ones. When I take the xanax, I don't have as many. I have a VERY now addictive personality so that is the least of my worries. I've gone a couple weeks at a time without taking the med and have had no problems what so ever. As far as my cycle I'm currently on goes....I'm growing like a motherfvcker. Ya i might be able to get a little better gains if I wasn't on the med, but I also weigh out the facts. Don't take the pill and have a tiny bit better gain, but constantly have nightmares and flip out times or take the pill, still grow just fine, get good sleep, and not go insane. I'll take the second choice.
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BULLSH!T!!! I have been taking it for over a year now, can miss days and even weeks at a time and have no problem. Yes there are those that might not be able to handle it, but that is due to that SPECIFIC persons chemical balance and there ability to to control their own psychosis. You are implying that it is ANYBODY who takes it. I agree everyone should use caution by all means, but don't assume that ALL of us are the same.
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My point is if you take xanax 1.5 every night for 3 or more months you will become addicited, and it has nothing to do with having a strong will, your body, and brain get addicited, there are recptors in yor brain once you fvck them up, no matter how strong of a person you are, you cant stop the withdrawl, Im am so sorry about your situation, and if it works for you good luck, just please be careful, try going to this site, BENZO.ORG.UK Just do a little research on it this way at least your educated on it, i mean im sure you did research on AS before jamming a needle in your as$..Peace brother
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I appreciate your concern and highly respect your point of view. Very commendable that you are looking out for others. However, please note that I did previously state that I can go days even weeks without it and have no problem at all. I'm not "addicted" and by no means in denial. Yes it's a heavy dose but I always have to take heavy doses of anything. My body has the tolerance of an elephant with no matter what I put in it. I also take it under close supervision by VA doctors. They don't hand out meds easy by any means. Hell, getting ibuprofen from those guys is like pulling teeth. I have to see a doc every month about it. Since the Iraq war has started, the military and VA have done ALOT of research and upgrading on their means of handling PTSD. It's a pretty damn good one too. I too have highly educated myself on the meds that I take. I don't just take whatever Joe Blow tells me to.
Put it this way, as long as I continue to grow, function just fine everyday, and don't flip out and fill my g-friend with bullet holes in the middle of the night, then I will stick to my current routine.
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Ok so your not taking it every night ?? If so great then you should not have a problem, and i rather see you put holes in our enemys, than your girl, thanks for supporting our country, all you guys are great keep up the good work and all the best to you..Be safe..I appreciate your concern and highly respect your point of view. Very commendable that you are looking out for others. However, please note that I did previously state that I can go days even weeks without it and have no problem at all. I'm not "addicted" and by no means in denial. Yes it's a heavy dose but I always have to take heavy doses of anything. My body has the tolerance of an elephant with no matter what I put in it. I also take it under close supervision by VA doctors. They don't hand out meds easy by any means. Hell, getting ibuprofen from those guys is like pulling teeth. I have to see a doc every month about it. Since the Iraq war has started, the military and VA have done ALOT of research and upgrading on their means of handling PTSD. It's a pretty damn good one too. I too have highly educated myself on the meds that I take. I don't just take whatever Joe Blow tells me to.
Put it this way, as long as I continue to grow, function just fine everyday, and don't flip out and fill my g-friend with bullet holes in the middle of the night, then I will stick to my current routine.
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